1972 Cheyenne Super coming apart to go back together

[mr.mud1]

just a little update,the truck is now green and white.the green was painted on friday but i haven't seen it,i stopped by the shop this morning coming home an estate sale.i looked in through the windows of the body shop but didn't see the truck,i think it was in the spray booth.i'll get it monday or tuesday and take inventory and see where we go next.i spent the day cleaning moldings,polishing stainless and finishing up my grille.another cart load of moldings waiting for some TLC tomorrow.

[Richard]

Sorry to hear of the disappointment. Record time to get it back. Really surprised at that. My truck took 7 months with me putting in over 300 hours myself at the body shop. Looks really nice in the pics. Sucks that they did not take much care to protect existing work. Hope all goes easy with the cleanup.

[mr.mud1]

Originally Posted by Richard

Sorry to hear of the disappointment. Record time to get it back. Really surprised at that. My truck took 7 months with me putting in over 300 hours myself at the body shop. Looks really nice in the pics. Sucks that they did not take much care to protect existing work. Hope all goes easy with the cleanup.

hi Richard,nice to hear from you.it's an awful pain in the tail.the more i look,the more i see wrong.when i got the truck back Thursday,i washed and went over the whole truck,taking inventory.it's a real mess and just gets worse,the more i look.i tried to get overspray off,it won't come off so i've resigned myself to the fact that the nose has to come off and everything on the engine that isn't orange has to come off,repaint the engine then all the black parts need to be repainted,then a load of parts with no paint that are oversprayed,a real mess,then yesterday i found on the left side of the rad support,where the voltage regulator,horns,power steering reservoir and a bunch of wiring,all painted black with a rattle can,not my work but he must've seen where he blasted in through the hole in the fender for the side marker light,a load of white paint.he got out a can of black,painted everything,wiring,hoses,i guess he figured i'd be too stoopid to notice??now i have to get all the black paint off wires and such.i'm just overwhelmed.i worked all winter,everyday and now have to do it all again.i could almost live with having to do everything under the hood again and be ok,but i'm left with a huge mess in the bed and door jambs,where i told him not to paint?i was perfectly happy with the nice shiney original paint with a scratch or 2,rather than the mess he made by not preparing the bed or door jambs properly,just got in there,shot some paint around like he was gearing up an old truck to sent to auction,just a lick and a promise i call it,should've left it alone,like i told him,now i feel like i need to take the bed off,take it apart and paint inside and the doors properly so they look like the rest of the truck?not sure where i'm going next?i am supposed to have the PPG Paint guy coming to see the truck over the weekend,so maybe i can pick his brain.i did talk to the guys at the Chevy Dealership bodyshop in town,maybe,depending on what the paint guy tells me,i may take it to the chevy dealer next week?anyway it's your Memorial day weekend,hope you and all my U.S friends have a good one.we do have lots to be thankful for so this isn't the end of the world,lots of folks in lots bigger problems,a 100 years from now,i'll look back at this and laugh.take care,all the best.Greg

[LT7A]

Hey Greg, so sorry that the painter was so clueless. Really can't bring a collision repair mentality to restoring the finish on a old truck. And then to go over your immaculate engine bay with solvent and a rattle can. So much better to admit to the mistake and work it out, rather than try to fix it in such a manner. Really no understanding of the picture at all. On the bright side, the paint that went where you wanted it looks good. I hope you can make short work of the damage.

[mr.mud1]

Originally Posted by LT7A

Hey Greg, so sorry that the painter was so clueless. Really can't bring a collision repair mentality to restoring the finish on a old truck. And then to go over your immaculate engine bay with solvent and a rattle can. So much better to admit to the mistake and work it out, rather than try to fix it in such a manner. Really no understanding of the picture at all. On the bright side, the paint that went where you wanted it looks good. I hope you can make short work of the damage.

yes sir,a real shame that someone can't follow instructions?i didn't do anything this weekend on the truck,waiting for the paint rep guy who said he'd come by and have a look,he didn't show up.i do have to take the front clip off,the rad and rad support and everything off the engine that isn't orange,repaint it all then re-do all the black bracketry,get paint off what shouldn't be painted and do it all again but until i know what i'm doing about the paint on the truck,i'll leave it intact so if it goes somewhere else,it will still drive.we'll get'er figured out.take care.

[Phillip Owings]

Looking Good.

[mr.mud1]

Originally Posted by Phillip Owings

Looking Good.

thank you sir,it's coming along.

[Chevys4life]

Man...........it appears that they all are the same from what you said. It is the sign of the times that we are living in. Body shop jail is way of the world now. All of the overspray on all of your hard detail work is such a bummer. I know how much time you took for the details.

