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Old 03-25-2017, 06:34 PM   #101
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Re: 1972 Blazer CST Frame off Project in NC

Ok, I need some help.

Does anyone know the torque settings for the ball joints on the drag link that goes from front tire to front tire? I looked in the service manual and I THINK its 50 ft-lbs, then turn to the next cotter pin hole, but I can't tell for sure. The book doesn't call it a drag link or center link and only refers to a tie rod - which I think is the rod that goes from the pitman arm to the steering arm.

I also looked in the assembly guide - - no dice.

Heres a pic from the assembly guide of the ball joint I am speaking of.......thanks guys.
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Old 03-26-2017, 08:30 AM   #102
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Tie rod is what goes from steering knuckle....... to steering knuckle...drag link connects pitman arm to steering arm....what you are referring to is the "tie rod end"
I have a torque chart somewhere if I can find it.

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Old 03-26-2017, 09:46 AM   #103
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There's no need for factory specs because the size of the bolt and it's grade will determine what's needed for the proper torque. I have this chart posted on the shop wall.
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Old 04-02-2017, 09:14 AM   #104
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Attempting some progress this weekend - but as always, hit some snags.

I was reviewing some build threads looking at steering dampers and stumbled across this pic on Big J's build of a front parking brake cable support. See pic from his build below.

I have the two smaller rear ones that are about 3 - 4 inches long, but I don't have a longer one for the front passenger side. That one looks 14 to 16 inches long.

One, am I supposed to have it (assume answer is yes) on a 1972 and two, any ideas on a source? Not shocked I don't have it as the the PO's work included taking the rear drums parking brake lever out from between the shoes, so clearly it didn't have a functioning parking brake.....
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Old 04-02-2017, 09:40 AM   #105
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Yes supposed to have one. A wtb on the parts board should turn up. I'll look here to see if I have one to spare.
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Old 04-02-2017, 09:26 PM   #106
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Yes supposed to have one. A wtb on the parts board should turn up. I'll look here to see if I have one to spare.
This is my parking brake setup based on the parts I have from the PO and the ebrake kit I bought from Inline Tube. Weird that they left the 2 little intermediate line holders but not the long one.
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Old 04-02-2017, 09:54 PM   #107
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Had a good weekend - got almost everything off the to do list for the weekend.

DONE:

** Rear brakes completed, including having to fabricate an adjuster opening in the brake backer plate. I don't think I've posted this before, but when I rebuilt the rear axles, I replaced the stock brake backer plates with an original set of heavy duty brake backer plates. This gives me a set of shoes that are 2 3/4" wide versus 2", so I gained about 30% of stopping power. I decided I wanted to keep rear drums for three reasons - 1) 70% of braking is in the front and with my new slotted rotors and dual caliper Wilwoods, that seemed sufficient. 2) Rear discs move you to a 16" wheel and I wanted to stay with 15" - that backfired when I had to move to 16" wheels due to front clearance. And, 3) Rear discs cost almost triple what this cost me.

** Tie rod cleaned, POR-15'd, tie rod ends installed and mounted

** Fuel tank modified (swapped filler neck from old tank to new tank), repainted - and POR-15'd the straps. Would've mounted it too if I'd had four arms - - or a helper.

NOT DONE:

** Steering damper not installed. I bought a Monroe shock and had some clearance issues - plus I just didn't like the Monroe shock. I am going to try a Bilstein.

Now, some pics.......and A ROLLING CHASIS!
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Old 04-02-2017, 09:56 PM   #108
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Rest of the pics:
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Old 04-03-2017, 10:18 AM   #109
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Looking great Chris. Congrats on getting her rolling! That parking brake cable support looks easy enough to make yourself if you don't come across one.
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Old 04-05-2017, 06:02 AM   #110
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Hey guys - - I am curious if anyone has any advice on what to complete BEFORE putting the tub back on the body. My body guy texted and he is in the final stages - exciting and scary!

So far, here is what I have done:

* Run all brake and fuel lines
* Installed leaf springs, axles and shocks
* Installed engine and trans crossmembers
* Front and Rear brakes
* Wheels and tires
* Parking Brake installed

Still left to do (at least in my mind):

* Fuel tank, sending unit and rubber fuel lines
* Transfer Case and Trans installed
* Drive shafts installed

Then put the tub on


Not sure if there is anything else - tail light wires, etc - but all that seems like it would be easy post tub install. Appreciate any suggestions from guys that have been there, done that.

