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Re: Over 25 Years Later, Finally My 71 C-10 Truck Build
Looking good glad to see it moving forward again. I had several body shops say they were going to glue in the floor patches on my truck when I got bids kind of made me a little leary. The glue is susposed to work great but welding just seemed right. I will be watching your progres with this to see if I over reacted.
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If a seam loosens up, use some heat to pull it off and redo it. Or weld it, or put some screws in or rivits in it to hold it. It's not like it will fly out and cause an injury accident. On the paint and body board there are a few threads discussing adhesives. It is the prefered or recommended panel replacement by many manufacturers. It's very strong. It seals the seam and is corrosion resistant. I'm having a hard time finding a reason not to do it this way. Now I'm saying all this without actually completing the job, I'm optimistic. If it doesn't work I will definitely post that too. And I'll be investigating to find out why it doesn't work. If it does work, this could be the ticket for a lot of people that are not welders but are proficient enough with some tin snips and a grinder to overcome the fear to repair their cabs. |
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Can you believe that I've been off work for a week and have only a couple hours here and there to work in the garage. It's insane. Anyway, I got the floor pans installed today. The outside temp got into the 40's and with my trusty propane bullet heater, I was able to get the garage warm enough to work the adhesive.
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...k/IMG_3845.jpg It actually got to almost 80 in there. I was a little short on the adhesive, which really sucks when you just buy one tube and the store is a 20 minute drive, and it's probably closed. I was able to spread it around enough though. I think. I had the pans fitted in as best I could. I scribed an edge around to know where I had to clean off the paint. Took them out and used a wire wheel on the angle grinder to clean all the surfaces where the edhesive goes. http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...k/IMG_3843.jpg http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...k/IMG_3842.jpg http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...k/IMG_3844.jpg Then lay a bead of glue down, spread it with a brush, set the pan in place and clamp/screw/rivit it in place. It looks good, but I'm in no hurry to pull out the screws. I let the heater go for a couple hours after I put the glue down. I'll have to check iot out tomorrow to see if it set up properly. If it's still tacky, I start up the heater again and maybe use the heat gun. The instructions say you can cure it in an hour at 160F. http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...k/IMG_3848.jpg http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...k/IMG_3849.jpg http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...k/IMG_3846.jpg http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...k/IMG_3847.jpg |
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It's not done yet. I need to put a backer along the seam with the rocker. I need to clean up the rust at the bottom of the kick panels and I've got the one corner to work on. I need to fill the rain gutter. It needs an undercoating. I need to get some dents pulled out and there are probably other things I'll find as I keep making progress.
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Love the work you are doing. I appreciate how you had the cab blasted and taking your time to make sure everything gets put in correctly.
I need to keep my eye on this build, I can't wait to see more progress pics! Don |
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glad to see this , my wife wants me too finish my truck also, believe it or not we have know each other for 5 years married for 1.5 and she has never driven in it, got to love the women somedays, keep us posted
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A little more progress. I got the patch put in where the floor was cut for a shifter and over the hole for the gas line. I'll be using a tank under the bed. The adhesive seems to have set up well. I used a little more from the underneath side to seal some gaps up. I think it will work great. I got a couple cans of undercoating that I'm going to try and spray on later, after the latest adhesive sets up. I was going to used the patch adhesive this time because it has a faster set up time, but no one had it in stock, so I ended up using the panel adhesive again. It's ok, just takes longer to set up.
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...k/IMG_3850.jpg http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...k/IMG_3851.jpg http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...k/IMG_3852.jpg I put bolts in all the seat mount holes and in the hump mount holes to keep the undercoating out of the nuts. The underside of the cab was already blasted and primered, so I should be all set for undercoat. |
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I found out 2 cans of 3M spray undercoat is maybe half of what I need. Oh well, I'll finish that tomorrow and post a pic. Maybe I can get the kick panels and the corner done also. My wife and girls will be gone for the day, no interruptions.
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Well, I got the undercoating sprayed, mostly. I got the patches in the cab corners, not the outer, but the inner part that is against the end of the rear support. I also closed up a small rust hole at the bottom of the B pillar on the driver side. You could see it looking through where the corner was cut out. I found a couple small holes in the passenger side corner that will need a little work. That was all for today. The fumes from the heater were giving me a headache. It's not as bad as the diesel/kerosene heaters, but after 3 days, it bothered me.
I'm going to make the kick panel patches next, then cut down the corner patches. Motivation is strong now, I need to keep going. http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...k/IMG_3853.jpg http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...k/IMG_3854.jpg |
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keep up the good work!!! you have to much history to let a nother body shop cobb it up for you..!!!.,hello toMN RUST...
