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RockTonka · 05-22-2012, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by manimal

That is one sweet truck! I have contemplating one of these to pull my smoker trailer!

Do it!! That would be cool!

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Originally Posted by Dinos63

always the coolest stuff, the work you guys do is so clean and trick i wish we were neighbors

That would be the ticket! Maybe your ability of getting sh#t done in a heartbeat would rub off on us!

Thanks for the props guys...

nuther pic of the drivetrain patiently waiting, I need to get this in...

_Ogre · 05-22-2012, 09:48 PM

drool

jrdecat · 05-24-2012, 10:59 AM

Well you've gone and done it. You've made me feel jealous, inadequate, and a couple of other emotions. This is pretty much the truck that I have been looking for! Gotta have 4x4 and maybe a plow mount for winter time up here in CO. I settled on a '48 1 1/2 ton (http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...58#post5397758) for now, but after seeing this I know there is no way that I can be satisfied. You've got me thinking of posting my new '48 for sale before I even start working on her!

I really liked the idea of the 4bt...whatever happened to that engine?

jimig1 · 05-24-2012, 12:30 PM

That looks sweet can't wait to see it in your truck.

cAlvis165 · 05-24-2012, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RockTonka

nuther pic of the drivetrain patiently waiting, I need to get this in...

Dub_X · 01-04-2013, 12:42 AM

Haven't seen updates on this in a good while

Any at all?

RockTonka · 01-04-2013, 01:21 AM

We just moved to a new place with shop space and have been working on getting everything organized. I kept the truck running to keep it easy to move around, but it's "scheduled" to get worked on soon! I really hope to have a rolling chassis in the next few weeks...months...eventually

Dub_X · 01-04-2013, 02:02 AM

Well, I think we all know how the "eventually" is. Whether it gets done in weeks...months...years...oh hell it'll get done eventually.

Just thought I'd ask. I've run through the whole build several times. Would love to see that thing on that newer chassis with a full 4x4 conversion.

Luther Grimace · 01-04-2013, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by OrrieG

I think its 130" (maybe 133?). Here is what I am thinking, with the bed set up to tilt. But I have seen some nice ones with the flat bed that have been lowered too. Longhorn bed is the correct wheelbase.

Orrie where did you find this picture. I would like to get some more info about that shop.

How do yall think that pinon brake will work? Do you plan on doing a rear disc swap on that 14 bolt?

OrrieG · 01-04-2013, 07:43 PM

I am pretty sure I just did a google search on this site OR on google images and grabbed the first Longhorn that showed up.

1985-GMC · 01-04-2013, 08:32 PM

Here ya go: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...00&postcount=8

RockTonka · 01-05-2013, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Dub_X

Would love to see that thing on that newer chassis with a full 4x4 conversion.

Man, you and I both!

RockTonka · 01-05-2013, 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Luther Grimace

How do yall think that pinon brake will work? Do you plan on doing a rear disc swap on that 14 bolt?

The output brake "should" work fairly well...don't think I'd trust my life to it, but it should hold the truck in place within reason. My boy got all the parts together a year or so ago to do a rear disc set-up on the 14B...we will probably build up another 14B housing for the new rolling chassis and keep the truck driving until the last second.

Couple pics at the new place...

6BT 56 · 01-05-2013, 02:03 PM

I have been watching your build , all your builds from the beginning.

Looking forward to seeing more progress on this one. It that your new Shop in the above pic? After seeing the quality of work that came out of the attached garage you had I 'm sure yiu will live having more space. You can nexer have enuf tho.

Dub_X · 01-05-2013, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RockTonka

Man, you and I both!

I think I may have ya beat on the 4x4 conversion. I'm in the process of converting my '92 shortbed to a Z71. Working on stripping the Z71 frame, then it's gonna get some new parts, get the frame all done, then drop my 350 from my 92 in it, and my 700r4 and transfer case from my 88. HOPE to have it done within the next couple of months.

RockTonka · 01-06-2013, 02:12 AM

Thanks for tuning in 6BT...your build is looking fantastic. You should be running by summer! I'm jealous...hurry and get it running, I need the motivation!

Dub, your build sounds great. Good luck on making your goal of a couple months...I NEVER do!

