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Crash_OK · 11-19-2011, 10:18 AM

Hello, thought I would introduce my project. I am starting on a ground up restore of my 1972 K10. I purchased the K10 Thursday night and have driven it about 250 miles. I feel comfortable with the mechanical side of the restore (although I am not sure which direction I will be taking). The truck runs and drives good for a 40 year truck, but the body is rough with some bad rust in places. I am a newbie when it comes to bodywork and paint. I am hoping some of you will be able to lead me down the right path when it comes to those areas.

Crash_OK · 11-19-2011, 09:14 PM

Pic's of the tear down.

I knew it was a lwb to swb conversion.. not sure what I think about the way it was done.. on the positive side, it has been this way for years.

Looks like a lot of work.

Hopefully tomorrow I can get frame cleaned up and ready for ??? Por-15, Paint, not sure yet.

jayman68 · 11-19-2011, 09:28 PM

Thats a pretty good start for 3 days. I suppose the tare down goes pretty quick, it's the reassembly that takes longer. Good luck on the project.

Crash_OK · 11-19-2011, 09:34 PM

Thanks Jayman.. That was all done today... I am very sore.. :-) And yes you are right it will take much longer to put it back together..

Rich1972C20 · 11-19-2011, 09:34 PM

Looks great. I posted a message concerning how the rear bumper attaches to the frame on a leaf spring suspension and I see you have one. Do you have picture of how the rear bumper bracket attaches to the frame?

Crash_OK · 11-19-2011, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Rich1972C20

Looks great. I posted a message concerning how the rear bumper attaches to the frame on a leaf spring suspension and I see you have one. Do you have picture of how the rear bumper bracket attaches to the frame?

No sorry I do not. The bumper on my truck appeared to be a later model. In fact the PO used 1x4 wood piece for spacers.. I have a good laugh over that.

Crash_OK · 11-21-2011, 11:18 AM

Sunday I finished the tear down and started the clean up process.

Next step: Remove the differentials from the frame and start prepping the frame for a new coat of paint.

Any ideas in this area? My thoughts are to clean the frame (by hand or have it sand basted), then coat it with POR-15 and then paint. However, I am looking for advice…

Also, I need to post the wheels and tires for sale along with the engine, transmisson, and transfercase.

tattoed71 · 11-21-2011, 11:30 AM

looks cool bud

tattoed71 · 11-21-2011, 11:30 AM

my wifes from altus

72LSK10 · 11-21-2011, 11:51 PM

You have a sick truck, LB or not, it's a SB now and that's all that matters. Although LB K10's look sweet when they're lifted. Congrats on the frame off, I'm sure it will look sick when you're done with her. You asked for feedback in regards to the diff's. What are your plans with her? Any off-roading? Or will she be a sick K10? This will determine what the diff's call for. I use to rock craw and wheel the heck out of my K10, so she had a built D44 with an ARB chromoly axles, cross over and high steer with PSC hydraulic assist and 4.10's up front, (Brand new D60 in the garage waiting to be dropped in) 14BFF with detroit locker out back. Did awesome off-road, wouldn't need any or all of this if she won't be heavily wheeled.

Crash_OK · 11-22-2011, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by 72LSK10

You have a sick truck, LB or not, it's a SB now and that's all that matters. Although LB K10's look sweet when they're lifted. Congrats on the frame off, I'm sure it will look sick when you're done with her. You asked for feedback in regards to the diff's. What are your plans with her? Any off-roading? Or will she be a sick K10? This will determine what the diff's call for. I use to rock craw and wheel the heck out of my K10, so she had a built D44 with an ARB chromoly axles, cross over and high steer with PSC hydraulic assist and 4.10's up front, (Brand new D60 in the garage waiting to be dropped in) 14BFF with detroit locker out back. Did awesome off-road, wouldn't need any or all of this if she won't be heavily wheeled.

72LSK10,

Thanks, I hope it all turns out well. Wow, sounds like you have quite a setup. Good look with the axle swap. I was really looking for some advice on prepping the frame, but since you asked about the diffs, my plans are to leave them stock. I will be using the truck to pull the boat in and out of the water, and maybe some light off-roading. I had hoped to only replace the seals but both diff's have some slack in the pinion area, so I will have to fix that. I am not sure what they will need, (bearings??) bit I hope to tear them down this weekend.

Crash_OK · 11-24-2011, 09:55 PM

Time for an update, yesterday I spent the day building a work table to work off of. I had something similar over 20 years ago when I was a mechanic at the local NAPA. It was great for rebuilding transmission and Transfer Cases.

Today I finished up the work table and started on the rear axle.

