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Old 10-07-2020, 08:56 PM   #26
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That's nice of him!
Yep, offered to buy them but he said I could have them. He swapped to 5 lug rear axles and didnt need them any more. Will not go to waist, saves me a couple hundred bucks I can use on other items to put into the truck. His truck looks really good as well, baby blue and white paint.
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Old 10-09-2020, 01:35 PM   #27
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Picked up the 30 spline axles and carrier from the clube member today. They are 1966 C10 30 spline axles in really good shape and a posi carrier that he gave me with the ring and pinion 3.73's.

Also picked up my pcm that has been tuned to run my engine standalone. Got the vin pulled from it and it did turn out to be a 2003 Tahoe with L59 flex fuel.

Seller said around 150k miles which I was expecting to be incorrect, and it was vin came back with aution on Tahoe and it had 344k miles. But it was running and listed in copart aution as "Engine Atart Program"

No plans to rebuild it, will drop it in and get everything working, when it does give out I will replace it with a re-manufactured short/long block.

It could last several years in my truck or just a few minutes. So will be saving for a long-block while I am installing everything and just hope for the best for now.
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Old 10-09-2020, 02:10 PM   #28
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Dang, that sucks on the mileage. It could be that the engine had been replaced at some point, but I'm not sure if there's a way that you could find out
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Picked up the 30 spline axles and carrier from the clube member today. They are 1966 C10 30 spline axles in really good shape and a posi carrier that he gave me with the ring and pinion 3.73's.

Also picked up my pcm that has been tuned to run my engine standalone. Got the vin pulled from it and it did turn out to be a 2003 Tahoe with L59 flex fuel.

Seller said around 150k miles which I was expecting to be incorrect, and it was vin came back with aution on Tahoe and it had 344k miles. But it was running and listed in copart aution as "Engine Atart Program"

No plans to rebuild it, will drop it in and get everything working, when it does give out I will replace it with a re-manufactured short/long block.

It could last several years in my truck or just a few minutes. So will be saving for a long-block while I am installing everything and just hope for the best for now.
Sounds like a good plan. Get it up & running w/a better bullet for V.2.
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Old 10-09-2020, 09:31 PM   #30
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Dang, that sucks on the mileage. It could be that the engine had been replaced at some point, but I'm not sure if there's a way that you could find out
Valves, oil pan and the rest of what I saw doesnt look like almost 350k. But maybe they just took care of it and changed oil regularly etc. At 350k miles I woild have expected a ton more sludge in oil and and buildup on valves.

Hoping its a lower mileage engine than the odometer showed in auction listing,no way to really tell since the block doesnt have the vin stamped anywhere on it I could find.

Either way, just ordered a psi harness and trans cross-member for it today and will order my headers later this week. Going to get the Speed Engineering long-tubes, just trying to figure out if I need the 10 or 12" plug wire set they offer. My stock wires are a tad over 10" from end to end for the manifolds it had.


Ready to get it in the truck and see how it runs.
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Old 10-12-2020, 08:52 AM   #31
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Dug out a radiator I had for my last project, is for a 1998 C1500 5.7L 2wd. Going to test fit it and see if it will fit in my truck, going to look and see if I could mount a shroud on it and just use the mechanical fan on the motor as well.

Been looking at radiators and the ls swap ones are around $600, if this one fits will find a fan setup that fits and change over to e-fans later on.

....It doesnt fit, its about 8" too wide to fit between inner fenders. Guess I need to decide on a swap radiator that I can upgrade with e-fans later...or just buy the whole setup with fans, do not have the stock radiator to use.


Found this one I am going to look into

http://www.speedcooling.com/1963-196...um-Shroud.html
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Old 10-15-2020, 08:03 PM   #32
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Look on Summit for BeCool boneyard LS swap radiators. I had to make a couple mounts for it but fit great. Older t-bird fan off of rock auto fit prefect on the radiator as well. I can look up the part numbers of you like. Radiator was around $250, fan was $70ish.
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Old 10-28-2020, 11:49 AM   #33
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Look on Summit for BeCool boneyard LS swap radiators. I had to make a couple mounts for it but fit great. Older t-bird fan off of rock auto fit prefect on the radiator as well. I can look up the part numbers of you like. Radiator was around $250, fan was $70ish.
I will check it out, will be ordering one in a few weeks.

Just took my rear end stuff to the re-builder, need ring/pinion said mine would work but be noisy from the pitting, the axle had one pretty good pit that he said would kill a bearing at speed....

So ordered a new set of moser axles, May have gotten away with a repair bearing but no reason to skimp now I guess, $275 for new axles added on.

Luckily the carrier/spider gears and clutch pack in the unit were in great shape so can re-use them.

The axles and ring and pinion added a pretty good chunk to the rear end rebuild, just about doubled the cost.
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Old 10-28-2020, 11:53 AM   #34
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Test fit the motor last week and the Speed Engineering LS swap headers fit beautifully. Had to cut out the manual trans cross member a couple days ago for them to fully fit and don't have pics of the motor in it and the cross member out but you get the idea from the pics.

Close to 1.5-2" of space between header and frame.

Going to wait until I get the trans on the motor before I put the motor back in for hopefully the final time.
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They are nice looking headers. Clearance does look good so that's nice as well.
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Old 10-28-2020, 09:32 PM   #36
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Booster/master came in today so went ahead and got my brake limes finished. Need to get rear end done and back in the truck before I can bleed them.

