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Old 11-05-2015, 10:51 PM   #26
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Re: Best starter heat shield

old topic sorry. My starter in my 64 c10 is giving out. Its a v8 305 from an 80 chevy. Would that 98 tahoe starter work in mine? I found this one on rock auto.
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/more...nid=503&jpid=8
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Old 11-06-2015, 08:24 AM   #27
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Re: Best starter heat shield

100% agree, I love those mini starters.
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Old 11-06-2015, 08:58 AM   #28
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Re: Best starter heat shield

I wish I would have known about this when I bought my last starter! I haven't had any problems, but I do have headers and the starter is kind of close.
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Old 11-07-2015, 01:43 PM   #29
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Re: Best starter heat shield

So happy with my new starter. Thanks for the heads up. I just took my old one to the parts store and asked to replace it with a mini and they matched one and bam Didnt even realize it was a delco remy till i got home. I paid more though $171. Found same one this moring for only $60 plus shipping. here is mine and a link to a cheaper one but same parts number. This is in my 64 c10 with an 80-83 chevy v8 305.http://www.carid.com/quality-built/r...pn-6449ms.html
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Old 11-08-2015, 10:51 AM   #30
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Re: Best starter heat shield

I had hot start issues on my old blazer to the point I hated to drive it anywhere. I had replaced all the cables with larger cables, put a ford solenoid on the fender, replaced starter, checked timing, and tried a heat shield. Still slow starting when hot.

Finally I put one of the tahoe starters on this spring and it cranks like crazy. Drove it more this summer than I had in the last 10 years, and it always started fast. I should have done this years ago.

The small starters have permanent magnets instead of wound coils on the outside (stator) and a planetary gear reduction, (some places call them pmgr starters) so they generate more torque while pulling less amperage.

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Old 11-08-2015, 12:06 PM   #31
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I had hot start issues on my old blazer to the point I hated to drive it anywhere. I had replaced all the cables with larger cables, put a ford solenoid on the fender, replaced starter, checked timing, and tried a heat shield. Still slow starting when hot.

Finally I put one of the tahoe starters on this spring and it cranks like crazy. Drove it more this summer than I had in the last 10 years, and it always started fast. I should have done this years ago.

The small starters have permanent magnets instead of wound coils on the outside (stator) and a planetary gear reduction, (some places call them pmgr starters) so they generate more torque while pulling less amperage.

Goog luck, Rg
I was in the same place with one of my trucks, tried all the same things you did, and nothing helped. Bought one of those little starters as my last try, and no more problems. But, out of many Chevrolet V8s I've had, that was the only one I had trouble with. All the others had big starters on them.
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Old 11-08-2015, 12:22 PM   #32
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Did you have headers? I'm pretty sure the headers caused all the problems I had.

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Old 11-08-2015, 12:32 PM   #33
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Re: Best starter heat shield

It has some shorty headers on it, they don't wrap around the starter, so I don't think they would add as much heat as long tubes.
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Old 11-08-2015, 02:23 PM   #34
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Re: Best starter heat shield

I want to run some ram horn manifolds and this will definitely help with clearance... I just got a factory replacement from the local parts store. I need to see if they'll exchange it for me...
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Old 12-23-2015, 07:25 PM   #35
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Re: Best starter heat shield

Hi....question....I upgraded to the GM mini starter per the above discussion....did anyone have issues with the starter bolt lengths?....on the mini stater I only have a few threads showing...and not enough to catch the threads on the block...

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Old 12-23-2015, 09:59 PM   #36
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Re: Best starter heat shield

Dan, now that you mention it I remember I bought new bolts at Autozone due to the same issue. They had 2 different length bolts in the "HELP" section.

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Old 12-24-2015, 01:33 AM   #37
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Just to throw out a slightly opposing viewpoint. I had a starter heat problem on an old 72, a cheap foil/kevlar heat shield wrap fixed the problem.
on my 66 GTO which had bad heat soak I used header heat wrap on the starter and it worked like a charm. Yours looks easier though.
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Old 12-28-2015, 05:00 AM   #38
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Re: Best starter heat shield

Correct bolts for the OE mini starter.
GM part number 12338064 which is 3/8-16 at 4.33 in length.

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Old 12-29-2015, 09:50 AM   #39
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So these old engines dont tear up that 98 starter? When I first bought my 86 camaro it had a bad starter gear and flywheel. I had my stepdad pick up the new parts and he got them for an 86 because thats what year the car was. The engine was a early 70s 350. After about a week it had ruined the starter gear again. Got another starter and tryed playing with shims. A few days later needed another flexplate and starter. Put it backtogether with no shims. Lasted about a month and started grinding again. Starter gear was worn out again with some wear on flexplate also. Took the starter back and decided to see if we could figure out what was going on. Thats when we realized the starter was for an 86. Had the parts guy look up a starter for a 70 camaro. The starter looked exactly the same but had a different part number. I bought that starter and bolted it on and its been on there for the last 10 years.
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Old 06-05-2021, 11:44 PM   #40
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So these old engines dont tear up that 98 starter? When I first bought my 86 camaro it had a bad starter gear and flywheel. I had my stepdad pick up the new parts and he got them for an 86 because thats what year the car was. The engine was a early 70s 350. After about a week it had ruined the starter gear again. Got another starter and tryed playing with shims. A few days later needed another flexplate and starter. Put it backtogether with no shims. Lasted about a month and started grinding again. Starter gear was worn out again with some wear on flexplate also. Took the starter back and decided to see if we could figure out what was going on. Thats when we realized the starter was for an 86. Had the parts guy look up a starter for a 70 camaro. The starter looked exactly the same but had a different part number. I bought that starter and bolted it on and its been on there for the last 10 years.
Well, this is a late answer but mines been there for 6 years with no problems.

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Old 06-07-2021, 09:34 AM   #41
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Re: Best starter heat shield

I got one of those 98 tahoe starters... and, its still in the box in the garage, put it in, checked pinion extension, and it only engages about 1/8" of the flywheel. Original starter a generous 1/4" of engagement with the flywheel.
So those of you who are running the tahoe starter, did you manually extend the pinion gear and check how much of your flywheel is being engaged? How much did you observe?
And yes, that little washer retainer at the end of the nose is properly seated.
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