Dub_X · 01-06-2013, 03:33 AM

I got the frame stripped today, so next step is clean it, sand blast it, paint it, and install what I'm gonna use.
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RANDY COX · 01-06-2013, 08:36 AM

great build guys,gotta love them ole trucks...

Luther Grimace · 01-08-2013, 07:13 PM

Man that truck is awesome. Is there any specific reason yall are moving to the later model frame? It seems like y'all could bolt that Dana 60 under the front of the existing frame and drop the new drivetrain in. This truck is so cool. I don't know if I can state that enough. I like how plain Jane it is right now.

RockTonka · 02-07-2013, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by RANDY COX

great build guys,gotta love them ole trucks...

Thanks!

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Originally Posted by Luther Grimace

Man that truck is awesome. Is there any specific reason yall are moving to the later model frame? It seems like y'all could bolt that Dana 60 under the front of the existing frame and drop the new drivetrain in. This truck is so cool. I don't know if I can state that enough. I like how plain Jane it is right now.

The stock frame has been butchered in the rear and its just easier to adapt a later (stronger) model frame. Thanks for the props!

RockTonka · 02-07-2013, 04:12 AM

So...we've started to work on the new chassis a bit. We torched about 4 ft out of the middle of the frame (the dropped part) and welded it back up. This gives us a later model 4x4 frame with all the suspension/drivetrain mounts we need and a flat center frame section like the original. We also torched out the rivets for the crossmember at the front of the rear springs and flipped it to create clearance for the ram.

We had the frame sandblasted before coating it with about a dozen cans of glossy black.

We're starting to bolt parts to it now...

RockTonka · 02-07-2013, 04:15 AM

How its sitting tonight...

Dub_X · 02-07-2013, 09:34 AM

Right now you're just past me. My frame is still sitting on a rotisserie; not completely cleaned. This wet weather and no real shop has been stopping me.

1985-GMC · 02-07-2013, 12:42 PM

Awesome, that looks really good! This thing is going to be sweet when done!
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Luther Grimace · 02-07-2013, 04:42 PM

Giggidy! Are you worried about the overall width of the 60 compared to the stock 2wd front axle?

05-22-2012, 09:48 PM	#227
_Ogre Registered User Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Motown Posts: 7,670	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project drool __________________ cool, an ogre smiley Ogre's 58 Truk build how to put your truck year and build thread into your signature shop air compressor timer

05-24-2012, 10:59 AM	#228
jrdecat Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 120	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Well you've gone and done it. You've made me feel jealous, inadequate, and a couple of other emotions. This is pretty much the truck that I have been looking for! Gotta have 4x4 and maybe a plow mount for winter time up here in CO. I settled on a '48 1 1/2 ton (http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...58#post5397758) for now, but after seeing this I know there is no way that I can be satisfied. You've got me thinking of posting my new '48 for sale before I even start working on her! I really liked the idea of the 4bt...whatever happened to that engine?

05-24-2012, 12:30 PM	#229
jimig1 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Elk River, MN Posts: 614	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project That looks sweet can't wait to see it in your truck. __________________ 55 2nd series Chevy Pickup 2019 Chevy Equinox(Daily driver) 2011 Chevy Malibu (Wife's car) MSRA Member I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman, "Where's the self-help section?" She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose. -George Carlin

01-04-2013, 12:42 AM	#231
Dub_X Professional Crow Bar Tosser Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Fairview, Missouri [Joplin Area] Posts: 872	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Haven't seen updates on this in a good while Any at all? __________________ Will My Beast "Big Nasty": '92 GMC Sierra K1500 Ext. Cab L31 Swap 4x4 Conversion: 2" Body Lift, 3" Skyjacker Suspension Lift, 9.5" 14-Bolt G80 Rear, 3:73 Gears, 350cid L31 Vortec 5700, 4L60-E Overdrive Automatic My Dad's Beast: CUSTOM '97 Chevrolet Silverado K3500 4-Door Mega Cab Project: 10.5" 14-Bolt G80 Rear, 4:10 Gears, 5.7L 350cid SBC Vortec, 4L80-E Overdrive Automatic "I'd rather PUSH my Chevy than DRIVE your Ford!"

