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1967k30 · 02-22-2006, 10:20 PM

I was out snow wheelin with my 67' last wednesday and I parked it and went to start it up that night and I saw a bunch of sparks under the dash when I turned the key.It wouldn't even turn over.I dragged it to the shop and installed a new wiring harness because the one in it was melted in a place or two

.Now it won't do anything

.I even changed the switch.Would the starter have gone when I was getting sparks?

Longhorn Man · 02-22-2006, 10:23 PM

Do you have any power inside the truck at all?

truckguy1971 · 02-22-2006, 10:34 PM

any fuses blown?

**Palf70Step** · 02-22-2006, 10:41 PM

MY $.02, check the fuseable link wire under the hood. Chances are it went out too from the way you described the frying of the inside. It sounds like something is shorted somewhere. Check you battery for damage also. Good harness frys can zap your battery too.

Robert1970C20rstbukt · 02-23-2006, 12:01 AM

Check the battery cable and wires going to your starter. The purple wire or the battery cable could have been melted by the exhaust or something and shorted out.

1967k30 · 02-23-2006, 12:29 AM

I checked for power at the ignition switch.There is power there.That's the only thing I have in the cab at this time.The heater works fine but it hardwired to a toggle switch currently.I hope my battery is OK because it is a new Optima Red Top

Steelawork'n · 02-23-2006, 10:32 AM

A power surge can knock out the voltage regulator....that little black box up front on the left in the engine compartment...and if it's a stock ignition switch, it good be toast.

**sneakysnake** · 02-23-2006, 10:54 AM

Neutral safety switch?Seems to get over looked when doing a rewire.

1967k30 · 02-25-2006, 09:54 PM

Well I changed the starter and checked all the wires and still nothing.The only wire not hooked up is the ine that goes to the proportioning valve.I don't think it should be the problem.I'm beginning to wonder what else is wrong.We tryed to pull start it and it sounded weird and wouldn't even try to fire.I relized there was no gas in it after we tryed but it still should have sounded like a motor turning over. I wondered if I had snow/water in the motor because the air cleaner was full of snow and ice.The dipstick doesn't show it but the way it sounds makes me wonder.

rkarr · 02-25-2006, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1967k30

Well I changed the starter and checked all the wires and still nothing.The only wire not hooked up is the ine that goes to the proportioning valve.I don't think it should be the problem.I'm beginning to wonder what else is wrong.We tryed to pull start it and it sounded weird and wouldn't even try to fire.I relized there was no gas in it after we tryed but it still should have sounded like a motor turning over. I wondered if I had snow/water in the motor because the air cleaner was full of snow and ice.The dipstick doesn't show it but the way it sounds makes me wonder.

Don't panic!

Leave it alone for a while, then when you're head is clear, start at the battery and see how far you have electricity...
It's likely something weird or super simple (Like a fused link)...
Hang in there!

davidh · 02-26-2006, 01:26 PM

TO check the engine, cross the starter posts with a screwdriver to see if it will turn over.

**truckdude239** · 02-26-2006, 07:25 PM

pull the plugs out if you thing you got water in them and hot wire the starter to spin over to push the water out of the cyliders

harlyworkr · 02-26-2006, 07:35 PM

NUTRAL SAFETY SWITCH ON MINE needed jumped WHEN i REPLACED THE HARNESS on my 69. (dAMN cAPS lOCK)

pharcydekm · 02-26-2006, 08:32 PM

I agree with TruckDude. If the engine is hydralocked it will do nothing. By trying to pull start it you could cause sever engine damage! Pull the plugs and turn it over. if it still will not turn over run a wire up from the starter solonoid and hit it to the positive battery term this will bypass the ignition and should turn the starter. if water blows out of the plug holes, clean the plugs and reinstall or replace the plugs its up to you. If the starter doesn't engauge when you jump it replace the starter. I'm assuming you have check the battery to see if it is good. If not you can take the optima back they have a 3 year warranty free replacement as long as the terminals are not melted or damaged in anyway. oh also check all your grounds. I had a similar situation that ended up being my ground to the alt bracket. I moved it down to the exhaust manifold and it turned over everytime.

02-22-2006, 10:20 PM	#1
1967k30 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: NE Posts: 363	truck won't run I was out snow wheelin with my 67' last wednesday and I parked it and went to start it up that night and I saw a bunch of sparks under the dash when I turned the key.It wouldn't even turn over.I dragged it to the shop and installed a new wiring harness because the one in it was melted in a place or two .Now it won't do anything .I even changed the switch.Would the starter have gone when I was getting sparks? __________________ 01 2500 Duramax,6spd,4x4,Not stock. Estimated 550rwhp/1100rwfp on fuel only. 03 3500 Duramax,6spd,4x4,Pac-Brake,not stock Estimated 500rwhp/1000rwfp fuel only 67 K10 in many pieces Little Brothers truck 67 K20 Cummins 12V/NV4500/205, D60/Eaton w/ Detroit,37" Xterrains,crossover steering, Future plans,Twins and lots of fuel.

02-22-2006, 10:23 PM	#2
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: truck won't run Do you have any power inside the truck at all?

02-22-2006, 10:34 PM	#3
truckguy1971 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 33	Re: truck won't run any fuses blown?