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I got the patches made for the kick panel bottoms. I think they turned out pretty good for some left over scraps, a tin snips, a hammer and a vise. I'll either blend them in with some putty or get some nice kick panel covers or carpet. None of the work so far will be visible after carpet, etc. They are just set in place. They'll get glued when I fire the heater up again.
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...k/IMG_3855.jpg http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...k/IMG_3856.jpg I also got a pretty good start on the cab corner patch. It's hanging by one screw right now, but looks like a good fit so far. I probably won't get these glued in place until next week or so. My son has a hockey game thursady, then we leave for a tournament friday and won't get home til sunday. Plus there's that little job thing I have to keep showing up for. http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...k/IMG_3857.jpg |
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Merry Christmas. I was hoping to be able to post some serious updates here. You see, I took a bunch of vacation because I need to burn up the hours or lose them. The kids are at school, the wife is at work. So I am a man alone, with his dog and his truck. What could be a better time than that huh?
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...k/IMG_3862.jpg June would be a better time as a matter of fact. That is actually reading a little high. Officially it has warmed up to -9F and may get above zero this afternoon. Frostbite kind of takes the joy out of my mental therapy sessions. http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...k/IMG_3861.jpg I have a propane fired heater in the garage, but without the ceiling finished, it would be difficult to get it comfortable in there. The sad thing is, it's only december. The cold part of winter is still a month away. The really sad thing is that this is an improvement over the weekend we just finished. -15F and a 30 mph wind will take the starch out of just about anyone. Where the hell is that global warming at? |
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Spring fever is starting to set in. But spring is still several weeks away. Most of our snow melted off the past couple days and when that starts happening I get a serious itch to work on stuff. The problem is that 40*F feels real nice right now, but it's not warm enough for adhesive to work. So the cab sits, waiting to be worked on again.
I haven't been able to move the truck for two reasons. First the snow was a bit deep around it. Second, it wouldn't start. At first I thought it was the battery because the starter would turn over for a minute and then die off. Then I figured out the starter was dying. But because it's been stuck in a snow bank since november... Anyway, I couldn't stand it any longer. I jacked up the front pass side, popped the tire out of the ice and replaced the starter. I got a rug under me to stay dry from the soggy grass. It was a hard start, but it did eventually get running. I drove it around the neighborhood a bit and think I ran out of gas about 100 feet from the driveway. I put a little gas in and got it backed up to the garage. I think I'll get the bed pulled off next week. It needs to wait until then. You see, we got this thaw here, but there is a 100% chance of snow again tommorow and highs in the teens for a few days. Then another thaw next week. Typical late winter weather for us. I do appreciate the nice days when we get them. It's just too few right now. I told the wife I will not go another winter without a heated garage. She just said to get it (the garage ceiling and heat) finished. OK dear. I will. |
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We've had nice weather the past couple days, so I was trying to diagnose a problem with the engine. It was starving for gas. Turns out the filter was clogged. With rust. The gas tank got some moisture in it years ago from sitting and I've been fighting it ever since. I think the boot on the pick up tube in the tank may be shot, based on the amount of crap coming through to the filter. Anyway, that tank will be replaced with a blazer style one soon enough.
On a side note, A couple I know had moved out of town. The guy was a mechanic by training, but not occupation. Anyway, he had a ferd 351M and C6 tranny sitting in the garage they vacated and offered it to me just to get it out. I have no use for it, but if I can sell it or trade it for something I need, it's well worth my time. I might be getting a ferd 9" axle for it. We'll see. |
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I'm getting a Lock-right posi differential for the 12 bolt. I got a pretty good deal on ebay for it. The advantage to this style is cost and ease of installation. You don't have to remove the carrier, just the spider gears from the open diff, and slide the axles out a bit. Install the posi in the carrier and slide the axles back in. It's a locker type too, not limited slip. So the price of the unit is less than a carrier type posi and you save money on the installation costs.
I'm also rebuilding a 350 shortblock for my jimmy project. The 4 bolt main 350 that is in the jimmy will probably be built for this project. I've always wanted to build a stroker, but might just settle for a very stout 350, vortec or aftermarket heads and a shot of NOS for a trip down the local 1/8 mile. |
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I took most of the day off from work so I could play a bit. I was able to borrow a stud gun and slide hammer from a body shop around the corner from my house. That thing is very cool. So simple even a caveman like me can do it. I had two kinda large dents under the rear window and another under the cowl, then a few little ones on the cab. I also had 3 small dents on the fender that I did not take picks of, just more of the same. Just some more hammer work and it will just need a light coat of mud to level off. Not bad for a newbie.