Thanks!
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Old 04-05-2017, 06:06 AM   #111
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Looking great Chris. Congrats on getting her rolling! That parking brake cable support looks easy enough to make yourself if you don't come across one.
Thanks Banks - feels like I am picking up steam now!

And had an interesting find last week. I was looking at torque converters and discovered a guy here in Cornelius who builds them for racers all over the world. One man shop, super knowledgeable and professional. He is building mine for me and I should have it next week.

The beauty of a local guy is service after the sale - he said if I was in any way unhappy with its stall limit (after I get everything back together), he'd adjust it for me for free. Hard to beat.
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Old 04-05-2017, 09:38 PM   #112
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If they are done, I would install the engine, trans, and transfer case, before the tub.
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Old 04-09-2017, 08:44 PM   #113
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If they are done, I would install the engine, trans, and transfer case, before the tub.
Thanks Turp - No engine yet, so that'll be after the tub goes on. I did get the tank, all rubber hoses for the tank and the wiring done. I got my steering dampener on - - I did go with a 5100 series Bilstein - - fit really well and had the same 9" travel of the Monroe, so I think it'll be fine. Keeping the Monroe around just in case though!

I did tackle the Transfer Case - and got it mostly installed. I ran into a problem with the bolts for the side of the transfer case that connects it to the frame - the 3 piece stabilizer with the rubber bushings. I tried to reinstall the bolts from the PO and they would get tight, then slip the thread and be loose again. So, I went and got new bolts - 9/16-12 and it still felt loose in the thread. Tried to torque it up and same thing - - once it got past snug, it slipped the thread.

So I thought I have the wrong bolt for sure. Bought a 5/8-11 but couldn't get it started. Also picked up some M14 (too small and slid right into the hole) and M16 (wouldn't thread, like the 5/8), and neither worked.

So, I am guessing the 9/16-12 is the right bolt and pitch, but thats not fixing my slipping problem.

Anyone got a recommendation on a fix - - or a confirmation on bolt size? I know alot of guys run without this brace, but I want it on there.

Thanks - - kinda stuck
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Old 04-10-2017, 07:07 AM   #114
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I am guessing you are sure the threads are not stripped.
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Old 04-10-2017, 09:27 AM   #115
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I am guessing you are sure the threads are not stripped.
Well, if the proper bolt size is 9/16, then I am thinking they are stripped, and that I'll need to drill it and tap it (a skill I don't have).
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Old 04-10-2017, 09:52 AM   #116
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Well, if the proper bolt size is 9/16, then I am thinking they are stripped, and that I'll need to drill it and tap it (a skill I don't have).
look down past the bad threads...if there are a few good ones below them...just get a slightly longer bolt so it will catch the good threads...
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Old 04-10-2017, 07:12 PM   #117
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look down past the bad threads...if there are a few good ones below them...just get a slightly longer bolt so it will catch the good threads...
Yeah, tried that. Thanks though.

I think its gonna have to be tapped...unless someone has a better idea.
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Old 04-10-2017, 07:18 PM   #118
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Finally something cool to share - - COLOR!!!!!!

I don't think the pics do it justice.
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Congrats. Looking good. Great color. Well into the fun stuff now.
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Old 04-11-2017, 03:20 PM   #120
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That's a beautiful color!
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Thanks guys - very pleased with how the color turned out.
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Old 04-12-2017, 10:26 PM   #122
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Well, if the proper bolt size is 9/16, then I am thinking they are stripped, and that I'll need to drill it and tap it (a skill I don't have).
Turns out that the bolts are supposed to be 5/8-11. The PO used 9/16-12s and boogered the threads up to the point that only a 9/16s would thread, but not tighten. Oh well, par for the course.

The silver lining is it's fixed now and I met an awesome machinist in the process. A true craftsman.
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Old 04-13-2017, 09:24 AM   #123
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Great job on this, the paint is amazing!

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Old 04-14-2017, 12:52 AM   #124
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Awesome! I bet you are stoked to have the paint finished.
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Old 04-17-2017, 09:25 PM   #125
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are you still looking for the long piece for the e brake?
nice build luv the paint
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