01-04-2013, 01:21 AM	#232
RockTonka Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 1,510	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project We just moved to a new place with shop space and have been working on getting everything organized. I kept the truck running to keep it easy to move around, but it's "scheduled" to get worked on soon! I really hope to have a rolling chassis in the next few weeks...months...eventually __________________ 1958 Chevy 1 ton dually 4X4 dump/flat bed My build thread 1966 "Not-So-Original" Chevy Custom Trim Suburban My Time-Killing Project Truck 1966 GMC Extended cab 1 1/4 ton 4X4 My Son's build thread

01-04-2013, 02:02 AM	#233
Dub_X Professional Crow Bar Tosser Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Fairview, Missouri [Joplin Area] Posts: 872	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Well, I think we all know how the "eventually" is. Whether it gets done in weeks...months...years...oh hell it'll get done eventually. Just thought I'd ask. I've run through the whole build several times. Would love to see that thing on that newer chassis with a full 4x4 conversion. __________________ Will My Beast "Big Nasty": '92 GMC Sierra K1500 Ext. Cab L31 Swap 4x4 Conversion: 2" Body Lift, 3" Skyjacker Suspension Lift, 9.5" 14-Bolt G80 Rear, 3:73 Gears, 350cid L31 Vortec 5700, 4L60-E Overdrive Automatic My Dad's Beast: CUSTOM '97 Chevrolet Silverado K3500 4-Door Mega Cab Project: 10.5" 14-Bolt G80 Rear, 4:10 Gears, 5.7L 350cid SBC Vortec, 4L80-E Overdrive Automatic "I'd rather PUSH my Chevy than DRIVE your Ford!"

01-04-2013, 07:43 PM	#235
OrrieG Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Idaho Posts: 8,800	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project I am pretty sure I just did a google search on this site OR on google images and grabbed the first Longhorn that showed up. __________________ 1959 Chevy Short Fleetside w/ 74 4WD drive train (current project) OrrieG Build Thread 1964 Chevelle Malibu w/ 355-350TH (daily driver) Helpful AD and TF Manual Site Old Car Manual Project

01-04-2013, 08:32 PM	#236
1985-GMC Chevy Enthusiast Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Canyon Lake Texas Posts: 2,024	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Here ya go: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...00&postcount=8 __________________ Tony 1985 GMC K2500 restoration Project: Rust, White & Blue 1989 Chevy R3500 CC Cummins & 4X4 swap some day... 1989 Burb (D60, 14BFF, 12V, NV4500, NP205, 37" tires in progress)

01-05-2013, 02:03 PM	#239
6BT 56 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Coldwater On. Canada Posts: 551	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project I have been watching your build , all your builds from the beginning. Looking forward to seeing more progress on this one. It that your new Shop in the above pic? After seeing the quality of work that came out of the attached garage you had I 'm sure yiu will live having more space. You can nexer have enuf tho. __________________ 56 gmc 4X4 Cummins 5 spd 60F 70R 2005 Ram 3500 DRW cummins 4X4. 2006 Conolift 9/15. 2011 F 350 winter beater New 2018 ram 3500 drw 4x4. Makes my 2005 Look as if it's been running on 4 cyl since new ! My Build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=556908

01-06-2013, 02:12 AM	#241
RockTonka Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 1,510	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Thanks for tuning in 6BT...your build is looking fantastic. You should be running by summer! I'm jealous...hurry and get it running, I need the motivation! Dub, your build sounds great. Good luck on making your goal of a couple months...I NEVER do! __________________ 1958 Chevy 1 ton dually 4X4 dump/flat bed My build thread 1966 "Not-So-Original" Chevy Custom Trim Suburban My Time-Killing Project Truck 1966 GMC Extended cab 1 1/4 ton 4X4 My Son's build thread

01-06-2013, 03:33 AM	#242
Dub_X Professional Crow Bar Tosser Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Fairview, Missouri [Joplin Area] Posts: 872	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project I got the frame stripped today, so next step is clean it, sand blast it, paint it, and install what I'm gonna use. Posted via Mobile Device __________________ Will My Beast "Big Nasty": '92 GMC Sierra K1500 Ext. Cab L31 Swap 4x4 Conversion: 2" Body Lift, 3" Skyjacker Suspension Lift, 9.5" 14-Bolt G80 Rear, 3:73 Gears, 350cid L31 Vortec 5700, 4L60-E Overdrive Automatic My Dad's Beast: CUSTOM '97 Chevrolet Silverado K3500 4-Door Mega Cab Project: 10.5" 14-Bolt G80 Rear, 4:10 Gears, 5.7L 350cid SBC Vortec, 4L80-E Overdrive Automatic "I'd rather PUSH my Chevy than DRIVE your Ford!"