Not sure what this was. There was one on each side of the axle. I guess I will cut them off and clean up the axle.

This does not look good.

Something hit here at one time.

I could not found where the loose metal came from. I can only assume something happened to the differential at an earlier time and it was not cleaned up well. It looks like I will need to replace the ring, pinion, and bearings.

72LSK10 · 11-25-2011, 12:33 PM

Sweet table, I've had the same issue before, where you find shrapnel and can't pin point where it's from. Look at it this way, once you finish the diff's, you'll be confident that they will hold up to what you throw at them.

Dunenutt · 11-26-2011, 08:21 PM

When you order the gears, just order a master install kit for each axle. The kit will have everything needed for install. X2 on randy's.

On the frame, you can wire wheel it if you have the time. POR = paint over rust.

Good start on the truck!

Crash_OK · 11-26-2011, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunenutt

When you order the gears, just order a master install kit for each axle. The kit will have everything needed for install. X2 on randy's.

On the frame, you can wire wheel it if you have the time. POR = paint over rust.

Good start on the truck!

Thanks Dunenutt, I have already ordered master kits for both axles (from Randy's), along with a Ring and Pinion for the 12 bolt.

Just to make sure I am clear, you would wire wheel and then paint with POR? Would you also you POR on the axles and springs?

Dunenutt · 11-27-2011, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crash_OK

Thanks Dunenutt, I have already ordered master kits for both axles (from Randy's), along with a Ring and Pinion for the 12 bolt.

Just to make sure I am clear, you would wire wheel and then paint with POR? Would you also you POR on the axles and springs?

Yes, clean them up as good as possible with a wheel, use the prep spray, and paint it as per instructions. Sandblasting is ok, quick but expensive.If you do have them blasted, you can down grade from the white blast. I would do the springs with chassis black ( made by POR) , as the POR15 may crack from bending.

Crash_OK · 11-28-2011, 02:48 PM

Work completed on Sunday - Cleanup of the transfer case and transmission.

Won’t need this with the new setup, I guess I will put it in the for sale area.

Transmission cleanup…

This too will be for sale, not needed in the new setup…

Ordered parts last night, should have everything here by Thursday I hope…

Crash_OK · 12-03-2011, 09:56 PM

Decided to clean the engine up a little, even though I will not be using it on this project.

Picked up a used press for the differential rebuilds. It will also be used on the ball joints, spring bushings, etc.

Picked up some cheap tools from Harbor Freight.

Built up the 12 bolt today

Tomorrow, I will start on the DANA 44 rebuild if I can found some inner axle seals. If not I may get the sand blaster rigged up and clean up the shop. I bought a used Texas Blaster Yesterday.

I have never used one before, so I am open to any ideas on how use it.

RCbowtie69 · 12-13-2011, 07:24 PM

Looking good.Keep pictures coming & keep on truckin'

Crash_OK · 12-13-2011, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RCbowtie69

Looking good.Keep pictures coming & keep on truckin'

Thanks.. I had forgotten how much cleaning goes into repairing stuff... Hopefully I will finally get to a point where everything is clean….

Crash_OK · 12-13-2011, 10:30 PM

It was too humid to paint with the POR15 today, so I decided to clean the frame up even more. First I removed some old brackets. Then I decided I would box the area where the LB to SB conversion was done. First step was to create some templates out of cardboard.

Then I transferred the temple shape to some 3/16” plate and cut them pieces out using my hand grinder and some cutoff wheels. It took about 25 minutes to cut pieces out and trim them to size.
After that I welded them into place.

After that I figured I should degrease the frame, I had handled it with grease gloves during the cleanup and boxing.

I also degreased and prepped the axles for paint.

Back to work tomorrow, but I hope to be back to the shop Thursday to finally start the paint on the frame.

Crash_OK · 12-15-2011, 10:37 PM

Started on the frame paint today, two coats of POR 15 so far. Tomorrow I will put a coat of the POR Chassis Black on the frame.

I also painted the axles, springs, and some other items.

While I was waiting on the frame to dry, I put the backing plates, hub and rotors on the DANA 44.

Tomorrow I will top coat with the POR chassis black. And then continue the work on the DANA 44 and 12 bolt axles.

caser · 12-16-2011, 01:04 PM

subscribed Great idea on the table, I am getting to old to do work on the garage floor. Plus if you spill your beer just go grab another.

Crash_OK · 12-16-2011, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by caser

subscribed Great idea on the table, I am getting to old to do work on the garage floor. Plus if you spill your beer just go grab another.

The table has been great.. no way I could work off of the floor.. I am too old..

Crash_OK · 12-16-2011, 11:21 PM

Started off the day with finishing up the DANA 44; mounted the calipers, and then installed the manual hub locks.

