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Gregski 04-21-2015 09:30 PM

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and some close ups of that bad boy

oh man and that perfect speaker wire, only fits one way, dummy proof, perfect polarity every time, I just want to hug that GM engineer, thank you

Gregski 04-21-2015 09:33 PM

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stop teasing us Greg and shows us that darn radio man

hey watch your tone (get it, LOL... tone)

Gregski 04-21-2015 09:35 PM

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you all know how much I love anatomy shots, so here it is the complete mind blowing low fidelity "entertainment" system circa 1974

I swear I heard the radio come on for a second when I tested it at the battery and play ".... another one bites the dust... another one bites the dust!"

Gregski 04-21-2015 09:39 PM

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ok, so it's out and it's not working, now what?

greg64 04-21-2015 10:29 PM

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Greg, I'm not sure how to advise you. Electrical troubleshooting is a different kettle of fish than mechanical troubleshooting. It might just be a connection problem, or a bad solder joint, but there's lots of other possibilities.

A while back, I came across a retired guy on eBay who fixes and sells radios like yours. Maybe that's something to consider. Here's one of his ads. Upgrade time?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Working-1980...e3fb3c&vxp=mtr

68Timber 04-21-2015 10:31 PM

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Are you repairing the original AM radio? I'm diggin that idea, and hearing it do some monaural jam on Exile through a new 4x10.:metal:

enaberif 04-21-2015 10:37 PM

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LOL that stereo is filthy! I can't say if its stock to my truck or not but my truck (1974) has a AM/FM/Tape deck in it.

Titomars 04-21-2015 10:43 PM

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Man, me thinks Gregski's truck was once an off roader by the layer of dust in that radio. That amount of dust can kill radios. My Jeep goes through stereos about once every 2 years. I personally would look for something in an upgrade.

greg64 04-21-2015 10:44 PM

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Greg, if you do get the radio working again, I saw a neat adapter a while back that you insert into the antenna wire. This allows any modern source to be hooked up, and it plays through the stock radio. Pretty neat.

Titomars 04-21-2015 10:58 PM

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I put one of these in my 77. I was not going to cut my perfect unaltered dash.

http://www.classicindustries.com/pro...ts/te605b.html

I used this speaker setup for the front.

http://www.classicindustries.com/pro...rts/s5013.html

I already had a very nice set of 6X9's for behind the seats.

Gregski 04-21-2015 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by greg64 (Post 7143271)
A while back, I came across a retired guy on eBay who fixes and sells radios like yours. Maybe that's something to consider. Here's one of his ads. Upgrade time?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Working-1980...e3fb3c&vxp=mtr

Thank you so much for the link I added his auction to my Watch List, I love supporting guys like that (if I can)

greg64 04-21-2015 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Gregski (Post 7143331)
Thank you so much for the link I added his auction to my Watch List, I love supporting guys like that (if I can)

No problem. The fellow obviously knows what he is doing. Maybe you could ship your radio to him for repair? Also, there are factory Delco manuals for repairing these radios out there, if you want to have a go yourself.

Gregski 04-22-2015 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by enaberif (Post 7143287)
I can't say if its stock to my truck or not but my truck (1974) has a AM/FM/Tape deck in it.

Whoa, am, FM, and Cassette? now you're just rubbin' it in, next thing you're gonna tell me is you have twice the amount of speakers as I do, as if that's somehow possible, why would anyone need more than one speaker, LOL, jk

enaberif 04-22-2015 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Gregski (Post 7143664)
Whoa, am, FM, and Cassette? now you're just rubbin' it in, next thing you're gonna tell me is you have twice the amount of speakers as I do, as if that's somehow possible, why would anyone need more than one speaker, LOL, jk