02-22-2006, 10:41 PM	#4
Palf70Step State of Confusion! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gulfport, MS USA Posts: 46,634	Re: truck won't run MY $.02, check the fuseable link wire under the hood. Chances are it went out too from the way you described the frying of the inside. It sounds like something is shorted somewhere. Check you battery for damage also. Good harness frys can zap your battery too. __________________ Bill 1970 Chevy Custom/10 LWB Fleetside 2010 Toyota Tacoma PreRunner SR5 Double Cab - DD Member of Louisiana Classic Truck Club (LCTC) Bill's Gallery Life isn't tied with a bow, but it's still a gift. Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God!

02-23-2006, 12:01 AM	#5
Robert1970C20rstbukt Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Beeville, Texas Posts: 1,943	Re: truck won't run Check the battery cable and wires going to your starter. The purple wire or the battery cable could have been melted by the exhaust or something and shorted out. __________________ RJD 1984 Chevrolet C30 welding truck 454/SM465 1977 GMC C15 pickup 350/TH350 1970 Chevrolet C20 pickup 350/TH400 1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban 454/TH350 1969 GMC 8500 478M V6/5 spd winch truck

02-23-2006, 12:29 AM	#6
1967k30 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: NE Posts: 363	Re: truck won't run I checked for power at the ignition switch.There is power there.That's the only thing I have in the cab at this time.The heater works fine but it hardwired to a toggle switch currently.I hope my battery is OK because it is a new Optima Red Top __________________ 01 2500 Duramax,6spd,4x4,Not stock. Estimated 550rwhp/1100rwfp on fuel only. 03 3500 Duramax,6spd,4x4,Pac-Brake,not stock Estimated 500rwhp/1000rwfp fuel only 67 K10 in many pieces Little Brothers truck 67 K20 Cummins 12V/NV4500/205, D60/Eaton w/ Detroit,37" Xterrains,crossover steering, Future plans,Twins and lots of fuel.

02-23-2006, 10:32 AM	#7
Steelawork'n Just hang'n around Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Camano Island WA Posts: 248	Re: truck won't run A power surge can knock out the voltage regulator....that little black box up front on the left in the engine compartment...and if it's a stock ignition switch, it good be toast. __________________ Driving a '68 Chevy C20 and a '93 Astro Van. Lots and lots of mileage that I deduct each year.

02-23-2006, 10:54 AM	#8
sneakysnake It's a catastrophic success. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 2,077	Re: truck won't run Neutral safety switch?Seems to get over looked when doing a rewire.

02-25-2006, 09:54 PM	#9
1967k30 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: NE Posts: 363	Re: truck won't run Well I changed the starter and checked all the wires and still nothing.The only wire not hooked up is the ine that goes to the proportioning valve.I don't think it should be the problem.I'm beginning to wonder what else is wrong.We tryed to pull start it and it sounded weird and wouldn't even try to fire.I relized there was no gas in it after we tryed but it still should have sounded like a motor turning over. I wondered if I had snow/water in the motor because the air cleaner was full of snow and ice.The dipstick doesn't show it but the way it sounds makes me wonder. __________________ 01 2500 Duramax,6spd,4x4,Not stock. Estimated 550rwhp/1100rwfp on fuel only. 03 3500 Duramax,6spd,4x4,Pac-Brake,not stock Estimated 500rwhp/1000rwfp fuel only 67 K10 in many pieces Little Brothers truck 67 K20 Cummins 12V/NV4500/205, D60/Eaton w/ Detroit,37" Xterrains,crossover steering, Future plans,Twins and lots of fuel.

02-26-2006, 01:26 PM	#11
davidh Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ponca city now kingfisher Oklahoma Posts: 1,221	Re: truck won't run TO check the engine, cross the starter posts with a screwdriver to see if it will turn over.

02-26-2006, 07:25 PM	#12
truckdude239 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Lewisville, Nc Posts: 10,217	Re: truck won't run pull the plugs out if you thing you got water in them and hot wire the starter to spin over to push the water out of the cyliders __________________ David fuller Ase Certified Mechanic Click here to help support our board!! 1971 Chevy c-10 under going a 4.8l LSx swap Build Thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=421305 2007 Honda Accord my daily 145kmiles 2002 Honda Accord 4 door With 330k(sisters car) 2005 toyota Avalon 228k( brothers car) 2002 Sububran 5.3 245k 2000 Tahoe 5.3l 378 General manager for Marco's Carwash & lube Last edited by truckdude239; 02-26-2006 at 07:26 PM.

02-26-2006, 07:35 PM	#13
harlyworkr Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Kansas City Kansas Posts: 212	Re: truck won't run NUTRAL SAFETY SWITCH ON MINE needed jumped WHEN i REPLACED THE HARNESS on my 69. (dAMN cAPS lOCK)

02-26-2006, 08:32 PM	#14
pharcydekm Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Englewood, CO Posts: 146	Re: truck won't run I agree with TruckDude. If the engine is hydralocked it will do nothing. By trying to pull start it you could cause sever engine damage! Pull the plugs and turn it over. if it still will not turn over run a wire up from the starter solonoid and hit it to the positive battery term this will bypass the ignition and should turn the starter. if water blows out of the plug holes, clean the plugs and reinstall or replace the plugs its up to you. If the starter doesn't engauge when you jump it replace the starter. I'm assuming you have check the battery to see if it is good. If not you can take the optima back they have a 3 year warranty free replacement as long as the terminals are not melted or damaged in anyway. oh also check all your grounds. I had a similar situation that ended up being my ground to the alt bracket. I moved it down to the exhaust manifold and it turned over everytime. Last edited by pharcydekm; 02-26-2006 at 08:34 PM.



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