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1971ChevyTruck · 02-17-2008, 06:59 PM

Okay heres the story. I went to put my daughters booster seat in my truck and my wife freaked out on me. She doesn't like the fact that I only have a lap belt to secure the seat. Does any one know of an add on harness or something? Whats the best way to secure those thing with only a lap belt??

DavesRide · 02-17-2008, 08:06 PM

I had to either put my five year in a car seat with a three point harness held by lap belt or a three point seat belt. I found a S10 retractor and buckle at the junk yard and only had to customize the outer floor mount. The other two points have proper mounting holes. I just thown in his booster seat and buckle him in and off we go.

crews · 02-17-2008, 08:09 PM

Child booster seats are designed to be secured with a lap belt. If you use a shoulder harness, you have to use the metal adapter to keep the seat belt from trying to twist the safety seat into the middle of the vehicle.

When my kids were little, they were ALWAYS in their booster seat in the middle seat with just a lap belt. ( a trick to make sure they are good and tight, is to put your knee in the seat when cinching the lap belt so it is good and snug.)

As long as you have the lap belt snug and the seat isn't moving around, there is no safety issue with just using a lap belt. Just make sure you use the restraining harness in the booster seat for the kid!!

Your wife should have no issue as long as the seat is secure.

Luvlegs · 02-17-2008, 08:13 PM

Most of the child seats, when installed in the rear seat, facing the rear, are only attached with a lap belt - in the center is safer to me than at either door. IF the seat is facing forward, the child seats usually have a belt off the top that connects to either a spot in the back window behind the seat top or down to the crack in the seats. IF you want to make sure all is good and get a blessing, take it to a fire house and get their advice.

caminokid · 02-17-2008, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Luvlegs

Most of the child seats, when installed in the rear seat, facing the rear, are only attached with a lap belt - in the center is safer to me than at either door. IF the seat is facing forward, the child seats usually have a belt off the top that connects to either a spot in the back window behind the seat top or down to the crack in the seats. IF you want to make sure all is good and get a blessing, take it to a fire house and get their advice.

This is what I was thinking. In a car kids are to be in the back seat according to some state laws. If she continues to get crazy about the truck seat belt...throw a fit when she is using the rear lap belt in her car!

DavesRide · 02-17-2008, 08:47 PM

To be sure I called the Highway Patrol Headquarters. The kids have to be in a three point harness whether it be in the car seat or just a booster seat with car belt here in good ol' Missouri until they are at least the age of seven or seventy pounds. It may be 8 and 80 but we aren't close yet either way.

1971ChevyTruck · 02-17-2008, 08:54 PM

The booster seat we have is made to have a shoulder bet and lap belt. In the instructions it says that if you just use a lap belt they can fly right out of the darn thing. I have tried to be a smart azz and put one of my racing four point harnesses in the truck...we'll see what she says about that..

Huck · 02-17-2008, 09:20 PM

Simply take the time to explain the facts to your wife as most women don't understand mechanical stuff. Show her the location of the gas tank in the cab, show her the filler neck pertruding out the drivers side as a kind of gas vapor wick in the case of an accident!! Then show her the many safety features of the truck like the deeply padded dash, the lack of dangerous air bags, etc. By the time you're done, you wouldn't have to worry about taking your daughter in the truck---or for that matter, your wife, dog, cat, or any other living thing!
Actually these trucks are not very safe for a child and I would be caucious as they really are a fire bomb waiting for an accident.!!!!!!

Up to XX lbs and XX inches, a child must be in a rear facing seat that can mount with a stock lap belt. Over that size, you can use a front facing seat but most have a top clasp the secures the seat from flipping forward. You could probably clip the seat to the back of your bench seat but have no clue as to it's ability to handle an accident.

brad_man_72 · 02-17-2008, 09:56 PM

duct tape cild safety seat to roof of truck. no problem!

caminokid · 02-17-2008, 10:14 PM

God no! Dont show her where the gas tank is! She will flip out then!

68gmsee · 02-17-2008, 10:32 PM

How in the world did we survived our childhood in the years before all the laws and regulations....

I guess those country roads weren't as full of maniacs driving crazy...

I remember driving down the road in the back of dad's pickup with my little brothers all seated on the bed...

Dad's only requirement: Stay seated on the floor bed! If we stood up, he would stop the truck and we would have to ride in front with him and mom...

alfeefish · 02-17-2008, 11:00 PM

What year s10 seatbelt will fit our trucks?