Nope! Single speaker lol. But I also have no antenna :lol:

hatzie 04-22-2015 11:21 AM

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That's probably the U63 Delco 41APB1 radio GM used in base trucks and some of the cars in '74.
Radio service manuals for the 1970's & 1980's radios are very hard to come by. This was right on the edge of the truly throw-away radios. The guys that did this kind of service work tend to hang onto their paper manuals and keep them "in the family" of radio enthusiasts. It's almost blasphemy to let this information outside the community.
Repair of even non working units is not that difficult but re-aligning the receiver coils, if they need it, is an art and not that easy without some guidance.
That being said they do show up with more regularity on Fleabay than they used to... Here's a SAMS Photofact manual for the 1974 AM/FM radios. It may be close enough if you're not frightened of older electronics. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1974-1975-CH...28488685&rt=nc
EDIT: I found a 1974 Delco all GM models radio manual and bought it. I'll scan it and post it up in the manuals thread. Probably after the end of the month. If you want the paper original once I'm done we can make a deal. I've been on the lookout for these for some time and this one popped up at a reasonably inexpensive shipped price. Usually the seller seems to think they're printed with platinum ink on gold plates.

greg64 04-22-2015 02:13 PM

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Cool stuff, Hatzie. I bought the repair manual for my 64 off eBay. I just like this stuff.

hatzie 04-22-2015 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by greg64 (Post 7143985)
Cool stuff, Hatzie. I bought the repair manual for my 64 off eBay. I just like this stuff.

The 50's and 60's manuals seem to be easier to find. If you're looking for a maddening exercise in futility try to find very late 80's and 90's GM automobile & truck radio schematics.

greg64 04-22-2015 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by hatzie (Post 7143993)
The 50's and 60's manuals seem to be easier to find. If you're looking for a maddening exercise in futility try to find very late 80's and 90's GM automobile & truck radio schematics.

I can believe that. By the 90s, especially, I wouldn't think too many radios would be repaired. Not like the 50s / 60s.

MannyDantyla 04-22-2015 04:18 PM

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I've enjoyed reading this thread and have learned A LOT! from Greg and everyone who has helped him.

In fact! I knew that I would use this thread as a reference for my own build. And I thought that I should catalog the location within this huge thread of all the topics, so that I could look them up later to see how to fix things.

And, I figured, I might was well share :) I know it's outrageous, but here it is:

air cleaner: 7, 11, 43
blower motor: 4, 5, 7
body work: 13, 47-52
brakes: 38, 39, 40, 44, 45, 47, 55, 58
bumpers: 1
carb: 5, 17, 18, 19, 46
clutch: 27, 28
clutch fork: 34
clutch linkage: 30, 47
clutch pedal: 29, 30, 31
dipstick: 6
distributor: 12, 14, 20
door panels: 20, 21, 37
drive shaft: 30, 31
exhaust: 1, 8
fan shroud: 23, 24
flywheel: 27
frame: 5, 61
freeze plugs: 6, 7, 8
fuel problem: 43, 44, 45, 46
gauges: 2
gas tank: 12, 13
headers: 8, 11
headlights: 56
ignition: 53, 54
inner fender: 4
intake manifold: 14, 15, 18, 19, 46, 50
locks: 21
kick panels: 21, 22, 23
main seal: 27, 28
oil pan: 6, 27
oil pump: 6
power steering: 58, 59, 60, 61
radiator: 7
reverse light: 57
speedometer cable: 34, 38, 39, 41
starter: 7
steering column: 54, 58
stereo: 63
tachometer: 41
thermostat: 14, 18
transmission: 26, 31, 33, 34
transmission controlled spark system: 6, 10
turn signals: 58
u-joints: 35, 36
valvues: 48
windows: 38
window seals: 37

Gregski 04-22-2015 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MannyDantyla (Post 7144181)
And I thought that I should catalog the location within this huge thread of all the topics, so that I could look them up later to see how to fix things.

