Edelbrock manual choke conversion

[slotard]

I currently have an Edelbrock 1411 on my truck, which came on the truck. 750cfm, electric choke but it's disabled. It's too big for my 350, but runs fine as is. Choke isn't hooked up.

I picked up a 1406 which is the same basic carb but 600cfm which should work a little better... hopefully it'll help with mileage. It was cheap and used, I'm planning on adding a 1" phenolic spacer. I already have a free flowing air filter and have plenty of room to the hood (right now the air filter lid hold-down sticks up probably 3-4" and doesn't hit).

Has anyone converted to manual choke? http://www.summitracing.com/parts/rn...57zRoCEr_w_wcB I see kits like that around but don't know quite how well they work. Would this be the right way to do it? I'd rather have manual than electric, as it doesn't tend to get all that cold here.

[storm9c1]

As far as I could ever tell, the 1405 (manual choke) and 1406 (elec choke) are mechanically the same, except 1405 has the electric choke bits deleted and adds a holder bracket for the manual choke cable. The manual conversion kits come with the holder, but it attaches differently. It should work even though I've never personally done one myself.

1405 setup... The cable "holder" is the bracket you see next to (and curves below) the fuel inlet. The only other thing you need is just the choke bell crank which will be on your carb. Delete everything else. Simple as it gets. I'd be tempted to find and order just the cable holder bracket you see in the pic. Edelbrock also sells the manual cable separately which is a higher quality piece than the Dorman stuff.

[crazy longhorn]

Just my thoughts....I would just run the elect choke? We do (in my spot in Illinois), need to reset the choke , summer to winter. They do heat up quick/open, as compaired to a Holley elct choke....but if set for the season, I see no issues? If you really want the hand choke (your choice), I would use the Edelbrock parts! Just peel them off the 750 that you have Longhorn Oops, I missed that your 750, as an elect choke model.....all the choke parts will bolt back/forth, between the sizes...

[GASoline71]

What's a "choke"?



Gary

[crazy longhorn]

Originally Posted by GASoline71

What's a "choke"?



Gary

Well that there is the part that "strangles' your engine, whether it needs it or not.....its kind of like dropping "Richard the chicken 's" but down the carb? I think Tom on misfits could explain it more funny than I can! longhorn

[storm9c1]

Originally Posted by crazy longhorn

Well that there is the part that "strangles' your engine, whether it needs it or not.....its kind of like dropping "Richard the chicken 's" but down the carb? I think Tom on misfits could explain it more funny than I can! longhorn

Off topic but Tom is my favorite character on all of the Discovery channel... He's a riot. Not sure how reliable he is as an employee, but dang he's entertaining and good at what he does when he does it. When he was done on GMG, it wasn't the same until he showed back up on Misfit Garage.

Back on topic, I wasn't going to try to talk the OP into running the electric choke (this issue is like Democrats and Republicans, Eddy or Holley, Ford or Chevy, etc). But if it were me, I'd run the electric choke (transfer it over from the old one), tune it to your climate, and be done with it. But rather he asked how to hook up a manual choke, and I think using the Eddy manual choke parts fits and looks better than the generic kits.

[GASoline71]

Originally Posted by storm9c1

Back on topic, I wasn't going to try to talk the OP into running the electric choke (this issue is like Democrats and Republicans, Eddy or Holley, Ford or Chevy, etc). But if it were me, I'd run the electric choke (transfer it over from the old one), tune it to your climate, and be done with it. But rather he asked how to hook up a manual choke, and I think using the Eddy manual choke parts fits and looks better than the generic kits.

I've tried 'em all and I just simply hate using chokes. I have removed every single choke out of every single carbed rig I've ever owned. I just pump the crap out of the pedal, turn the key, and then feather the throttle until I get it to idle.

But out of all the chokes I have used... the simple manual cable actuated choke was the best for me. But Thant's me. Even the chokes with heat risers can go wonky after a bit. The manual choke is either on or off... or half way if you want it to be.

Heck, my 1967 C10 I owned almost 30 years ago had a 292 inline in it. When I'd want to "sound" like it had some rumble to it at a stop light or in a parking lot, I'd close the coke about halfway and make it run rough. Now they have camshafts that do the same thing! HAHA! I ended up swapping it out for a 350/350 and that was a fun truck!

Gary

[storm9c1]

I live in a cold climate, so I am fine with electric chokes. I set them rich so I get a good startup... one pump and vrooooom. And they open quickly, usually within a minute or so. Tap the gas, choke off, drive away. Always works for me when tuned right the first time (which is easy).

I never did like the heat risers...too many of those seized up or rusted out. Electric chokes are much more easily managed from lots to none if you want. If your climate changes dramatically, the black plastic case is only a quick turn away from being more aggressive to less aggressive, etc.

Not arguing, just providing multiple perspectives. I like manual chokes too. Can't start an old outboard boat motor without one... even in warm weather!!!

[GASoline71]

No argument here either. We do have cold temps up here in the far left, but winters are not near as long or as cold as where you are. I did have an electric choke on a Carter AFB back in the early 90's on a 1979 GMC K25 with a 350. I got the carb from a buddy and I rebuilt it. Had the choke with it so I wired it up. I must say it worked pretty darn good. But, me being me, after about 2 years I ended up removing the whole assembly. Butterfly and all.

Gary

[crazy longhorn]

Originally Posted by storm9c1

Off topic but Tom is my favorite character on all of the Discovery channel... He's a riot. Not sure how reliable he is as an employee, but dang he's entertaining and good at what he does when he does it. When he was done on GMG, it wasn't the same until he showed back up on Misfit Garage.

Back on topic, I wasn't going to try to talk the OP into running the electric choke (this issue is like Democrats and Republicans, Eddy or Holley, Ford or Chevy, etc). But if it were me, I'd run the electric choke (transfer it over from the old one), tune it to your climate, and be done with it. But rather he asked how to hook up a manual choke, and I think using the Eddy manual choke parts fits and looks better than the generic kits.

I have to agree.....run it how you want to Longhorn

[LostMy65]

I ordered the Edelbrock bracket.
Edelbrock 1494 BRACKET https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KHCOR32..._UaExEbTZZD0XJ
I already have an original cable and knob.
Looks like it should be an easy change.
I'll post back afterwards with pics and how it went.
Here's the carb I'm rebuilding.