The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > Info Center > FAQ Truck Tech > Suspension, Steering and Brakes

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-25-2004, 12:39 AM   #1
2wdBlazer
The Blazer King
 
2wdBlazer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Valrico, Fl (Tampa)
Posts: 1,213
Borgeson Steering U-Joint Review.



Bought the U-joint with Vibration Dampner ($70). What a difference. My steering is much tighter and any vibration from the 38's is gone. THis is a must have for lifted trucks. The stock joint on the column side was worn out I think mainly due to the 3 inch body lift i'm running. No pics of the install but I can tell you how easy it was.

1. Remove old Shaft. (One bolt at the box and on the column.)
2. Hack the old upper joint off with a hacksaw.
3. Heat up the shaft with a torch (Plastic inserts will melt and it makes the shaft collapable.
4. Shaft will have to be hacked down a little more because it doesn't cpllapse inside too far.
5. Install U-joint on shaft. Size is 3/4 inch 36 spline x 3/4 inch DD.
6. Drill and pin the shaft when desired length is chosen.
7. Re-install.

Great product.
__________________
72 2wd Blazer. Its the superbichinest, megacoolinest, superflowinest.
2wdBlazer is offline  
Old 04-27-2004, 10:11 PM   #2
2wdBlazer
The Blazer King
 
2wdBlazer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Valrico, Fl (Tampa)
Posts: 1,213
Quote:
Originally posted by bouncytruck
I'd like to see pics too. Is the part an off the shelf part. I know you were looking for measurements for a while.
Yeah, off the shelf. Just ask for a 3/4 inch 36 spline (column side) x 3/4 inch DD (Steering box side). They have to know this for mounting the vibration dampner. They sell with and without the dampner but do your self a favor and get it. I am talking ZERO shaking with huge tires.
__________________
72 2wd Blazer. Its the superbichinest, megacoolinest, superflowinest.
2wdBlazer is offline  
Old 04-28-2004, 01:49 PM   #3
2wdBlazer
The Blazer King
 
2wdBlazer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Valrico, Fl (Tampa)
Posts: 1,213
Quote:
Originally posted by IoWnZa
I wonder if they also work well for Stock/Mild lift applications. I don't run a Lift on my Blazer, and have 32's. I want something to remove some of the Vibration, there isn't much, but it's still there.
Yeah. You could do it.
__________________
72 2wd Blazer. Its the superbichinest, megacoolinest, superflowinest.
2wdBlazer is offline  
Old 04-29-2004, 08:38 AM   #4
2wdBlazer
The Blazer King
 
2wdBlazer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Valrico, Fl (Tampa)
Posts: 1,213
Quote:
Originally posted by 454_72_4X4
Does this just replace the upper U-joint, (column end)?

Just another suggestion on the subject. I used a shaft, (intermediate?), out of an Astro van on my S-10. They have U-joints on both ends and no rag joint. (Had to stretch it a little!)
I don't know if it would work on the older trucks though.
Yes. Replaces the Cloumn end Rag Joint.

The stock shaft is fine to use, It is collapsable and the steering box end already uses a U-joint.
__________________
72 2wd Blazer. Its the superbichinest, megacoolinest, superflowinest.
2wdBlazer is offline  
Old 06-07-2004, 06:17 PM   #5
2wdBlazer
The Blazer King
 
2wdBlazer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Valrico, Fl (Tampa)
Posts: 1,213
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yukon Jack
Could you get a pic of it installed?

Here. Finally got a Digicam.
Attached Images
 
__________________
72 2wd Blazer. Its the superbichinest, megacoolinest, superflowinest.
2wdBlazer is offline  
Old 06-08-2004, 10:51 AM   #6
2wdBlazer
The Blazer King
 
2wdBlazer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Valrico, Fl (Tampa)
Posts: 1,213
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yukon Jack
Thanks for the pic. Looks great. Does it mount to the steering box the same way - using the rubber thingie (highly techinical term, eh?).

Rubber thingy? Column end mounts directly to column end with splines. Steering box side just bolts to the Double D end of the U-joint. Steering shaft was shortened for this. No rubber thingies.
__________________
72 2wd Blazer. Its the superbichinest, megacoolinest, superflowinest.
2wdBlazer is offline  
Old 06-08-2004, 12:26 PM   #7
2wdBlazer
The Blazer King
 
2wdBlazer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Valrico, Fl (Tampa)
Posts: 1,213
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yukon Jack
Sounds great. If you don't mind, when you get a chance, shoot a picture of the connection at the gear box.
Will do. The gear box has it's own stock u-joint though. Nothing special.
__________________
72 2wd Blazer. Its the superbichinest, megacoolinest, superflowinest.
2wdBlazer is offline  
Old 06-08-2004, 01:50 PM   #8
WHSmith
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Ft. Walton Beach, FL
Posts: 35
A lot of the trucks have the rag joint on the steering box end of the shaft. I went with Borgeson parts and put their vibration reducer by the steering box and one of their u-joints at the column end of the shaft. The shaft in the box is a 3/4 x 30 spline and it's simple to remove the rag setup and replace it with the new hardware.
__________________
WHSmith
WHSmith is offline  
Old 05-09-2005, 10:58 AM   #9
Yukon Jack
Post Whore
 
Yukon Jack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Rose Hill, KS, USA
Posts: 12,683
Where did you buy the vibration dampner?
__________________
1970 Blazer with a 400 sbc and 4" lift
1980 Pontiac Trans Am, 455 Oldsmobile
2012 Kawasaki Concours 14
Yukon Jack is offline  
Old 05-09-2005, 02:43 PM   #10
2wdBlazer
The Blazer King
 
2wdBlazer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Valrico, Fl (Tampa)
Posts: 1,213
www.borgeson.com of course!!!
__________________
72 2wd Blazer. Its the superbichinest, megacoolinest, superflowinest.
2wdBlazer is offline  
Old 06-02-2006, 02:22 PM   #11
orange72blazer
Registered User
 
orange72blazer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: West Michigan
Posts: 447
Re: Borgeson Steering U-Joint Review.