89 crew · 02-17-2008, 11:41 PM

I asked a count sheriff about the booster seats just the other day. But let me start at the beginning. One late night while scouring the net I found an article by the national highway safety council. The article was about Child booster seats and lap belts. according to the article when a child is in a wreck with just a lap belt they are much more likely to be injured if they are in a booster! The research came back as the best action if all the vehicle has is a lap belt is forget the booster seat! My question to the Sheriff was what should I do? I have not been driving my Cadillac as a family car because it doesn't have shoulder belts, and if I follow what the research says he would be writing me a ticket for no safety seats. He told me I need to get a print out of that article and keep it in my car, forget the booster seats and show the article to any officer that has a problem. He said the Sheriffs department wouldn't bother anyone unless the kids were up jumping around the car. Now this was just one cop and I haven't had the opportunity to check with all the other law enforcement around this area. In reality the booster seat laws are another area where legislation has gone crazy.

Premium72 · 02-17-2008, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 68gmsee

How in the world did we survived our childhood in the years before all the laws and regulations....

I guess those country roads weren't as full of maniacs driving crazy...

I remember driving down the road in the back of dad's pickup with my little brothers all seated on the bed...

Dad's only requirement: Stay seated on the floor bed! If we stood up, he would stop the truck and we would have to ride in front with him and mom...

becuase people werent Fughn safety Nazi's like they are today. Because one JackA$s didnt think an messed up 10 years ago the entire population of the country has to pay cuase the goverments got no balls when someone gets all sue happy. the lap belt is more than enough to secure the seat. Just be safe and lets hope all the other a$Shole$ on the road are as well. ,

odog · 02-18-2008, 01:36 AM

My girls' boosters have a strap that goes from the top back of their chair over the back of the seat and clips to a sturdy anchor point on the floor of the cab. I use the lap belt and just cinch it down with me knees, after I cinch the strap in the back.

corn · 02-18-2008, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Huck

Simply take the time to explain the facts to your wife as most women don't understand mechanical stuff. Show her the location of the gas tank in the cab, show her the filler neck pertruding out the drivers side as a kind of gas vapor wick in the case of an accident!! Then show her the many safety features of the truck like the deeply padded dash, the lack of dangerous air bags, etc. By the time you're done, you wouldn't have to worry about taking your daughter in the truck---or for that matter, your wife, dog, cat, or any other living thing!
Actually these trucks are not very safe for a child and I would be caucious as they really are a fire bomb waiting for an accident.!!!!!!

Up to XX lbs and XX inches, a child must be in a rear facing seat that can mount with a stock lap belt. Over that size, you can use a front facing seat but most have a top clasp the secures the seat from flipping forward. You could probably clip the seat to the back of your bench seat but have no clue as to it's ability to handle an accident.

If one of these trucks blew up everytime someone said they did, there wouldnt be any trucks left. Never seen one explode yet. Do vehicles get broadsided more than rear ended? Those blazer tanks look a little dangerous to me way back there by the bumper.

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Premium72 · 02-18-2008, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by corn

If one of these trucks blew up everytime someone said they did, there wouldnt be any trucks left. Never seen one explode yet. Do vehicles get broadsided more than rear ended? Those blazer tanks look a little dangerous to me way back there by the bumper.

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+a billion..

Longhorn Man · 02-18-2008, 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DavesRide

To be sure I called the Highway Patrol Headquarters. The kids have to be in a three point harness whether it be in the car seat or just a booster seat with car belt here in good ol' Missouri until they are at least the age of seven or seventy pounds. It may be 8 and 80 but we aren't close yet either way.

No state, county, city, or local ordinance is permitted to require you to update ANYTHING on your car. There are federal laws in place to PROTECT you... otherwise, they'd have us installing air bags and ABS. It is actually against federal law to upgrade safety equipment unless it is designed specificly for said aplication. But no one understands that, nor enforces it, till some one gets hurt rom your upgrades, then the lawyers bring it up.

