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bigboybodry · 10-17-2011, 10:02 AM

I am looking for pics. of anti-roll setups and roll cage pics. for ideas. The old truck is headed to the chassis shop next and any advise would be greatly appreiated!

djracer · 10-17-2011, 09:52 PM

tons of pics in my build thread.

bigboybodry · 10-17-2011, 10:43 PM

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tons of pics in my build thread.

Thanks Kevin! I have been burning your build thread up. That is a awesome truck! I didn't want to cut the bed up for a anti-roll or shock mount but it looks like I am going to have too to get the travel for the shocks. The classes around here are going to no larger than a 29 10.5 no W's and any size drag radial so I know I need to get some of the flex out of the truck a choose the correct tire. I keep telling myself well Kevin did it not thinking of all the lightening/chassis work you have done on your truck. I have no idea What this thing weighs in at now with all that has been changed. Before I just put it in the chassis man's hands I would like to get some input from some guys that have been there and done that! Thanks for all the help
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djracer · 10-18-2011, 07:06 AM

It could be done without hacking the bed floor if you don't go real low. I am using shorter qa1's on my son's truck and will keep a fake wood floor in tact. I saw a 64-66 model with the shocks mounted in front of the axle that didn't stick up too high. You could always just do a cover over the center section like the lowrider guys.

bigboybodry · 10-19-2011, 06:46 PM

Does anyone have a anti-roll and coil-overs under a stock bed? My truck is lowered and I don't want to cut the bed up. Pics please

vin63 · 10-19-2011, 09:10 PM

How narrow will your rearend housing and frame rails be?

bigboybodry · 10-19-2011, 11:05 PM

They are stock both stock
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moggey01 · 10-20-2011, 11:07 AM

I am doing a coilover with a anti roll bar , depending on how low the truck will determine the bed floor. I am using a 19" Lamb[Koni] shock in front of the rearend housing. My floor will be cut. I will use a Rick Jones anti roll set up, and a wish bone to center the housing. I have longer shocks and will have the upper mounts higher in the truck. If I had to keep the bed floor in I think I could it I think, there is room between the frame and the bottom side of the bed. I have to cut the bed for tubs , and the roll bar connects to the frame in the rear anyway so I dont care about the floor. I dont have pics because I have to wait to get started on the chassis till December or January.

bigboybodry · 10-20-2011, 11:17 AM

keep me in mind I plan on doing something similar and was looking for some help before I took on the challenge. Thinking now to just let a chassis man handle it.

vin63 · 10-20-2011, 12:01 PM

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They are stock both stock
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This is what I did with my stock width frame rails. I cut out the intermediate crossmember and welded in a tube to house a splined torsion bar (5/8") I had leftover from a customer project. I fabricated the aluminum arms and used end links with spherical rod ends.

Close up of arms...

This allowed me to drop the rear very low without having to alter my bed, etc. You can use different thickness torsion bars...just use the corresponding housing tube diameter, etc.

bigsnookmaster · 10-20-2011, 02:39 PM

Here's a couple pics of my front mount coil-over setup, but no anti roll. I.m curious about the anti roll setup and how it works.

KQQL IT · 10-20-2011, 03:01 PM

Very cool. Id like to do that on my 73 just in back of the axle.
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bigboybodry · 10-20-2011, 04:48 PM

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Here's a couple pics of my front mount coil-over setup, but no anti roll. I.m curious about the anti roll setup and how it works.

It preloads the suspension so that the distance from the frame to the rear end stay the same or near the same at all the time. It helps with side to side body roll during hard launches so you don't get that car/truck picking up the left front tire 2 +/- foot with the right front still on the ground.

vin63 · 10-20-2011, 05:26 PM

That's exactly correct. If you were running a narrowed frame/rearend housing application, this is what I was going to recommend since this is in the racing forum. I run this Jerry Bickel unit in my Super Gas car. It is a bit bulky and requires some vertical space between the frame rails and the reared housing, but it is infinitely adjustable.

bigboybodry · 10-20-2011, 05:59 PM

I was trying to tie the anti-roll and shock mount in together because I don't have much space. I am not even sure that it can be done?

bigboybodry · 10-20-2011, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by vin63

That's exactly correct. If you were running a narrowed frame/rearend housing application, this is what I was going to recommend since this is in the racing forum. I run this Jerry Bickel unit in my Super Gas car. It is a bit bulky and requires some vertical space between the frame rails and the reared housing, but it is infinitely adjustable.