01-06-2013, 08:36 AM	#243
RANDY COX Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: RADFORD, VA Posts: 2,651	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project great build guys,gotta love them ole trucks... __________________ 1964 BBC 402 4x4

01-08-2013, 07:13 PM	#244
Luther Grimace Registered User Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Madison, AL Posts: 380	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Man that truck is awesome. Is there any specific reason yall are moving to the later model frame? It seems like y'all could bolt that Dana 60 under the front of the existing frame and drop the new drivetrain in. This truck is so cool. I don't know if I can state that enough. I like how plain Jane it is right now. __________________ 1955.2 Chevy 3100, 6bt, Getrag G360 5-speed, NP205, Dana 60/70 - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=536540 1992 Chevy K1500 Silverado ECSB 1965 "Crewcab" Chevelle 300 Deluxe - soon to be LBZ Duramax/4L85E powered

02-07-2013, 04:12 AM	#246
RockTonka Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 1,510	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project So...we've started to work on the new chassis a bit. We torched about 4 ft out of the middle of the frame (the dropped part) and welded it back up. This gives us a later model 4x4 frame with all the suspension/drivetrain mounts we need and a flat center frame section like the original. We also torched out the rivets for the crossmember at the front of the rear springs and flipped it to create clearance for the ram. We had the frame sandblasted before coating it with about a dozen cans of glossy black. We're starting to bolt parts to it now... Attached Images __________________ 1958 Chevy 1 ton dually 4X4 dump/flat bed My build thread 1966 "Not-So-Original" Chevy Custom Trim Suburban My Time-Killing Project Truck 1966 GMC Extended cab 1 1/4 ton 4X4 My Son's build thread

02-07-2013, 04:15 AM	#247
RockTonka Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 1,510	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project How its sitting tonight... Attached Images __________________ 1958 Chevy 1 ton dually 4X4 dump/flat bed My build thread 1966 "Not-So-Original" Chevy Custom Trim Suburban My Time-Killing Project Truck 1966 GMC Extended cab 1 1/4 ton 4X4 My Son's build thread



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02-07-2013, 09:34 AM	#248
Dub_X Professional Crow Bar Tosser Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Fairview, Missouri [Joplin Area] Posts: 872	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Right now you're just past me. My frame is still sitting on a rotisserie; not completely cleaned. This wet weather and no real shop has been stopping me. __________________ Will My Beast "Big Nasty": '92 GMC Sierra K1500 Ext. Cab L31 Swap 4x4 Conversion: 2" Body Lift, 3" Skyjacker Suspension Lift, 9.5" 14-Bolt G80 Rear, 3:73 Gears, 350cid L31 Vortec 5700, 4L60-E Overdrive Automatic My Dad's Beast: CUSTOM '97 Chevrolet Silverado K3500 4-Door Mega Cab Project: 10.5" 14-Bolt G80 Rear, 4:10 Gears, 5.7L 350cid SBC Vortec, 4L80-E Overdrive Automatic "I'd rather PUSH my Chevy than DRIVE your Ford!"

02-07-2013, 12:42 PM	#249
1985-GMC Chevy Enthusiast Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Canyon Lake Texas Posts: 2,024	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Awesome, that looks really good! This thing is going to be sweet when done! Posted via Mobile Device __________________ Tony 1985 GMC K2500 restoration Project: Rust, White & Blue 1989 Chevy R3500 CC Cummins & 4X4 swap some day... 1989 Burb (D60, 14BFF, 12V, NV4500, NP205, 37" tires in progress)

02-07-2013, 04:42 PM	#250
Luther Grimace Registered User Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Madison, AL Posts: 380	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Giggidy! Are you worried about the overall width of the 60 compared to the stock 2wd front axle? __________________ 1955.2 Chevy 3100, 6bt, Getrag G360 5-speed, NP205, Dana 60/70 - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=536540 1992 Chevy K1500 Silverado ECSB 1965 "Crewcab" Chevelle 300 Deluxe - soon to be LBZ Duramax/4L85E powered

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