How much longer will we have Gasoline for Our
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old cars and trucks that we want to keep?
If the United States wanted to move to a fully electric fleet by 2050 — to meet the Presidents goal of net zero emissions — then sales of gasoline-powered vehicles would likely have to end altogether by around 2035 If this comes to be ..what will my kids use to run my old car or truck handed down to them ? Attachment 2208441 |
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I keep hoping saner heads will eventually prevail.
If not, there will always be the black market from the third world... |
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Better start building power generating facilities of some kind.
The power grid won’t support more electric vehicles. So then you are trading vehicle emissions for power plant emissions, unless you build nuclear plants. Then comes the whole issue of what to do with all these batteries when the come to the end of their life? California is now facing issue of what to do with end of life solar panels that can’t go in land fills because they will contaminate the soil. There needs to be a little more “forward thinking” in this country. |
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Fuel will still be around more than likely, marine, farming, & aircraft to name a few will keep the need present.
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We've (I've) gone through this before with the smog laws. They seemed to be designed to get you into newer cars. Kind of the same thing.
Now those newer cars aren't so new anymore and failing smog and the older ones are exempt. At least in California. I don't know about other states. Going back 25??years ago. I had a 71 Duster 340 it was labeled as a "Gross Polluter :eek:' and I had to jump through all kinds of hoops and red tape and spend money to get it registered. Today it's exempt. No smog required. If I remember correctly which I probably don't. SEMA had a big campaign against the smog Nazi's. I don't know if that helped lifting the restrictions that were being proposed. But it couldn't have hurt. I really don't see "Big Oil' taking this lying down and they have the money to fight back. Side note. I saw a guy in a 2022 Tesla yesterday. It had a "For Sale' sign in the window. That honeymoon didn't last long. |
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Gas will find a way to stick around as long as the oil companies' can make enough $$$ to lobby for it.
Short of that... A movement to Dylithium crystals. :) |
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If not gasoline, we will figure something else out.
If I was to look really far ahead, I see us getting away from the go all electric car idea to focus that resource on what already relies on it, while continuing to tap into better efficiency and improving the alternate cleaner sources. The answer for vehicles is we need to come up with something other than gasoline to power our internal combustion engines that doesn't produce the emissions. It's all possible. |
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A few years from now we'll be on here talking about lining our gas tanks and tuning our Quadrajets for E85. I'll be asking do I bother to mess with it or just get a fresh new plastic Quadrajet made for E85 from National Carburetors? :-)
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More then 100 years after the auto became pretty much the way to get around, there are still valid use cases for horses and such. Plus more heritage type events featuring 4 legged mounts. Even if electric vehicles are the future, there will be uses for which a fossil fueled vehicle is still the best fit. Agriculture will probably be one of the long time hold outs. Farmers tend to need their equipment to work NOW due to weather concerns. A lot of farms don't have heavy duty electrical service needed to handle the really large battery packs those massive tractors and combines would need if they were EV.
Gas and diesel will eventually become like leaded aviation gas is today. A special product available at a limited number of outlets. |
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I just ordered my Mr. Fusion from backtothefuture.com.
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Has anyone seen any gas stations close due to lack of demand?
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Gas will be available. The electric revolution will go away, just as it did in the past. Pushing the old inefficient and costly solar and wind technology will just make it go away sooner. 20 years ago I was removing heat pumps here when gas was available. Houses had a 75% increase in electric cost in winter with them. They are no more efficient now. If we have people who do not have investments riding on the change in charge. It will go away even quicker. All electric clean energy is a pipe dream.
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A lot of businesses are like that. I used to have to make an appointment at my mechanics garage and there was nowhere to park. Now I just get right in. Plenty of parking. My dog groomer called it quits. That was another place that was busy. Now it's closed. Small business is getting hit and hit hard by this inflation. People are hanging on to their money. Which equals empty parking spaces. I was talking with the guy that owns the little market on the corner. He was telling me that his electric bill was $4900 a month. :eek: I was the only customer in the market at the time. I thought "how long can he keep that up? It's tough to see the people that you have grown to know and like either hanging by a thread or throwing in the towel. |
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Anyone who understands electrolysis knows that this doesn't work. If it did, we'd have it in our cars. I read the first link to where the author's foil hat became evident when he started blaming the Jesuits. I stopped there. Conspiracy theories are a dime a dozen. This is one of them.
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EV cars were never meant to be the solution just part of the equation. Gas or more to the point oil is going to be around for a long time. So many products are derived from oil. Same with solar, wind and water energy will be around a long time as well. Technology marches on as it should, like nuclear fusion might be the energy boost the world needs. Clean energy is not a bad thing just like oil and gas just needs to become more efficient. The one source that is more valuable then oil is water and that has me worried.
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[QUOTE=Side note. I saw a guy in a 2022 Tesla yesterday. It had a "For Sale' sign in the window. That honeymoon didn't last long.[/QUOTE]
The best method to make your Tesla worth more is to drive it off the lot. Yes, he will get more than he paid for it. Cheers |
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Oil isn’t going anywhere. This stupid utopian dream of abolishing it for EV’s isn’t going to pan out the way those who are cramming it down our throats want it too.
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