[mr.mud1]

Originally Posted by Chevys4life

Man...........it appears that they all are the same from what you said. It is the sign of the times that we are living in. Body shop jail is way of the world now. All of the overspray on all of your hard detail work is such a bummer. I know how much time you took for the details.

yes sir,it's a pain.i did just have the paint rep guy i was waiting on,arrive a bit ago,he looked over the places i wasn't happy with,like the orange peel on the hood,the cowl piece that's a different shade than the rest of the truck,the messed up door jambs and bed,that i didn't want painted but he did anyway,he advised that to fix it and have it match,all the green from the upper moldings,up,should be resprayed,all around the truck along with bed and door jambs but there needs to be a bunch of time spent preparing the bed and door jambs in order that it look as nice as the paint on the truck,other than the hood and cowl.the original paint in the bed and door jambs was fine,if he had've followed instructions and left it alone?i have a guy,highly recommended coming thursday to see the truck,i spoke to him today.he said he can do it,in October???that won't do but i may not much choice.a real pain in the rear end.i will have to strip the nose off the truck to re-do everything under the hood but i'm not doing any of that til the paint is fixed.the guy who did it,said this was as good as it gets?sorry,that's not good enough.we'll see what Thursday brings?

[mr.mud1]

well not much of an update or at least an update with any good news.i have had a few fella's asking about my truck so i thought give an update anyway,although it's not going anywhere fast?i had the truck painted,it's a mess.i've been weeks now trying to find someone to do it over or repair what i'm not happy with but getting nowhere,everybody i've called is either busy for the next year or so or they don't return my calls,drives me nuts.there's supposed to be a guy with quite a reputation for excellent paint work,to come see it this weekend along with the paint rep guy.we'll see what the weekend brings?i need to pull the engine compartment apart and repaint everything under the hood again,the engine needs resprayed and everything bolted it to that was black needs redone,the rad support,the rad,everything.there's black paint the jerk sprayed around trying to cover up white overspray so now i have black to get off things that shouldn't be painted at all?i warned him about getting overspray on the engine when i dropped off the truck and how i needed him to be careful and cover it all well.i doubt he covered anything,not even smart enough to tape over the holes in the fenders for the side markers,just paint right by them and blast all that white into the engine compartment?you can see how much overspray there is by looking in the battery box,without the battery in place,it's plain to see.i was scratching with a fingernail,in the overspray on the rad support,headlight rings,it's everwhere..the hood is all orange peel,might be hard to see but it's not pretty and the cowl,it's a different shade of green cause he painted it off the truck.i asked him not to paint inside the bed and doors,he did anyway and did a lousy job.the inside of the bed wasn't prepped at all,painted over dirt,oil.the paint on the headboard and the bed side insides,only got a lick and a promise as far as paint.you can see right through it.he screwed up the tape line on the back of the cab below the rear window.the molding won't cover it.i have green on both sides of the molding?pitiful excuse for paint work by a so-called expert?if i don't get that guy here this weekend,i may build a temporary paint booth in the other side of my shop and do it myself.

[mr.mud1]

more pictures of this mess.

[McDeezl]

Hey Greg,

Jeez that is just plain painful! Looks like the work to correct the overspray mess will be as big a job as the paint work for the body. You are way more diplomatic in describing that guy's lack of talent than I would have been that's for sure. If your area in NS is similar to mine in QC the shops who are the real deal are few and far between and booked a year plus in advance. On top of that even if you could get it in the invoice at the end would be enough to make you croak so I'm betting that you end up doing it yourself. Just keep saying to yourself "we will make this fun somehow" and you will be done before you figure out the somehow! You know you will have a big cheering section here so go for it!
Sean

[mr.mud1]

Originally Posted by McDeezl

Hey Greg,

Jeez that is just plain painful! Looks like the work to correct the overspray mess will be as big a job as the paint work for the body. You are way more diplomatic in describing that guy's lack of talent than I would have been that's for sure. If your area in NS is similar to mine in QC the shops who are the real deal are few and far between and booked a year plus in advance. On top of that even if you could get it in the invoice at the end would be enough to make you croak so I'm betting that you end up doing it yourself. Just keep saying to yourself "we will make this fun somehow" and you will be done before you figure out the somehow! You know you will have a big cheering section here so go for it!
Sean

hi Sean,thanks for the words of encouragement.this has been quite a disapointment to say the least.this truck is too good to look this bad.you're right,the good shops are few and far between,even the lousy ones are booked up months ahead of time.the Chevy dealer won't reply to my email,the Ford dealer guy at the body shop said they were 80 cars behind?it's all covids fault they say?i won't count my chickens before they hatch but i did just have a real painter leave here.he drove an hour from New Brunswick along with the paint rep guy,to have a look.he was shocked at what he was looking at.he's just left and he knows what i want and expect,said he'd go home and look at the work load and when he could do it and call me mid-week,so we'll see.he said he had a couple of big projects on the go that he thought might be winding down til winter,so as i say,not going to get my hopes up but we'll see what he says,mid week.better days are coming.take care.Greg

[Richard]

What a bummer this is. Wish you luck in finding a solution.