How wide is it? Maybe try and build a shock mount from the frame rail to the
anti-roll on each side. etc.... make a extension from the frame to the ani-roll to make a shock mount

vin63 · 10-20-2011, 06:30 PM

IIRC, the tubing for the torsion bar housing comes in a 40" length to provide enough length for most applications. But, for a stock frame application, I couldn't see around using a through-frame tube for the torsion bar housing since there isn't enough frame kick up. I ended up also leveraging it as a replacement crossmember. For an upper shock mount, you will have to use a littler thicker wall tubing, but can be done. TCI (Total Cost Involved) now offers their '28-'31 Ford chassis with this type of through-frame torsion bar set up.

bigboybodry · 10-20-2011, 06:59 PM

Thanks for the info. I am going to draw something up tonight and I'll post it up to see what you all think.

djracer · 10-20-2011, 08:32 PM

Man these sexy trailing arms are killin me. I don't know if I should buy some or build some. Vin 63's race car anti roll looks like mine from S&W.

djracer · 10-22-2011, 12:11 AM

I was wrong My parachute mount came from S&W. Here is where my anti roll came from.
http://www.appliedracing.com/anti-ro...ional-kit.html

WhiteStar · 10-22-2011, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by bigboybodry

Does anyone have a anti-roll and coil-overs under a stock bed? My truck is lowered and I don't want to cut the bed up. Pics please

Ive got coil overs and anti roll kit from autofab I believe,ill try and find or take a beter picture.

nxtruck · 10-22-2011, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by bigboybodry

How wide is it? Maybe try and build a shock mount from the frame rail to the
anti-roll on each side. etc.... make a extension from the frame to the ani-roll to make a shock mount

This one is very close to what I'm running. I did get it to fit under the stock bed floor, though. I believe the links on mine are a little shorter than the ones in this pic.

nxtruck · 10-22-2011, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by vin63

That's exactly correct. If you were running a narrowed frame/rearend housing application, this is what I was going to recommend since this is in the racing forum. I run this Jerry Bickel unit in my Super Gas car. It is a bit bulky and requires some vertical space between the frame rails and the reared housing, but it is infinitely adjustable.

Oops. Quoted the wrong reply. This is the pic I was referring to.

Street Smart · 10-31-2011, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by djracer

tons of pics in my build thread.

post up a link, I`d love to see it.

djracer · 10-31-2011, 09:43 PM

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=151718

10-17-2011, 10:02 AM	#1
bigboybodry Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Florence,Mississippi Posts: 301	"Tuff man bars" and anti-roll pics I am looking for pics. of anti-roll setups and roll cage pics. for ideas. The old truck is headed to the chassis shop next and any advise would be greatly appreiated! __________________ first track pass with the new motor on motor http://youtu.be/YgrJaEF_TaQ

10-17-2011, 09:52 PM	#2
djracer Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Wetumpka, Al, U.S. Posts: 8,891	Re: "Tuff man bars" and anti-roll pics tons of pics in my build thread. __________________ Kevin Special Thanks to All who have helped on the TRUCK! My Pass Time Show http://s129.photobucket.com/albums/p...Chapter1-0.mp4 So Far my best Times are: Motor only: 6.44 1/8 @ 104.13 10.39 1/4 @ 125.83 Nitrous Times: 5.785 1/8 @ 118.65 with a 1.336 60ft 9.168 1/4 @ 142.58 with a 250 shot dead out of the hole!

