Metallic paint with a satin clear

[GhostTown]

Will the metallic show up?

In other words, if I choose a metallic silver color, but have a satin clear coat applied, will it still look metallic without being shiny?

[turp mcspray]

Yes.

[colin_havens]

I really like metalliacs with satin clear over them. I dont know why, but it really pops. I have played with the idea of repainting my truck Satin Silver with a ton of metalliac in it. I have seen it on a few rides, and it looks soo sick.

[GhostTown]

Thank you for your replies.

The guy at the paint store said that the metallic would truly "disappear" if you don't put a high gloss coat on it.

[Shane]

paint store dude is absolutely correct ... you WILL lose some of the metallic with a satin clear ... just by the nature of the "satin" sheen being more "milky" than a gloss/glamour clear.

[cdowns]

try a test on something that is layin around like a wheelbarrow,toolbx,washerdryer,refridgerator mailbox etc
and see the result

[GhostTown]

Originally Posted by cdowns

try a test on something that is layin around like a wheelbarrow,toolbx,washerdryer,refridgerator mailbox etc
and see the result

I think I'll do that. Thanks for the idea.

[GhostTown]

Originally Posted by Shane

paint store dude is absolutely correct ... you WILL lose some of the metallic with a satin clear ... just by the nature of the "satin" sheen being more "milky" than a gloss/glamour clear.

I bought some paint and tested out the theory. It appears that the paint store dude was absolutely INCORRECT.

There is no glossy finish on the paint, and the metallic shows through beautifully after 4 coats of matte (they didn't have satin in stock so for this simple test, matte proved my theory just fine). Using the dark silver that I mixed up, it almost looks as if my test subject that I painted is raw metal when the light hits it.

[GruntMoanCough]

Yeah, so where's the pic?

[GhostTown]

Originally Posted by GruntMoanCough

Yeah, so where's the pic?

What I did is a pretty pathetic garage test using my smallish hand airbrush. Let me try and get a good pic of it tomorrow in the sun. It may or may not turn out, but I'll try. Good thing is that I had the pro painter who's going to paint my truck (it's a '50) look at the test and give me the thumbs up, so I'm stoked that it will work.

I've been wanting to do a matte finish paint job this whole build, but after further investigation, there are A LOT of plain'ol matte finishes out there. Especially in black. I'm hoping that this idea takes me in a another direction without losing the spirit of the early 60's period hot rod that I'm after. Sinister looking, with black steelies, wide whites, air ride, oil rubbed leather interior, and a lot of chrome.

[Shane]

Originally Posted by GhostTown

I bought some paint and tested out the theory. It appears that the paint store dude was absolutely INCORRECT.

There is no glossy finish on the paint, and the metallic shows through beautifully after 4 coats of matte (they didn't have satin in stock so for this simple test, matte proved my theory just fine). Using the dark silver that I mixed up, it almost looks as if my test subject that I painted is raw metal when the light hits it.

cool ...glad it worked for you.

[LONGHAIR]

Originally Posted by Shane

paint store dude is absolutely correct ... you WILL lose some of the metallic with a satin clear ... just by the nature of the "satin" sheen being more "milky" than a gloss/glamour clear.

This is absloutely true....Now, you may indeed like the results of your experiment, but the metallic will definately be "muted" some by the flattening agent...and the more you put on, the more pronounced it becomes. The metallic will definately still show, it's at a distance where you see the difference. You would need to spray-out a full gloss test card to actually see it for yourself with them side by side.

I haven't painted a car in years, but I do spray quiet a bit of "flat" lacquer on furniture and cabinetry. The flat we use is 15% gloss, which has a ton of flattener in it. The stuff looks like skim milk in the can, literally. As the coats build up, you can see darker colors turning gray. There is a point of "too much".

[VA72C10]

I like the idea....I love a glossy paint job but a satin metallic sounds pretty sweet!

[VA72C10]

Do you have a build thread? I love your plans....have you considered a white roof since you're doing the wide whites?

[GhostTown]

I sort of have a build thread going. I just found these forums recently and my intro thread (which was likely in the wrong place) is kind of a build thread. I have one on another site that is a little more detailed. I'll PM you a link if you're interested.

Everything is mocked up now. The frame and all other chassis components will be torn apart for sand blasting Monday, so that is where I am with the build. We'll be done with it this summer unless something big stops me.

[colin_havens]

Here is one I found to give you an idea of what a flat metalliac silver looks like. I have no idea whos truck it is, but it is killer.

[KQQL IT]

WOW..

[Musclerodz]

it will look just like basecoat without clear, except sealed. Will have an opaque look to it.

[GhostTown]

Ho Lee CRAP!

That's it man. Nice work!

[VA72C10]

yeah....that'll work

[GhostTown]

That's fine. It looks the way I want it to look so I'm satisfied.

[Shane]

post up some pics ...