air cleaner: 7, 11, 43
blower motor: 4, 5, 7
body work: 13, 47-52
brakes: 38, 39, 40, 44, 45, 47, 55, 58
bumpers: 1
carb: 5, 17, 18, 19, 46
clutch: 27, 28
clutch fork: 34
clutch linkage: 30, 47
clutch pedal: 29, 30, 31
dipstick: 6
distributor: 12, 14, 20
door panels: 20, 21, 37
drive shaft: 30, 31
exhaust: 1, 8
fan shroud: 23, 24
flywheel: 27
frame: 5, 61
freeze plugs: 6, 7, 8
fuel problem: 43, 44, 45, 46
gauges: 2
gas tank: 12, 13
headers: 8, 11
headlights: 56
ignition: 53, 54
inner fender: 4
intake manifold: 14, 15, 18, 19, 46, 50
locks: 21
kick panels: 21, 22, 23
main seal: 27, 28
oil pan: 6, 27
oil pump: 6
power steering: 58, 59, 60, 61
radiator: 7
reverse light: 57
speedometer cable: 34, 38, 39, 41
starter: 7
steering column: 54, 58
stereo: 63
tachometer: 41
thermostat: 14, 18
transmission: 26, 31, 33, 34
transmission controlled spark system: 6, 10
turn signals: 58
u-joints: 35, 36
valvues: 48
windows: 38
window seals: 37

Goodness, The Greg did all that in 8 months!

SUBSCRIBED!

Gregski 04-22-2015 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by hatzie (Post 7143768)
I found a 1974 Delco all GM models radio manual and bought it. I'll scan it and post it up in the manuals thread.

You are Da Man when it comes to research and Manuals bar none, a pillar of this community, thank you so much for sharing all that you know / have

gratitude
G

rusty76 04-22-2015 04:40 PM

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My stock radio still worked and did so for many years. Then I retired it but left it in the stock location. I didn't want to cut up my dash so I bought one of those Highliners years ago and installed an aftermarket stereo. Best thing I did for that truck really. One of the few mods I ever did to my truck that made a real difference. That and the CB radio. Ten four.

greg64 04-22-2015 08:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gregski (Post 7144186)
Goodness, The Greg did all that in 8 months!

SUBSCRIBED!

LOL!!

Great idea, Manny. It seems like many guys are referring to this thread for assistance.

Chaplain 04-22-2015 10:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MannyDantyla (Post 7144181)
I've enjoyed reading this thread and have learned A LOT! from Greg and everyone who has helped him.

In fact! I knew that I would use this thread as a reference for my own build. And I thought that I should catalog the location within this huge thread of all the topics, so that I could look them up later to see how to fix things.

And, I figured, I might was well share :) I know it's outrageous, but here it is:

air cleaner: 7, 11, 43
blower motor: 4, 5, 7
body work: 13, 47-52
brakes: 38, 39, 40, 44, 45, 47, 55, 58
bumpers: 1
carb: 5, 17, 18, 19, 46
clutch: 27, 28
clutch fork: 34
clutch linkage: 30, 47
clutch pedal: 29, 30, 31
dipstick: 6
distributor: 12, 14, 20
door panels: 20, 21, 37
drive shaft: 30, 31
exhaust: 1, 8
fan shroud: 23, 24
flywheel: 27
frame: 5, 61
freeze plugs: 6, 7, 8
fuel problem: 43, 44, 45, 46
gauges: 2
gas tank: 12, 13
headers: 8, 11
headlights: 56
ignition: 53, 54
inner fender: 4
intake manifold: 14, 15, 18, 19, 46, 50
locks: 21
kick panels: 21, 22, 23
main seal: 27, 28
oil pan: 6, 27
oil pump: 6
power steering: 58, 59, 60, 61
radiator: 7
reverse light: 57
speedometer cable: 34, 38, 39, 41
starter: 7
steering column: 54, 58
stereo: 63
tachometer: 41
thermostat: 14, 18
transmission: 26, 31, 33, 34
transmission controlled spark system: 6, 10
turn signals: 58
u-joints: 35, 36
valvues: 48
windows: 38
window seals: 37

.