I just got done doing this to my 72 blazer, I went with the standard 13/16-36 spline u-joint at the steering box to replace the rag joint and left the joint at the column stock for now. This worked very well and I dont have any binding like I did before or any more vibration than I did with the rag joint. You can get these joints from Jegs or Summit.
__________________
1972 Chevy Blazer
1997 GMC Sierra
2009 Chevy Tahoe
orange72blazer is offline  
Old 08-24-2006, 04:26 PM   #12
Yukon Jack
Post Whore
 
Yukon Jack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Rose Hill, KS, USA
Posts: 12,683
Re: Borgeson Steering U-Joint Review.

After my rag joint ripped I ended up adding a Borgeson U-joint at the steering box and I added a Borgeson telescopic shaft (1" DD x 3/4" DD) to my 69 K20. I had previously added a Borgeson U-joint at the steering column.

Here is a pic of the u-joint which is 3/4" x 30 spline and 1" DD to fit the power steering box I'm using which is from about a 1978 Chevy 4x4.



and a pic of it at the steering column - the steering column is not secured yet so ignore the block of wood that has the column wedged in place. That U-joint is 3/4" x 36 spline and 3/4" DD.



The telescopic shaft ended up being about 11 1/2" long but I'm using a van tilt column.
__________________
1970 Blazer with a 400 sbc and 4" lift
1980 Pontiac Trans Am, 455 Oldsmobile
2012 Kawasaki Concours 14

Last edited by augie; 04-09-2011 at 11:30 PM.
Yukon Jack is offline  
Old 08-24-2006, 05:54 PM   #13
2wdBlazer
The Blazer King
 
2wdBlazer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Valrico, Fl (Tampa)
Posts: 1,213
Re: Borgeson Steering U-Joint Review.

Why use the borgeson shaft when ours can become collapseable?
__________________
72 2wd Blazer. Its the superbichinest, megacoolinest, superflowinest.
2wdBlazer is offline  
Old 08-25-2006, 11:18 AM   #14
Yukon Jack
Post Whore
 
Yukon Jack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Rose Hill, KS, USA
Posts: 12,683
Re: Borgeson Steering U-Joint Review.

The lower u-joint is 1" DD for the steering shaft. It did not appear that I could cut off enough of the stock shaft to get to the DD area. The first few inches of the stock shaft at the rag joint end are round then it tapers to DD.
__________________
1970 Blazer with a 400 sbc and 4" lift
1980 Pontiac Trans Am, 455 Oldsmobile
2012 Kawasaki Concours 14
Yukon Jack is offline  
Old 01-29-2007, 02:19 AM   #15
1969 GMC
Registered User
 
1969 GMC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: The Rubber City
Posts: 5,498
Re: Borgeson Steering U-Joint Review.

sorry to drag this one up from the dead, but what is the borgeson pn# of the damper?
__________________
1969 GMC K2500
1996 Honda Accord
2007 Kawasaki KLR 650
1969 GMC is offline  
Old 01-29-2007, 02:41 AM   #16
1976K5CHALET
Senior Member
 
1976K5CHALET's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Grand Junction, Colorado
Posts: 611
Re: Borgeson Steering U-Joint Review.

Anytime...the dampener is an option when you buy the shaft...it is integrated into the shaft. If you go to their web site you may be able to buy it seperately as i think they sell some of the components seperately so you can build your own custom shaft.

I'm out working in the patch so i do not have access to my records otherwise i'd get out the invoice and post it for you.

Email me anytime at k5nutt@hotmail.com.

2wdBlazer...the borgeson shaft is made to colapse in an accident just like the factory unit.

DW
__________________
Doug Wright aka K5NUTT over @coloradok5.com
Owner of http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ChevyK5BlazerChalets
Certified K5 Nut
1976K5CHALET is offline  
Old 01-30-2007, 03:33 AM   #17
1969 GMC
Registered User
 
1969 GMC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: The Rubber City
Posts: 5,498
Re: Borgeson Steering U-Joint Review.

uhh...i'm pretty sure you can just buy the damper/ujoint by itself since that is what 2wdblazer did before he made this thread.
__________________
1969 GMC K2500
1996 Honda Accord
2007 Kawasaki KLR 650
1969 GMC is offline  
Old 01-30-2007, 11:17 AM   #18
2wdBlazer
The Blazer King
 
2wdBlazer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Valrico, Fl (Tampa)
Posts: 1,213
Re: Borgeson Steering U-Joint Review.

Yep. I just called Borgeson and told them the shaft size and spline count. The steering column side is 36 spline x 3/4 DD.

The steering box side may be divverent on the splines and if the steering box was changed to a 77+ style the splines could be different yet again.
__________________
72 2wd Blazer. Its the superbichinest, megacoolinest, superflowinest.
2wdBlazer is offline  
 

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:24 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com