10-18-2011, 07:06 AM	#4
djracer Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Wetumpka, Al, U.S. Posts: 8,891	Re: "Tuff man bars" and anti-roll pics It could be done without hacking the bed floor if you don't go real low. I am using shorter qa1's on my son's truck and will keep a fake wood floor in tact. I saw a 64-66 model with the shocks mounted in front of the axle that didn't stick up too high. You could always just do a cover over the center section like the lowrider guys. __________________ Kevin Special Thanks to All who have helped on the TRUCK! My Pass Time Show http://s129.photobucket.com/albums/p...Chapter1-0.mp4 So Far my best Times are: Motor only: 6.44 1/8 @ 104.13 10.39 1/4 @ 125.83 Nitrous Times: 5.785 1/8 @ 118.65 with a 1.336 60ft 9.168 1/4 @ 142.58 with a 250 shot dead out of the hole!

10-19-2011, 06:46 PM	#5
bigboybodry Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Florence,Mississippi Posts: 301	Re: "Tuff man bars" and anti-roll pics Does anyone have a anti-roll and coil-overs under a stock bed? My truck is lowered and I don't want to cut the bed up. Pics please __________________ first track pass with the new motor on motor http://youtu.be/YgrJaEF_TaQ

10-19-2011, 09:10 PM	#6
vin63 It's Better With Nitro Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Chino Hills, CA Posts: 2,261	Re: "Tuff man bars" and anti-roll pics How narrow will your rearend housing and frame rails be? __________________ 1963 C-10: Deluxe-optioned cab, shortbed, fleetside Pontiac 462 ci, Kauffman D-Port alum. heads 4L80E, narrowed sheetmetal Ford 9-inch Tubular front and rear suspension Custom 6-piston front disc and 4-piston rear disc brakes

10-19-2011, 11:05 PM	#7
bigboybodry Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Florence,Mississippi Posts: 301	Re: "Tuff man bars" and anti-roll pics They are stock both stock Posted via Mobile Device __________________ first track pass with the new motor on motor http://youtu.be/YgrJaEF_TaQ

10-20-2011, 11:07 AM	#8
moggey01 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Houston Texas Posts: 315	Re: "Tuff man bars" and anti-roll pics I am doing a coilover with a anti roll bar , depending on how low the truck will determine the bed floor. I am using a 19" Lamb[Koni] shock in front of the rearend housing. My floor will be cut. I will use a Rick Jones anti roll set up, and a wish bone to center the housing. I have longer shocks and will have the upper mounts higher in the truck. If I had to keep the bed floor in I think I could it I think, there is room between the frame and the bottom side of the bed. I have to cut the bed for tubs , and the roll bar connects to the frame in the rear anyway so I dont care about the floor. I dont have pics because I have to wait to get started on the chassis till December or January.

10-20-2011, 11:17 AM	#9
bigboybodry Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Florence,Mississippi Posts: 301	Re: "Tuff man bars" and anti-roll pics keep me in mind I plan on doing something similar and was looking for some help before I took on the challenge. Thinking now to just let a chassis man handle it. Attached Images __________________ first track pass with the new motor on motor http://youtu.be/YgrJaEF_TaQ Last edited by bigboybodry; 10-20-2011 at 11:22 AM.

10-20-2011, 02:39 PM	#11
bigsnookmaster Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: St.Petersburg,Fl Posts: 1,267	Re: "Tuff man bars" and anti-roll pics Here's a couple pics of my front mount coil-over setup, but no anti roll. I.m curious about the anti roll setup and how it works. Attached Images __________________ greg http://community.webshots.com/user/68406Stepside

10-20-2011, 03:01 PM	#12
KQQL IT At the body shop. Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Land of fruits and nuts. Posts: 5,130	Re: "Tuff man bars" and anti-roll pics Very cool. Id like to do that on my 73 just in back of the axle. Posted via Mobile Device __________________ " That didnt make it any newer " " Dont antique the equipment "

10-20-2011, 05:26 PM	#14
vin63 It's Better With Nitro Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Chino Hills, CA Posts: 2,261	Re: "Tuff man bars" and anti-roll pics That's exactly correct. If you were running a narrowed frame/rearend housing application, this is what I was going to recommend since this is in the racing forum. I run this Jerry Bickel unit in my Super Gas car. It is a bit bulky and requires some vertical space between the frame rails and the reared housing, but it is infinitely adjustable. __________________ 1963 C-10: Deluxe-optioned cab, shortbed, fleetside Pontiac 462 ci, Kauffman D-Port alum. heads 4L80E, narrowed sheetmetal Ford 9-inch Tubular front and rear suspension Custom 6-piston front disc and 4-piston rear disc brakes