DavesRide · 02-18-2008, 05:13 AM

Longhorn Man, I am not disagreeing with you but my truck did not come with seat belts. The PO put in a drivers lap belt. I can tell by fasteners it is not original. In the state of Missouri, children under a certain weight and age gotta be in seatbelt of some form or another, regardless. I have read the legal pages to find out and I neither want to get a ticket or have my precious cargo go out the windshield when some idiot pulls out in front of me. My son totally digs riding in the old truck and hangin' his arm out the window just like good ol' Dad. It doesn't have to have seat belts, but he can't ride without one and I don't like to be without mine either. Riding without my belt on kinda feels like walking outside naked to me. Well maybe like grinding without saftey glasses on. I hear what you are saying though. David

Longhorn Man · 02-18-2008, 05:21 AM

your truck 'originally' came with 2 seat belts if its the one in your avatar. All 67 - 72 trucks came with a seat belt left and right, unless it was opted with only one bucket seat, then it only came with the belt on the left.
I agree on not butting heads with the local boys in blue, even if you are right, it just causes problems later.

1971ChevyTruck · 02-18-2008, 05:54 AM

Wow never had so many replies to a single post...thanks for everyone sharing their feelings and information...all of this because of my wife...

I called Illinois State police today...they said in Illinois a lap belt won't cut it for a booster seat unless its a booster seat with a 5 point harness and you have that secured with the lap belt and the strap on the back of the car seat. The booster seats with the 5 point harness take up too much room on the bench seat. So here are the two options I found..I found a cheap four point harness and use the simpson racing booster or I am going to suck it up and use the simpson racing booster with the 5 point harness. Either way my daughter is excited, I make the wife happy and its the only way I keep the pink car seat out of my truck..

*Shane* · 02-18-2008, 06:27 AM

Heck, my old man used to make us ride in the back ... no shoes ... no shirts.

sick69 · 02-18-2008, 06:41 AM

I'm in the same boat Shane. For that matter in the winter we used to use an old car/truck hood tied with a 30foot rope behind a truck for a sled. It's amazing how many people you can fit on a 59 apache hood.

Mike C · 02-18-2008, 07:01 AM

Check this thread in the Blazer section. No booster, but its design has the kid in the right spot with the belts which is what the boosters job does. Constabulary might grieve you, but on Co.'s website they say have them for passenger cars.
http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...=1#post2583085

Longhorn Man · 02-18-2008, 08:23 AM

you might want to talk to the state police about installing a 4 point harness.... and if they turn a blind eye to it, you need to make sire they are installed correctly. If it isn't done right (pretty much need a roll bar) it will compress your spine and make you wish you kissed the dash in a wreck.

02-17-2008, 06:59 PM	#1
1971ChevyTruck Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,006	Help get my wife off my back Okay heres the story. I went to put my daughters booster seat in my truck and my wife freaked out on me. She doesn't like the fact that I only have a lap belt to secure the seat. Does any one know of an add on harness or something? Whats the best way to secure those thing with only a lap belt??

02-17-2008, 08:06 PM	#2
DavesRide Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Garageless, Missouri Posts: 408	Re: Help get my wife off my back I had to either put my five year in a car seat with a three point harness held by lap belt or a three point seat belt. I found a S10 retractor and buckle at the junk yard and only had to customize the outer floor mount. The other two points have proper mounting holes. I just thown in his booster seat and buckle him in and off we go. __________________ R.I.P ESLL Even as the body dies the spirit lives on in the people you touched

02-17-2008, 08:09 PM	#3
crews It just doesn't matter Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Huntington Beach, Ca Posts: 1,660	Re: Help get my wife off my back Child booster seats are designed to be secured with a lap belt. If you use a shoulder harness, you have to use the metal adapter to keep the seat belt from trying to twist the safety seat into the middle of the vehicle. When my kids were little, they were ALWAYS in their booster seat in the middle seat with just a lap belt. ( a trick to make sure they are good and tight, is to put your knee in the seat when cinching the lap belt so it is good and snug.) As long as you have the lap belt snug and the seat isn't moving around, there is no safety issue with just using a lap belt. Just make sure you use the restraining harness in the booster seat for the kid!! Your wife should have no issue as long as the seat is secure. __________________ 05 Chevy Silverado..... A rogue BMW guy.... If you don't like me- TAKE A NUMBER; There are people ahead of you!!

02-17-2008, 08:13 PM	#4
Luvlegs Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Smith Mountain Lake Virginia Posts: 1,537	Re: Help get my wife off my back Most of the child seats, when installed in the rear seat, facing the rear, are only attached with a lap belt - in the center is safer to me than at either door. IF the seat is facing forward, the child seats usually have a belt off the top that connects to either a spot in the back window behind the seat top or down to the crack in the seats. IF you want to make sure all is good and get a blessing, take it to a fire house and get their advice. __________________ "A cat will almost always blink when hit between the eyes with a ball peen hammer" (you don't always have to state the obvious) Wear your PPE! You can eat with false teeth but you can't see with a false eye. 1959 Studebaker Silverhawk 350/400 1972 C10 L6 3OTT 2005 F350 - Built - whew!

