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Old 07-10-2019, 01:24 AM   #151
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Re: Grandpa's 72 restoration

Very nice work sir. Enjoy watching your progres.
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Old 07-10-2019, 08:57 AM   #152
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Thanks. Did not expect panel fitting to take this long! Hopefully the new bed goes together nicely.
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Old 07-10-2019, 09:41 AM   #153
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Looking good, your patience is paying off.
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Old 07-19-2019, 11:19 AM   #154
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Big day yesterday. My new bedsides came in, got a great deal on them from my local supplier. No shipping cost because I picked them up at his shop and $525 per bedside, however the driver side had some minor damage from shipping so he knocked $100 off that side. Less than 1K for 2 new bedsides, I'm happy. They are triplus brand from Classic Industries.

I previously had bought all new cross sills and rear sill, had new tubs and new tailgate. Bought a bunch of 5/16 bolts and went at it. Went together pretty well, had to hog out a few front panel bolt holes to get the bolts in them but not bad. The tricky part was getting the rear sill to slide into the besides to bolt them up. Had to cut a little bit off the sill for clearance then they bolted up fine. The tailgate went on fine and gaps seem to be pretty good for rough fitting. I'll blow it all apart for paint and raptor liner on the lower inner bedsides and tubs.

Last weekend a friend and I ripped and grooved the hackberry boards on a table saw. Dado blade worked awesome for the grooves. I set the boards in just to sit back and look at it.

The only original metal on the bed is the front panel and tailgate trunions and straps (painted blue in the pics)

I'm a happy camper. Can't wait to set it on the frame.
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Old 07-19-2019, 12:21 PM   #155
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Nice, nice work!!!
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Old 07-19-2019, 12:48 PM   #156
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Re: Grandpa's 72 restoration

Nice progress! You're coming down the home stretch of body work.

Don't make the mistake I did and put the nuts that hold the bedsides to the front panel on the outside of the bed panel. I convinced my dad to do that on his 64 to make it a little cleaner and the bolts were long enough that one of them scratched the back of the cab.
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Old 07-30-2019, 09:50 AM   #157
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Thank you. The front panel nuts are inside the bed, read many stories on guys scratching the cab with bolts facing out.

My aftermarket tailgate blows. Body lines don't match up with bedsides very well, can't shut tailgate without it pushing down and flexing rear cross sill. Have tried to adjust the hinges up and out to gain clearance but just wont clear. Sloppy trunion joint, weak flimsy metal. May try to rework my original tailgate. Its all close and would work for a beater driver, but the fit is not satisfactory.

On the plus side the bed wood is coming along nicely. I first squared the bed and test fit everything prior to drilling holes and made some relief cuts and other minor changes to the bed flanges that the bolts go through. Then did about 20 test pieces for color and finish to find my formula. What I did first is oil the boards with teak oil to somewhat seal the wood so the stain would not make everything one uniform color. I let the oil sit for maybe 5 mins then wiped off excess and let dry several days. Then using minwax dark walnut thinned 50% I applied that quickly and wiped off quickly. Let dry. What this accomplished was to darken the white sapwood to match the gray/brown heartwood without completely blending and loosing the natural highlights and lowlights. Then started top coating with Epifanes gloss spar varnish....which is AWESOME stuff... 5 coats on right now waiting 24 hours between coats with sanding between coats. Followed directions to the letter. Tonight I will start 2-4 coats of Epifanes matte finish which does not require sanding between coats. These products build very well but thinning is necessary otherwise its like painting on thick honey.

I got my new unpolished stainless strips in yesterday so I threw them on quick over my lunch break. Still too shiny for me, may take red scuff pad to them to dull them up a little and match the matte wood finish. We'll see.
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Old 07-30-2019, 11:59 AM   #158
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Re: Grandpa's 72 restoration

Where did you get your tailgate from? Was it a complete bed kit or did you order them from separate vendors?
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Old 07-30-2019, 03:25 PM   #159
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I bought the tailgate probably 1 year ago, from my normal body panel guy but was a scratch / dent deal...bought it cheap. Had a small dent on the bottom I already pulled out that doesnt affect fit or function.
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Old 07-30-2019, 07:26 PM   #160
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Look into these, eBay item number:171709178881 Brothers also has a version.

I bought the ebay ones and they help a lot with slop. I also had to slot the holes quite a bit on mine as well as work on the box with a dremel where they mount but I got mine to fit decent. One of the body lines is pretty good on mine, the other isnt that great but Im going to live with it.