Then I installed the 12 bolt brakes and hubs.

When I tore down the transfer case it was full of ATF, so I pulled the bearing out of the transmission to transfer case and checked the seals. One of them was messed up

.
Then I cleaned up the steering sector.

All I am waiting on now is the front spring bushings and the rear lift blocks ( the old ones were rusted out, homemade at of 2” tubing) and U-bolts.

Tomorrow, I start the search for a 5.3L and 4L60e with all the stuff needed for the swap.

11-19-2011, 10:18 AM	#1
Crash_OK Registered User Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Edmond, OK. Posts: 1,362	Crash's 69 K10 Hello, thought I would introduce my project. I am starting on a ground up restore of my 1972 K10. I purchased the K10 Thursday night and have driven it about 250 miles. I feel comfortable with the mechanical side of the restore (although I am not sure which direction I will be taking). The truck runs and drives good for a 40 year truck, but the body is rough with some bad rust in places. I am a newbie when it comes to bodywork and paint. I am hoping some of you will be able to lead me down the right path when it comes to those areas.

11-19-2011, 09:14 PM	#2
Crash_OK Registered User Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Edmond, OK. Posts: 1,362	Re: Crash's 72 K10 Pic's of the tear down. I knew it was a lwb to swb conversion.. not sure what I think about the way it was done.. on the positive side, it has been this way for years. Looks like a lot of work. Hopefully tomorrow I can get frame cleaned up and ready for ??? Por-15, Paint, not sure yet.

11-19-2011, 09:28 PM	#3
jayman68 Fun Stuff Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Sedro Woolley, WA Posts: 400	Re: Crash's 72 K10 Thats a pretty good start for 3 days. I suppose the tare down goes pretty quick, it's the reassembly that takes longer. Good luck on the project. __________________ Jay 68 C10(project) 88 Honda Accord(DD) 93 Chevy Astro EXT 2wd

11-19-2011, 09:34 PM	#4
Crash_OK Registered User Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Edmond, OK. Posts: 1,362	Re: Crash's 72 K10 Thanks Jayman.. That was all done today... I am very sore.. :-) And yes you are right it will take much longer to put it back together..

11-19-2011, 09:34 PM	#5
Rich1972C20 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Plainfield, NJ Posts: 35	Re: Crash's 72 K10 Looks great. I posted a message concerning how the rear bumper attaches to the frame on a leaf spring suspension and I see you have one. Do you have picture of how the rear bumper bracket attaches to the frame?

11-21-2011, 11:18 AM	#7
Crash_OK Registered User Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Edmond, OK. Posts: 1,362	Re: Crash's 72 K10 Sunday I finished the tear down and started the clean up process. Next step: Remove the differentials from the frame and start prepping the frame for a new coat of paint. Any ideas in this area? My thoughts are to clean the frame (by hand or have it sand basted), then coat it with POR-15 and then paint. However, I am looking for advice… Also, I need to post the wheels and tires for sale along with the engine, transmisson, and transfercase.

11-21-2011, 11:30 AM	#8
tattoed71 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: abilene,Texas Posts: 149	Re: Crash's 72 K10 looks cool bud

11-21-2011, 11:30 AM	#9
tattoed71 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: abilene,Texas Posts: 149	Re: Crash's 72 K10 my wifes from altus

11-21-2011, 11:51 PM	#10
72LSK10 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 127	Re: Crash's 72 K10 You have a sick truck, LB or not, it's a SB now and that's all that matters. Although LB K10's look sweet when they're lifted. Congrats on the frame off, I'm sure it will look sick when you're done with her. You asked for feedback in regards to the diff's. What are your plans with her? Any off-roading? Or will she be a sick K10? This will determine what the diff's call for. I use to rock craw and wheel the heck out of my K10, so she had a built D44 with an ARB chromoly axles, cross over and high steer with PSC hydraulic assist and 4.10's up front, (Brand new D60 in the garage waiting to be dropped in) 14BFF with detroit locker out back. Did awesome off-road, wouldn't need any or all of this if she won't be heavily wheeled.

11-24-2011, 09:55 PM	#12
Crash_OK Registered User Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Edmond, OK. Posts: 1,362	Re: Crash's 72 K10 Time for an update, yesterday I spent the day building a work table to work off of. I had something similar over 20 years ago when I was a mechanic at the local NAPA. It was great for rebuilding transmission and Transfer Cases. Today I finished up the work table and started on the rear axle. Not sure what this was. There was one on each side of the axle. I guess I will cut them off and clean up the axle. This does not look good. Something hit here at one time. I could not found where the loose metal came from. I can only assume something happened to the differential at an earlier time and it was not cleaned up well. It looks like I will need to replace the ring, pinion, and bearings.