[mr.mud1]

Originally Posted by Richard

What a bummer this is. Wish you luck in finding a solution.

thank you sir.i had a guy here yesterday,highly recommended by the paint rep from the store where i bought the paint.the man drove an hour here to look at my truck with gas costing a fortune,i wanted to pay him for his time,trouble,advice and gas.he wouldn't hear of it but today we're going to etransfer him some money cause fair is fair.we went all over the truck looking at the problem areas,he gave me his advice on how to fix it and went home to check on his work load and when he could do it.he said he'll call later this week with a plan and a price.i won't get too revved up til i know what he has to say but i am cautiously hopeful there's a way out of this mess.i'll still have to take the truck apart to re-do everything under the hood but it's like eating an elephant,one bite at a time.we'll get there.take care.Greg

[mr.mud1]

not much to report,sitting here spinning my wheels with my fingers crossed,hoping and waiting to hear from the body shop guy who was here Saturday,hoping he'll tell me he can do it and when to bring it to him.i spent today taking things apart and scrubbing paint off from places it shouldn't be.the tail light lens's,the tail light and reverse light housings,the tailgate latchs and support arms.even the tail light and side marker light bulbs,all covered in white and or green paint.this will just be a warm up for the mess waiting for me under the hood.i haven't worked there at all cause when the truck has to go back to a body shop for re-painting,the truck will have to run.i'm hoping to get enough stuff off from the engine,to repaint the orange without pulling it completely out?we'll see.i'm so glad this bird was an expert?i would've hated that an back yard amateur got involved?what a king size waste of time and money?better days are coming.

[mr.mud1]

well not too much to report but i may be making some progress with regard to finding someone to repaint this mess.in the mean time since i'd lost the original paint in the bed(i had told the guy who painted it,NOT to paint the bed,he did anyway) now the bed has to prepped properly for repaint.i took the first of the wheel tubs off and cleaned all the old sealant from around the flanges on the tub.everything is in very good condition,started sanding on the bed sides and the tub.a little progress.the more i work on the truck,the more i find screwed up.i was hoping to,after the paint on the body is re-done,take everything apart under the hood to repaint the engine in the truck and then everything else that's bolted to it and around it,repaint and re-install,however i think that's impossible.i think i'll be pulling the motor back out.the black frame has white overspray and everything else.what a mess.

[68Gold/white]

I get so tired of that old saying, if you want something done right, do it yourself, biting me in the a$$, also....

[mr.mud1]

Originally Posted by 68Gold/white

I get so tired of that old saying, if you want something done right, do it yourself, biting me in the a$$, also....

yes sir,if i had a nickle for everytime i've repeated those words or had someone say it me,we'd all be rich??take care.Greg

[Gregski]

luv seeing a clean build, and this truck is in good hands!

[mr.mud1]

Originally Posted by Gregski

luv seeing a clean build, and this truck is in good hands!

thank you sir,i appreciate that.it is an awful good truck,best i've ever had,that's for sure.

[mr.mud1]

well again,not much in the way of progress but i do have a guy who said he will re-paint this mess,just hasn't told me when or how much?he told me how much he charges an hour and how many days he thinks it might be,so i started sanding inside the bed,figuring every hour i spend in there,is an hour i don't have to pay someone else.i have both wheel tubs out to make sanding easier and all the carriage bolts down the insides of the bed sides out,and going round and round in my tumbler machine.that'll get rid of the paint on them and will make sanding that bottom flange easier without bumping into carriage bolts.the inside of the tailgate was a mess,the original paint was scratched up quite bad,and then painted over by the guy who painted it,not listening to instructions when i told him not to paint inside the bed.i tried to sand past the scratches,pretty soon i was looking at bare metal,so i took all the paint off.the gate is in nice shape,it'll take a nice coat of paint now.this guy wants the bed right off so i have all the bolts holding the bed on,out.all but 1 in the front and back,along with the wiring disconnected,it'll only take a minute to get the bed off,once it gets to his shop.more news soon,i hope.take care.Greg

[mr.mud1]

nothing earth shattering for news,just working away on getting whatever i can do in regards to getting the truck ready for another paint job.i have the tailgate now completely stripped on the inside and the first sill at the back of the bed,stripped.it was scratched badly,there was no sanding that down without getting to bare metal.i have the left side of the bed cleaned up where the tailgate closes,right side tomorrow and then up the inside of the left bedside.i'm hoping the painter guy doesn't call wanting the truck for a week or 2,so i can get as much sanding done as i can.every hour i spent in there,is an hour of his time i don't have to pay for.

[mr.mud1]

a little more progress today.both wheel tubs stripped off to bare metal,still no word from the paint shop as to when they want the truck but that's ok.i have more work to do inside the bed and we have a house full of company so work time is a little limited.it'll all work out.

[CG]

Boy you dont mess around when it comes to stripping the paint off all the way to bare metal. You must have a good routine figured out.