02-17-2008, 08:47 PM	#6
DavesRide Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Garageless, Missouri Posts: 408	Re: Help get my wife off my back To be sure I called the Highway Patrol Headquarters. The kids have to be in a three point harness whether it be in the car seat or just a booster seat with car belt here in good ol' Missouri until they are at least the age of seven or seventy pounds. It may be 8 and 80 but we aren't close yet either way. __________________ R.I.P ESLL Even as the body dies the spirit lives on in the people you touched

02-17-2008, 08:54 PM	#7
1971ChevyTruck Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,006	Re: Help get my wife off my back The booster seat we have is made to have a shoulder bet and lap belt. In the instructions it says that if you just use a lap belt they can fly right out of the darn thing. I have tried to be a smart azz and put one of my racing four point harnesses in the truck...we'll see what she says about that..

02-17-2008, 09:20 PM	#8
Huck Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Shelbyville, KY Posts: 3,269	Re: Help get my wife off my back Simply take the time to explain the facts to your wife as most women don't understand mechanical stuff. Show her the location of the gas tank in the cab, show her the filler neck pertruding out the drivers side as a kind of gas vapor wick in the case of an accident!! Then show her the many safety features of the truck like the deeply padded dash, the lack of dangerous air bags, etc. By the time you're done, you wouldn't have to worry about taking your daughter in the truck---or for that matter, your wife, dog, cat, or any other living thing! Actually these trucks are not very safe for a child and I would be caucious as they really are a fire bomb waiting for an accident.!!!!!! Up to XX lbs and XX inches, a child must be in a rear facing seat that can mount with a stock lap belt. Over that size, you can use a front facing seat but most have a top clasp the secures the seat from flipping forward. You could probably clip the seat to the back of your bench seat but have no clue as to it's ability to handle an accident.

02-17-2008, 09:56 PM	#9
brad_man_72 the boat guy Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: springfield mo Posts: 2,339	Re: Help get my wife off my back duct tape cild safety seat to roof of truck. no problem! __________________ 67, swb, fleet, tach, throttle, 5.3, 4l60e, 3.73's, fuel cell, 5 lug, p.d.b., 4-6 drop. great little truck 66, stevens drag/ski 18' silouette, 350, 2.02 doublehump heads. comp extreme marine 278 cam, vette 7 fin valve covers, old polished edelbrock intake, velvetdrive, casale v-drive, adj cavitation plate. 28, model a rpu project,

02-17-2008, 10:14 PM	#10
caminokid Chevy nut Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Springfield, Illinois Posts: 2,265	Re: Help get my wife off my back God no! Dont show her where the gas tank is! She will flip out then! __________________ 84 Chevy Custom Deluxe 1/2 Ton Named Fade To Black II "Remember kids there is NO replacement for displacement!"

02-17-2008, 10:32 PM	#11
68gmsee Active Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Centrally located between Houston, Austin and Waco. BCS area. Posts: 7,947	Re: Help get my wife off my back How in the world did we survived our childhood in the years before all the laws and regulations.... I guess those country roads weren't as full of maniacs driving crazy... I remember driving down the road in the back of dad's pickup with my little brothers all seated on the bed... Dad's only requirement: Stay seated on the floor bed! If we stood up, he would stop the truck and we would have to ride in front with him and mom...

02-17-2008, 11:00 PM	#12
alfeefish Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Harrison TN Posts: 183	Re: Help get my wife off my back What year s10 seatbelt will fit our trucks?

02-17-2008, 11:41 PM	#13
89 crew Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Kansas Posts: 865	Re: Help get my wife off my back I asked a count sheriff about the booster seats just the other day. But let me start at the beginning. One late night while scouring the net I found an article by the national highway safety council. The article was about Child booster seats and lap belts. according to the article when a child is in a wreck with just a lap belt they are much more likely to be injured if they are in a booster! The research came back as the best action if all the vehicle has is a lap belt is forget the booster seat! My question to the Sheriff was what should I do? I have not been driving my Cadillac as a family car because it doesn't have shoulder belts, and if I follow what the research says he would be writing me a ticket for no safety seats. He told me I need to get a print out of that article and keep it in my car, forget the booster seats and show the article to any officer that has a problem. He said the Sheriffs department wouldn't bother anyone unless the kids were up jumping around the car. Now this was just one cop and I haven't had the opportunity to check with all the other law enforcement around this area. In reality the booster seat laws are another area where legislation has gone crazy.