Think I need to get the motor in my truck and loosen the suspension and let it squat under the weight and tighten everything back down. Installed all suspension/steering with no motpr in truck. Now even with 2.5" drop spindles it seems to sit higher than I would expect, maybe just the weight of the notor will settle it.

If not will put in some 2" drop coils as well.
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Re: 1964 C10 fleet side swb

Having the engine out makes the truck look like an old gasser. On the suspension, the ball joints, tie rods, and other steering stuff is ok to torque down without weight on it. It's the control arm bushings that you want the full weight on before you torque them down, especially with poly or delrin stuff.

Your truck is lookin' good! I like the way the brake lines are routed away from where a lot of engine heat sits
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Having the engine out makes the truck look like an old gasser. On the suspension, the ball joints, tie rods, and other steering stuff is ok to torque down without weight on it. It's the control arm bushings that you want the full weight on before you torque them down, especially with poly or delrin stuff.

Your truck is lookin' good! I like the way the brake lines are routed away from where a lot of engine heat sits
Control arms will definitely need to be loosened and re-tightened with the engine in. I think the fender bottom is higher than before the engine was in it and stock height.

Hoping to get a 2" gap between fender/tire, right now its closer to 5".
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There's a big difference in height with the engine out vs. in.
Post #37 of my build thread shows my truck without an engine in it. Post #67 is how it looks with full weight in the engine bay

If you replaced the springs, they will settle a little bit as well
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Rear end dropped off for a full rebuild, only part I am using is the posi carrier I was thankfully gifted.

Think I will order fuel tank setup and transmission when I get the rear end back. Picked up some ot this month and would like to start making more progress.

Still hoping to start it before spring and maybe have it yard driving.
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Look on Summit for BeCool boneyard LS swap radiators. I had to make a couple mounts for it but fit great. Older t-bird fan off of rock auto fit prefect on the radiator as well. I can look up the part numbers of you like. Radiator was around $250, fan was $70ish.

Found the Be Cool 35200 radiator that looks to be the same dimensions as stock. What fan did you go with for it? I am reading a 2400-2500cfm fan for a V8 and a shroud.
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I looked up my orders. Be Cool 35202 and a 1996 T-bird fan off Rock Auto. PN F4SZ8C607D or 620950 is an alternate number. You will also need connector HP4540 that mates to the fan. I have a 5.3, and my engine temps run around 180-185* driving around. My fan rarely kicks on with this radiator. There is no trans cooler so you will have to run an external. I think mine is a Hayden unit.
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New shocks came in today, went with the belltech street performance shock's for 4-5" drop. Be awhile before they get tested out but be nice to have them installed. Should bave rear end back from rebuilder next week and can finish up brakes fully. Then need to order a rransmission and then a boyd tank.

Still deciding whether to use the stealth 340 they offer or search out a hanger/pump that will work with that tank.
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Nice work so far!
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Old 11-18-2020, 08:29 PM   #45
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Still impatiently waiting on my rear end to be finished up, had to order a new yoke for the 66 carrier.

Going friday to pick up a used 4L60e and try my luck on it. If nothing else and needs a rebuild its cheaper than the core charge at the rebuilder. And I can get moving on fuel lines, trans lines, wire harness, drive shaft measurements, and stuff that will come with having engine/trans in truck.
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Should have looked over that transmission a little more, it's just going to have to be my core.

Looks like the drain pan nut has come off so would need a new pan, bell housing was cracked at the sight window which isnt a big deal. But I did not even notice it did not have a torque converter in it when I offered to buy it.

So this will be my core for my new trans I will have done.
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Worked on brake pedal a little today picked up a pedal from a 96 c1500 from the junkyard today. Going to weld the wider pedal on my stock pedal arm and maybe bend the arm to left a little at the end and try to get it moved back towards the firewall some.

Hoping Boyds runs a sale on tanks this year for Thanksgiving, going to be ordering my tank setup next week either way though.

Decided to go with the complete setup from them instead of piecing it togethor.

Found a converter for the trans and going to hit up junkyard again for a filler tube/stick and maybe a new trans pan.
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Trans cleaned up and got tq converter put in and a corvette servo put in it. Waiting on cooler line fittings now and a new energy suspension mount for it. Then will get it bolted to motor and see about getting trans crossmember installed with it.
Need to find the double sided studs for the trand tube, cannot find them online....made my own.
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Have everything I think I need to install motor/trans this week hopefully. Trans and motor have all new seals I could think to replace. Have my trans cross member and new trans mount and cooler line fitting are installed.

Going to mess around with the tq converter a little more and make sure it is correct for the trans, its out a of 05 Avalanche, which all the parts store list to work with an 03 Silverado transmission. Will not make a full spin when pushed all the way in trans like I think it should be, may need to pull it out a little and try, may be rubbing pump.

Went ahead and ordered my tank, went with the No Limit 19 ga tank setup with pump and everything ready to install.

Local Classic Chevy shop recommended it over the Boyd setup which he runs in his 68 C10. So hopefully will have a tank to install in the next week or two and my rear end back from the re-builder this week "fingers crossed".

Going to hit up parts yard for a drive shaft and have it shortened/balanced for my truck.
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Got the call, my rear end is done, all new except housing and posi carrier. Going to get it tomorrow. Need to hit parts yardagain for a drive shaft or atleast a yoke. No luck on drive shaft last week and didntgrab a yoke.

Going to hit up V6 S10s and blazers this time. All the full size truck shafts were gone or damaged from forklifts.
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