On top of all Gregski's work this guy creates an index. Incredible...

Thanks.

MannyDantyla 04-23-2015 01:08 PM

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Dude, you could write a new service manual with all the info in this thread.

Gregski 04-23-2015 05:08 PM

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free admission at the local junk yard and 15% off, if you guys have one of these Pick N Pulls in your area (and have a free Rewards membership) why not throw some tools in a bucket and head out there and see what they got, that's where I'll be

Gregski 04-23-2015 05:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MannyDantyla (Post 7145264)
Dude, you could write a new service manual with all the info in this thread.

Thank you Manny and thank you for your Catalog, I know I'll sure use it, I already have, LOL

Gregski 04-23-2015 07:24 PM

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ok, so let me walk you through what we found at the Pick N Pull

fist we found a rear view mirror (cost $6 bucks), now I wasn't really looking for one of these, but it was just laying there on the floor of this '73 pick up truck already removed, so I grabbed it

I like to document where my spare bits came from

Gregski 04-23-2015 07:26 PM

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as you can see here, my old one has seen better days

Gregski 04-23-2015 07:32 PM

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next I found this lens for the gauge cluster in this '81 GMC - $13 bucks and a special thanks to the person who removed it without breaking it

Gregski 04-23-2015 07:36 PM

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ok so lets take a look at the gauge lens situation before and after, now those of you with square bodies know that they lenses tend to yellow kinda like these plastic headlights do these days

Side Note: by the way the Greg played the game of trying to buff out discolored plastic headlights before on multiple occasions and he wasn't going to waste time and money on trying it on the this lens as its hours with the drill vs 41 years of mother nature, we don't stand a chance fellers

Gregski 04-23-2015 07:39 PM

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so lets compare the old to the new lens, by the way a brand new replacement lens from LMC truck will run you about $50 bucks

Gregski 04-23-2015 07:45 PM

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and here's what the new(er) lens looks like on the truck

it's not perfect, but it's an improvement, when I have the moneys I may replace it for a new one, or go with different gauges all together, stay tuned

Now I can clearly tell that my Ammeter and Fuel Gauge don't work!!! hee hee

Gregski 04-23-2015 07:54 PM

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as my friend used to say, even a blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes, well in this case the squirrel being me, and the nut being two nuts, or two speakers

I was looking for radios all day when low and behold I look inside of this green (pronounced "gorgeous") '86 and atop of it's dash are two of these speakers, properly removed, in excellent condition, just sitting there starring at me saying well pick us up man and put us in that there bucket

... and so I did...

Gregski 04-23-2015 07:58 PM

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now I am going to have to do some homework to figure out where one can install two such fine speakers in the cab of said truck, maybe one of youz can learn me, cause mine only had one speaker atop of the dash, do they go inside some fancy bulging door panels or do they live behind the bench seat in there them corners

here are the two purdy new ones and my old one

Gregski 04-23-2015 07:59 PM

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... mirror, lens, speakers, you are killing us Smallz, did you find a replacement radio or not ???

Gregski 04-23-2015 08:04 PM

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then I came up on a magnificent '77 pickup truck, I swung the door open, and there she was, the AUDIOVOX 8 Track Car Stereo Tape Player with AM/FM Stereo Radio

FCC DATA MODEL NO C-977B

"Receiver certificated for compliance with FCC Rules Part 15" yeah baby, what ever that means, LOL

and yes I have the knobs, well most of them

Gregski 04-23-2015 08:08 PM

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HATZIE you are on the clock to find us a manual for this baby... shall we say you have 48 hours, LOL

flashed 04-23-2015 08:15 PM

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What is a fair price to pay for a GM radio (AM/FM) from a 74 truck ? I know where one is in a yard but its a ways off (60 miles each way) and I have no way of knowing if it works .They were high on everything else so I didnt ask but I would like to have it if I get back that way.

y5mgisi 04-23-2015 08:34 PM

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Looks like a good junk yard!


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