1970 C10 Factory Height Front Disc Brake Conversion - Now That ECE is Gone

[cericd]

Now that ECE is gone I’m looking for a kit like the one that they offered which would convert the front of my 1970 C10 to disc brakes (and 5-lug) while keeping the stock height and allow me to use the 1970 tie rod ends and ball joints. Here is a link to the ECE kit https://www.earlyclassic.com/node/1215. Their kit looked pretty complete and included a master cylinder and prop valve (that looked like the 1971 factory valve not a smooth rectangular piece like the CPP valve).

I Will be using factory 1971 5-lug 15x6 steel wheels so I need the components to be compatible with them. I already have 5-lug conversion axles for the rear. I also have a rebuilt factory brake booster to use with whatever kit I end up using.

Thanks

Edit: If the link doesn't work, here is the info from the ECE site.

SKU: 903-6770S-DBC5

Description:

1967-70 C-10 Disc Brake Conversion Kit, Stock Height, 5 lug

There are no federal standards for replacement automotive friction materials. When you buy brakes, you’re buying the standards of a company along with the good will and respect earned by a brand name manufacturer. Raybestos has exemplified quality in braking since 1902 and they are the exclusive supplier to Early Classic for calipers, friction and master cylinders in every kit we sell. While others in the industry choose foreign suppliers for their parts, our company philosophy has always been American-Made quality and dependability over foreign-made cost savings, insuring our customers trouble free braking for years to come. One word of caution when shopping for brakes: Half-ton trucks require Half-ton brakes! General Motors engineered the '71 and newer C-10 trucks with a much larger disc brake spindle that utilizes a 12" brake rotor, along with much larger diameter wheel bearings. Although it’s possible to adapt smaller passenger car parts to fit onto the stock drum brake spindle, you will never achieve the proper stopping power using these types of components on a C-10 truck. We’ve designed every Early Classic Spindle to accept standard GM ½ ton brake components, so replacement parts are readily available at your local auto parts store. Every Kit Comes Complete With Master Cylinder, Proportioning Valve, Brake Lines, Brake Hoses, Calipers, Pads, Rotors, Bearings, Seals, Dust Shields, Dust Caps, Castle Nuts, Slotted Washers, Banjo Bolts, and All necessary Hardware and Brackets.

[lolife99]

Your link to ECE didn’t work for me.
There are many companies selling direct bolt on 63-70 disc brake DROP spindles.
I’m not sure how many are doing stock height spindles.
Look at Western Chassis or McGaughys or CPP.
Belltech has some quality control issues with these spindles.


I be doing this same conversion soon on my moms 70 c10.
I’m piecing parts together.

Performanceonline is a good source for complete kits.
Also check out ProPerformance in AZ.
McGaughys would be another option, but they don’t drill their spindles for dust shields.
I have a hard time recommending CPP because of their terrible customer service.

[lolife99]

Use a 71-72 master cylinder or any aftermarket unit.
I prefer aluminum aftermarket m/c because they don’t rust.

[lolife99]

Also I’ve heard Holley has picked up the ECE product line and should be releasing some of there stuff soon.
Not sure on the timeframe of that or what exactly they will sell under the Holley brand.

[Thealien]

Originally Posted by lolife99

Also I’ve heard Holley has picked up the ECE product line and should be releasing some of there stuff soon.
Not sure on the timeframe of that or what exactly they will sell under the Holley brand.

Personally I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for that. They can’t ship the stuff they sell now in a timely fashion. I ordered a bunch of parts from them oil pan, exhaust system. And was told they would ship in about 30 days it is now 60 days and no true timeline for shipping is available. And these are parts they have on their website now.

[gmc684x4]

https://westernchassis.com/1963-70-c...rake-spindles/

[gmc684x4]

https://westernchassis.com/1963-70-c...rake-spindles/

[1LIME69]

I bought ECE front disc brake conversion kit for my 69' C10 several years ago and they sent me Western Chassis drop spindles in their kit. They seemed to be of great quality. The only problem I had with the spindles was that the upper control arm came in contact with the top of the spindle at full droop. If you had the truck jacked up you couldn't turn the wheels. I had to grind the end of my control arms to get clearance. Anyone else had this problem?

[gmc684x4]

1lime my cousins lowrider would do the same thing it was a cpp kit on his truck back in the 90s

[lolife99]

Originally Posted by Thealien

Personally I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for that. They can’t ship the stuff they sell now in a timely fashion. I ordered a bunch of parts from them oil pan, exhaust system. And was told they would ship in about 30 days it is now 60 days and no true timeline for shipping is available. And these are parts they have on their website now.

It’s not Holleys fault.
It’s their suppliers.
Almost all aftermarket auto parts vendors are behind on delivering their products.
6-8 week delays is pretty common.
Hopefully vendors are getting caught up.

[cericd]

Thanks for the info so far. I definitely gives me some places to start.

[leddzepp]

I have mcgaughys 63-70 stock height disc brake conversion spindles on my 68 with stock 5 lug 15” steelies. All other parts I sourced locally from autozone (5 lug rotors, calipers, etc). They work great, no complaints except as Keith pointed out they are not drilled for dust shields.

[gmc684x4]

If you get just the drop spindles brakes rotors bearings
Master cylinder are off the shelf parts at auto parts stores
71 to 79 c10 will get you the proper rotors years after that you will have to say hd rotors as gm came up with a 1 inch rotor

[driller35]

Put a CPP stock height kit on a couple of months ago on my 70 and works awesome , thinking the rears will be next

[Thealien]

Originally Posted by lolife99

It’s not Holleys fault.
It’s their suppliers.
Almost all aftermarket auto parts vendors are behind on delivering their products.
6-8 week delays is pretty common.
Hopefully vendors are getting caught up.

I do get that but they should be honest on their website and with buyers.When they say estimated ship date 30 days from now they should say but due to supply issues this could be much longer.Instead they just keep adding 2 weeks and adding 2 weeks and adding 2 weeks.

I use a vendor on this website and he has been really good with me.Saved me $50 just on the Holley oil pan.I had to cancel that and pay $50 more to order it through someone who had been in stock.I am still waiting on a bunch of parts which could potentially hold up my build and the installer is getting my truck today.

And again I wasn't really bashing holly but just giving people a heads-up that if they cannot ship the parts that they already produced I doubt you'll be coming out with new stuff anytime soon? I could be wrong though.

[lolife99]

Originally Posted by Thealien

I do get that but they should be honest on their website and with buyers.When they say estimated ship date 30 days from now they should say but due to supply issues this could be much longer.Instead they just keep adding 2 weeks and adding 2 weeks and adding 2 weeks.

I agree.
Your description above is exactly what Brothers Trucks parts has done for years.
No Covid excuse needed for them. Ha.

[A1971Blazer]

I just got this kit for my 67 with slotted rotors...stock height spindles
https://www.performanceonline.com/19...pindle-Deluxe/