10-20-2011, 05:59 PM	#15
bigboybodry Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Florence,Mississippi Posts: 301	Re: "Tuff man bars" and anti-roll pics I was trying to tie the anti-roll and shock mount in together because I don't have much space. I am not even sure that it can be done? __________________ first track pass with the new motor on motor http://youtu.be/YgrJaEF_TaQ

10-20-2011, 06:30 PM	#17
vin63 It's Better With Nitro Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Chino Hills, CA Posts: 2,261	Re: "Tuff man bars" and anti-roll pics IIRC, the tubing for the torsion bar housing comes in a 40" length to provide enough length for most applications. But, for a stock frame application, I couldn't see around using a through-frame tube for the torsion bar housing since there isn't enough frame kick up. I ended up also leveraging it as a replacement crossmember. For an upper shock mount, you will have to use a littler thicker wall tubing, but can be done. TCI (Total Cost Involved) now offers their '28-'31 Ford chassis with this type of through-frame torsion bar set up. __________________ 1963 C-10: Deluxe-optioned cab, shortbed, fleetside Pontiac 462 ci, Kauffman D-Port alum. heads 4L80E, narrowed sheetmetal Ford 9-inch Tubular front and rear suspension Custom 6-piston front disc and 4-piston rear disc brakes

10-20-2011, 06:59 PM	#18
bigboybodry Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Florence,Mississippi Posts: 301	Re: "Tuff man bars" and anti-roll pics Thanks for the info. I am going to draw something up tonight and I'll post it up to see what you all think. __________________ first track pass with the new motor on motor http://youtu.be/YgrJaEF_TaQ

10-20-2011, 08:32 PM	#19
djracer Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Wetumpka, Al, U.S. Posts: 8,891	Re: "Tuff man bars" and anti-roll pics Man these sexy trailing arms are killin me. I don't know if I should buy some or build some. Vin 63's race car anti roll looks like mine from S&W. __________________ Kevin Special Thanks to All who have helped on the TRUCK! My Pass Time Show http://s129.photobucket.com/albums/p...Chapter1-0.mp4 So Far my best Times are: Motor only: 6.44 1/8 @ 104.13 10.39 1/4 @ 125.83 Nitrous Times: 5.785 1/8 @ 118.65 with a 1.336 60ft 9.168 1/4 @ 142.58 with a 250 shot dead out of the hole!



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10-22-2011, 12:11 AM	#20
djracer Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Wetumpka, Al, U.S. Posts: 8,891	Re: "Tuff man bars" and anti-roll pics I was wrong My parachute mount came from S&W. Here is where my anti roll came from. http://www.appliedracing.com/anti-ro...ional-kit.html __________________ Kevin Special Thanks to All who have helped on the TRUCK! My Pass Time Show http://s129.photobucket.com/albums/p...Chapter1-0.mp4 So Far my best Times are: Motor only: 6.44 1/8 @ 104.13 10.39 1/4 @ 125.83 Nitrous Times: 5.785 1/8 @ 118.65 with a 1.336 60ft 9.168 1/4 @ 142.58 with a 250 shot dead out of the hole!

10-31-2011, 09:43 PM	#25
djracer Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Wetumpka, Al, U.S. Posts: 8,891	Re: "Tuff man bars" and anti-roll pics http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=151718 __________________ Kevin Special Thanks to All who have helped on the TRUCK! My Pass Time Show http://s129.photobucket.com/albums/p...Chapter1-0.mp4 So Far my best Times are: Motor only: 6.44 1/8 @ 104.13 10.39 1/4 @ 125.83 Nitrous Times: 5.785 1/8 @ 118.65 with a 1.336 60ft 9.168 1/4 @ 142.58 with a 250 shot dead out of the hole!

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