1965, L6 292 Engine Power Steering Pump Set-Up

[aotte1]

Thought I would add some pictures of my water pump pulley. Again my "Pad" will only add one image at a time.

[aotte1]

Another pic. This with the fan removed. (Alternator pulley is offset-not correct in this image).

[aotte1]

Close-up of pulley and spacer to move fan forward.

[aotte1]

Side view of pulley.

[aotte1]

Parts are spacer used first on water pump shaft, next the dual belt pulley, followed by the fan spacer. This is from a 1965, "292". Will post pics of fan tomorrow.

[60-66]

Here's those 292 engine mount pictures you asked for in a 66 4x4 chassis

[aotte1]

60-66, thanks for the pictures of your 1966, 4x4 292 engine frame motor mounts/towers, they will help me a lot. Your 1966, 4x4 looks in great original condition. Certainly some history, that three belt water pump pulley is nice too.
Les

[Captainfab]

The motor mount bracket on the frame can just be moved forward. Just remove the rivets, move it forward, and bolt it back into place. The holes are already in the frame for the forward position.

[aotte1]

Captain,
Thanks for the help.
Les

[aotte1]

60-66,

With the holidays over late for us as our son had the after Christmas leave schedule this year, he got home Dec 31. I am just now getting back to 1964, K10 project.

Currently looking for the part number for the 292 engine PS pulley.
My master parts book does no show a number for the pulley until 1966 in group 6.655. I think the number for 1966 was "3791943 except 292"?? and "3906398 for 67 up".
I am hoping you can help me out with the part number and/or number cast in the pulley. Thanks again for the greatly appreciated pictures of your 63 pulley, along with supporting information. Did you ever find out more about the uniqueness of these pullies?

Thanks
Les

[60-66]

Hi Les, great to see your back into the truck. The pulley number is 3894044 for the power steering pump and that part number was superceded by 3831291 in July of 1966 then discontinued in 1974. What is the print date of your parts book ? It will not show up in later books. Im using a 1967 dated book for this info, my later 1979 date book does not show anything.

What power steering box are you using on your K10 ?

[aotte1]

60-66,

Thanks for the pulley part number(s), I am using a May 1981, parts book which is older then yours that does not list information also. I am always keeping my eye out for an older one. If you know, does the 63-66 PS pulley have any identifying numbers, etc. cast into it?

Good question, what power steering gear am I going to use. Have not decided yet, early stages of researching. Currently looking into doing a power assist set-up??? This leads to more questions for you. Can you tell from parts book what was the first year K10s were available w/PS. Does your older parts book show any illustrations of the gear area/mounting bracket. I have gotten answers from 1966 to late 67 as to when PS first available on K10s? If I go with the "Power Assist" will likely have to fabricate a bracket to mount the gear to the frame. Memory of others believes that the gear mounting bracket was a fairly large piece on K10s w/PS.
The other option recommended by most is to use a newer PS gear along with pitman arm( suggestions based on: easier, a lot less leakage, works better).

Have you worked thru adding PS to 63-66 K10s.

My current research is on using a C10 power assist steering set-up as my starting point.
As a note do have a magazine ad for Chevy truck "Power Assist steering" published in 63 or 64.
thanks,
Les

[aotte1]

60-66,

Thanks for the pulley part number(s), I am using a May 1981, parts book which is older then yours that does not list information also. I am always keeping my eye out for an older one. If you know, does the 63-66 PS pulley have any identifying numbers, etc. cast into it?

Good question, what power steering gear am I going to use. Have not decided yet, early stages of researching. Currently looking into doing a power assist set-up??? This leads to more questions for you. Can you tell from parts book what was the first year K10s were available w/PS. Does your older parts book show any illustrations of the gear area/mounting bracket. I have gotten answers from 1966 to late 67 as to when PS first available on K10s? If I go with the "Power Assist" will likely have to fabricate a bracket to mount the gear to the frame. Memory of others believes that the gear mounting bracket was a fairly large piece on K10s w/PS.
The other option recommended by most is to use a newer PS gear along with pitman arm( suggestions based on: easier, a lot less leakage, works better).

Have you worked thru adding PS to 63-66 K10s.

My current research is on using a C10 power assist steering set-up as my starting point.
As a note do have a magazine ad for Chevy truck "Power Assist steering" published in 63 or 64.
thanks,
Les

[TJ's Chevy]

I have pictures of a 1984 chevy 292 power steering setup if you want some...just to see if the style of brackets are similar or different.

[60-66]

1967 and I believe 1968 use a similar to half ton power steering setup using the same style slave cylinder and valve as a 63-66 C10. Although Ive yet to see one or drawings in a parts book. I did see a 1966 GMC K20 that had one but never saw the frame bracket, you could see how it was clamped to the center link. In my opinion I would just use a 72 and up K10 power steering box, a C10 box will not work. I have been trying to collect the 1967 K10 PS stuff as the cylinder and several other parts are different than C10. Hopefully someone will chime in here if they have seen such a unit complete for a 4X4.

[aotte1]

T J thanks for the offer, however, the early " power assist" are quite a bit different.

[aotte1]

A little info on 1965, and 1966, 292 engines I am restoring. The 1965 is, engine code FO 701 UW; date code F 8 5. The 1966 is, engine code FI 122 WH; date code I 30 5. The 65 is a dual pulley set-up, and the 66 is a single pulley set-up.
The upper alternator brackets are the same. The lower alternator brackets are different. The engine mounting brackets are the same, however, the round spacers are different sizes. The fans are the same. Some pictures of the above information are provided below:

[aotte1]

The image is below

[aotte1]

The different lower alternator brackets.

[aotte1]

The small round motor mount bracket spacer are for the 1965, the larger spacers are from the 1966.

[b.sharp]

Les, I have acquired a 64 factory 3/4 4x4 with original drivetrain and 292 engine. I would like to see your truck. It does not have ps. If you need any information, please let me know. Good luck on the build.

[aotte1]

Jon,
Picture I PMed you about.
Les

[60-66]

Yes that's the V8 shroud and mounts the same as 6 Cyl.

[RANDY COX]

Originally Posted by 60-66

These are the two main brackets for power steering on all 63-66 trucks 230 250 and 292. The difference with a 63-66 292 is the pumps pulley. These same brackets were used on all passenger car sixes also, Camaro Nova Chevelle and Impala and were in use on 230-250 trucks till 1970 according to the parts books.



This is a 1969 250 six C10 I have out back with the same brackets but different pulley. Again these are not correct for 67 up 292 but are correct for 63-66 292.

Good to see this info as I just purchased those same brackets, sounds like I need to get the right PS pulley, I'm using early style 70's pump so I guess that pulley will fit correct...Right now it's nowhere near alignment...so guess I'll be lookin for a pulley now...

[aotte1]

Randy,
The PS pulley is pretty rare.
I am still looking for one.

Good luck.

Les