I would also mock up the tailgate handle while your at it, mine fit like crap.
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Old 07-31-2019, 09:31 AM   #161
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Look into these, eBay item number:171709178881 Brothers also has a version.

I bought the ebay ones and they help a lot with slop. I also had to slot the holes quite a bit on mine as well as work on the box with a dremel where they mount but I got mine to fit decent. One of the body lines is pretty good on mine, the other isnt that great but Im going to live with it.

I would also mock up the tailgate handle while your at it, mine fit like crap.
Thanks for the link, i've never seen those before. Sounds like we have the same fitment issues with the new beds. I trimmed some excess folded sheet metal where the trunion bolts up and used 2 washers on each mount bolt to remove some of the slop and that helped quite a bit, much tighter now. I enlarged the holes on the trunion mount again for more adjustability and the tailgate will now shut pretty well without contacting the rear cross sill.

Also the Epifanes matte wood finish is absolutely incredible. Pics to come after another coat.
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Pic of the matte finish, has the perfect sheen and very level and even coverage.
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Old 08-01-2019, 09:19 AM   #163
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Also spent several more hours with the tailgate. This thing was a real bugger but I have it closing great and gaps are kinda ok.

The pic shows how mismatched the body lines are on the tailgate vs the bedside though...no fixing this. I will have the custom deluxe tailgate and tail light trim so hopefully that hides some of the poor fit

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Old 08-01-2019, 09:24 AM   #165
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Hit the gaps with rattle medium blue to help visualize. Sure is nice to see blue
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Old 08-01-2019, 06:51 PM   #166
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Re: Grandpa's 72 restoration

Its off alot more than mine was, is it like that on both sides?

It almost looks like the problem is with the box side and not the tail gate, was the box side dented in on that corner?
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Its off alot more than mine was, is it like that on both sides?

It almost looks like the problem is with the box side and not the tail gate, was the box side dented in on that corner?
Yeah both sides, driver side worse. No dents or issues with bedsides, the tailgate has been a fight from the start, nothing is symmetrical on it and poor joints/welds/quality control...

Here is a pic from the top, tailgate contour sticks out 1/4" on driver side
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This is passenger side from top. 1/8" proud on tailgate contour. Sorry pics are sideways...
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Old 08-12-2019, 11:04 AM   #169
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I've been working on the bed and wood at my house so this weekend I tore it down and loaded it on the trailer to haul it up to the shop. Reassembled the bed and had my dad and a few friends help mount to frame. Body lines all flow very well for the initial fit. Have a few dents on driver side to bodywork then will blow it all apart again for paint.

One issue I have been noticing is that the front driver side of the truck sits about 1" lower than passenger creating a slight twist in frame front to back. You can see it with the bed mounted rear view picture. Not sure if a spring isn't seated correctly or maybe driver side spring is weaker? I'll have to investigate.

Also installed the honda civic weatherstrips on doors, fantastic fit and doors shut great, seals well all around. had to cut 1" out to fit was all.

My son sure liked testing out the steering for me haha...
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Old 08-12-2019, 11:08 AM   #170
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Here is the honda civic weather strip, would highly recommend.

Also the new rear leaf springs create quite the rake front to back, looks beefy but might have to take out a leaf or two..
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Old 08-12-2019, 05:01 PM   #171
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Try your old tailgate for fit. Might be better to repair that one if not too bad. Even if the original one is rough at least you can eliminate the problem is with the bed sides.
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Old 08-12-2019, 06:29 PM   #172
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Where did you get the weatherstrip, new or salvage? Im temped to try some, Ive tried both Steele and Precision and am not happy with either.
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Old 08-12-2019, 07:09 PM   #173
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Bought them new from honda car parts direct, they're not cheap at $50 per side but I was very happy with the fit and seal. Can't comment about wind noise yet as I haven't driven it.

There is a thread here titled like "OMG Honda door weatherstripping", good read with reviews
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Old 11-21-2019, 03:52 PM   #174
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Any updates?
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Old 11-22-2019, 11:29 AM   #175
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Nope not much for updates, did some minor filler work on driver bedside from shipping dings, bought a set of durablocks and getting ready to get everything blocked out. Hoping to have some time over Thanksgiving break for a couple shop days. Overall goal is finished truck by spring 2020
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