02-18-2008, 01:36 AM	#15
odog Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Wendell, Idaho Posts: 608	Re: Help get my wife off my back My girls' boosters have a strap that goes from the top back of their chair over the back of the seat and clips to a sturdy anchor point on the floor of the cab. I use the lap belt and just cinch it down with me knees, after I cinch the strap in the back. __________________ 1969 4x4 Nothing beats a good rock drill and some dynamite

02-18-2008, 05:13 AM	#19
DavesRide Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Garageless, Missouri Posts: 408	Re: Help get my wife off my back Longhorn Man, I am not disagreeing with you but my truck did not come with seat belts. The PO put in a drivers lap belt. I can tell by fasteners it is not original. In the state of Missouri, children under a certain weight and age gotta be in seatbelt of some form or another, regardless. I have read the legal pages to find out and I neither want to get a ticket or have my precious cargo go out the windshield when some idiot pulls out in front of me. My son totally digs riding in the old truck and hangin' his arm out the window just like good ol' Dad. It doesn't have to have seat belts, but he can't ride without one and I don't like to be without mine either. Riding without my belt on kinda feels like walking outside naked to me. Well maybe like grinding without saftey glasses on. I hear what you are saying though. David __________________ R.I.P ESLL Even as the body dies the spirit lives on in the people you touched

02-18-2008, 05:21 AM	#20
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: Help get my wife off my back your truck 'originally' came with 2 seat belts if its the one in your avatar. All 67 - 72 trucks came with a seat belt left and right, unless it was opted with only one bucket seat, then it only came with the belt on the left. I agree on not butting heads with the local boys in blue, even if you are right, it just causes problems later.



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02-18-2008, 05:54 AM	#21
1971ChevyTruck Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,006	Re: Help get my wife off my back Wow never had so many replies to a single post...thanks for everyone sharing their feelings and information...all of this because of my wife... I called Illinois State police today...they said in Illinois a lap belt won't cut it for a booster seat unless its a booster seat with a 5 point harness and you have that secured with the lap belt and the strap on the back of the car seat. The booster seats with the 5 point harness take up too much room on the bench seat. So here are the two options I found..I found a cheap four point harness and use the simpson racing booster or I am going to suck it up and use the simpson racing booster with the 5 point harness. Either way my daughter is excited, I make the wife happy and its the only way I keep the pink car seat out of my truck.. Attached Images

02-18-2008, 06:27 AM	#22
Shane Account Suspended Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: over yonder Posts: 14,270	Re: Help get my wife off my back Heck, my old man used to make us ride in the back ... no shoes ... no shirts.

02-18-2008, 06:41 AM	#23
sick69 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: colorado springs colorado Posts: 737	Re: Help get my wife off my back I'm in the same boat Shane. For that matter in the winter we used to use an old car/truck hood tied with a 30foot rope behind a truck for a sled. It's amazing how many people you can fit on a 59 apache hood. __________________ 70 chevy lwb c10 454/th400 and a 9" rearend suicide doors, marker light fuel fill, 4" cowl , mini tub

02-18-2008, 07:01 AM	#24
Mike C Registered User Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Austin, TX, USA Posts: 7,714	Re: Help get my wife off my back Check this thread in the Blazer section. No booster, but its design has the kid in the right spot with the belts which is what the boosters job does. Constabulary might grieve you, but on Co.'s website they say have them for passenger cars. http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...=1#post2583085 __________________ 44 Willys MB 52 M38A1 64 Corvette Coupe 68 Camaro 'vert LT1 & TH700 69 Z/28 355 12.6's @110 69 Chevy Short Step 4 1/2"/7" drop 72 Jimmy 4WD 4spd 4" & 35's 02 GMC 2500HD 4x4 Duramax

02-18-2008, 08:23 AM	#25
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: Help get my wife off my back you might want to talk to the state police about installing a 4 point harness.... and if they turn a blind eye to it, you need to make sire they are installed correctly. If it isn't done right (pretty much need a roll bar) it will compress your spine and make you wish you kissed the dash in a wreck.

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