11-25-2011, 12:33 PM	#13
72LSK10 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 127	Re: Crash's 72 K10 Sweet table, I've had the same issue before, where you find shrapnel and can't pin point where it's from. Look at it this way, once you finish the diff's, you'll be confident that they will hold up to what you throw at them.

11-26-2011, 08:21 PM	#14
Dunenutt Newbee Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Phoenix, Arizona Posts: 1,406	Re: Crash's 72 K10 When you order the gears, just order a master install kit for each axle. The kit will have everything needed for install. X2 on randy's. On the frame, you can wire wheel it if you have the time. POR = paint over rust. Good start on the truck! __________________ My Build, http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...58#post4464158

11-28-2011, 02:48 PM	#17
Crash_OK Registered User Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Edmond, OK. Posts: 1,362	Re: Crash's 72 K10 Work completed on Sunday - Cleanup of the transfer case and transmission. Won’t need this with the new setup, I guess I will put it in the for sale area. Transmission cleanup… This too will be for sale, not needed in the new setup… Ordered parts last night, should have everything here by Thursday I hope…

12-03-2011, 09:56 PM	#18
Crash_OK Registered User Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Edmond, OK. Posts: 1,362	Re: Crash's 72 K10 Decided to clean the engine up a little, even though I will not be using it on this project. Picked up a used press for the differential rebuilds. It will also be used on the ball joints, spring bushings, etc. Picked up some cheap tools from Harbor Freight. Built up the 12 bolt today Tomorrow, I will start on the DANA 44 rebuild if I can found some inner axle seals. If not I may get the sand blaster rigged up and clean up the shop. I bought a used Texas Blaster Yesterday. I have never used one before, so I am open to any ideas on how use it. Last edited by Crash_OK; 12-03-2011 at 10:06 PM.

12-13-2011, 07:24 PM	#19
RCbowtie69 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Thomasville, NC Posts: 1,877	Re: Crash's 72 K10 Looking good.Keep pictures coming & keep on truckin' __________________ My Truck: 2.5 drop front, 4 & 5/8 in rear, 350cubic in. been bored .60 over, 700r4 (soon), 3 speed (on tree for now).rims & tires size,15x8 ralleys 5 on 5,P275/60R15. Members I have met: Pickupman, 1972 Super Cheyenne, Stepside,Chis Mc Bride. tsnow67,joel.e,



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12-13-2011, 10:30 PM	#21
Crash_OK Registered User Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Edmond, OK. Posts: 1,362	Re: Crash's 72 K10 It was too humid to paint with the POR15 today, so I decided to clean the frame up even more. First I removed some old brackets. Then I decided I would box the area where the LB to SB conversion was done. First step was to create some templates out of cardboard. Then I transferred the temple shape to some 3/16” plate and cut them pieces out using my hand grinder and some cutoff wheels. It took about 25 minutes to cut pieces out and trim them to size. After that I welded them into place. After that I figured I should degrease the frame, I had handled it with grease gloves during the cleanup and boxing. I also degreased and prepped the axles for paint. Back to work tomorrow, but I hope to be back to the shop Thursday to finally start the paint on the frame.

12-15-2011, 10:37 PM	#22
Crash_OK Registered User Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Edmond, OK. Posts: 1,362	Re: Crash's 72 K10 Started on the frame paint today, two coats of POR 15 so far. Tomorrow I will put a coat of the POR Chassis Black on the frame. I also painted the axles, springs, and some other items. While I was waiting on the frame to dry, I put the backing plates, hub and rotors on the DANA 44. Tomorrow I will top coat with the POR chassis black. And then continue the work on the DANA 44 and 12 bolt axles.

12-16-2011, 01:04 PM	#23
caser Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Henderson Colorado Posts: 11	Re: Crash's 72 K10 subscribed Great idea on the table, I am getting to old to do work on the garage floor. Plus if you spill your beer just go grab another.

12-16-2011, 11:21 PM	#25
Crash_OK Registered User Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Edmond, OK. Posts: 1,362	Re: Crash's 72 K10 Started off the day with finishing up the DANA 44; mounted the calipers, and then installed the manual hub locks. Then I installed the 12 bolt brakes and hubs. When I tore down the transfer case it was full of ATF, so I pulled the bearing out of the transmission to transfer case and checked the seals. One of them was messed up . Then I cleaned up the steering sector. All I am waiting on now is the front spring bushings and the rear lift blocks ( the old ones were rusted out, homemade at of 2” tubing) and U-bolts. Tomorrow, I start the search for a 5.3L and 4L60e with all the stuff needed for the swap.

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