I brought the truck back over to the shop to return his tools and get an estimate for some welding. He gave me a great idea for filling a lot of the small holes from trim pieces etc. Use the stud gun to fill the small holes that the stud head is big enough for. Then just grind those smooth. That will save a lot of time on the fenders I have. Anyway, it looks like I'll be bringing the truck over to his shop on monday for some work. There is a crack on the pass side rear wheel well because that brace in front of the wheel well is gone. There are holes in the bedrails from the PO installing a camper or something, and I have the stake hole patches that need to be welded. They will also fill the holes I can't do with the studgun on the fenders. He said they will probably charge me about an hour for that. Sounds like a deal to me. http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...k/IMG_3976.jpg http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...k/IMG_3977.jpg http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...k/IMG_3978.jpg http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...k/IMG_3979.jpg http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...k/IMG_3980.jpg |
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I'm waiting for a warmer day to do a little more adhesive work. I have my patches made for the kick panel area. I have a seam to take care of on the floor patch, and I want to reinforce the area where my floor patches meet the rockers. I also want to open up the inner rocker from the underneath and clean, then coat the inside of the rockers. I think I'm going to have the bodyshop weld the one cab corner in. It'll soon be time to dismantle.
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Oh yeah, I also glued a patch for where someone cut a hole for the shifter, which will also be supported by bolts through the low hump cover I made.
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Just adding some pictures of dent repairs on a fender. Not pefect, but way better than before. I'm getting all of the holes filled maybe today. I'm going to do the smaller ones here in the next hour myself. Also a picture of my 21st anniversary present. Now isn't that what a garage is supposed to look like?
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Spent $50 at the local body shop getting the trim holes filled on the fenders, and stake pocket patches welded in. They also filled holes in the bed rail and fixed a crack in the wheel well. I also got a lot of free advice. Money well spent I think. I'll probably take the cab over there sometime soon for some welding also. The only other rust repair to do is the bed floor. I'll put some pics up later of what was done and the bed floor rust.
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looking good!! what kidna rear tank ya gonna get blazer or fuel cell,,
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http://www.tanksinc.com/index.cfm/pa...rod/prd113.htm I don't have the cash for a fancy aluminum or stainless fuel cell, but summit has some like this: http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku |
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Pics of stake pockets, bed rails, fenders after filling all the holes.
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only $50! good deal... most shop won't talk to you for $50...
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I think it's better all around. I get to do more of the work myself. I get professional help when I need it. They tell me what needs to be done and will even take the time to teach me some. And they are right around the corner from my house. I can drop the truck off and walk home. |
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Haven't worked on the truck much, but did get a new ceiling on the garage.
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...s/IMG_4016.jpg http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...s/IMG_4017.jpg http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...s/IMG_4018.jpg The man-cave is coming along, but it's a lot of work. I had to take a lot of things out to make room and it just doesn't go back as easy as it came out. Lights go in different spots. This one was $1 at an auction and my wife bought it for me. Sweet! http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...s/IMG_4003.jpg http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...s/IMG_4004.jpg I have all summer to get insulation in and find a heater before next winter. I also stopped at a junkyard and found a 71 C-10 that had not been molested yet. It had a perfect dash wiring harness, no splices and looked very good. Also had a good headliner and trim that wasn't warped. I pulled the radio and cargo light with switch and a couple other goodies. Everything together cost me $20. http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...k/IMG_4005.jpg |
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The last time I drove the truck, something happened and it's running like crap. I thought it was the carb. I have a holley that has always been a bit of a pain, so I bought an edelbrock from msgross and installed it, only to find the problem still there. I had planned on the carb swap anyway, so no loss there. So I looked for vacuum leaks, but found nothing. I decided to check the timing again but the timing light wouldn't work. I switch the lead from #1 plug wire to #7 and the light worked, switched it back, no go. So tomorrow I'll be installing new plugwires, cap and rotor, reset timing and see what happens.
It's supposed to warm up and I think I'll get back to work on the cab. I want to finish what I can and then haul it over to the body shop for the last bit of welding. |
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great progress...watching this thread for sure!
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Got the new cap and rotor and plug wires installed, which took care of the major idling issues. The old wires were installed around the time I got married, maybe even the year before. I just had my 21st anniversary, I guess it was time. I'm still having issues with the fuel filter clogging and uneven fuel pressure. It's caused by rust coming from the gas tank.
I did some searches here and found a thread by frizzle fry: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=234732 I went to the junkyard a few minutes later and found an ok tank from a 75 blazer. It's got a couple dings in the bottom, some surface rust, but the inside looks good and it has a sending unit. It should be a 25 gallon based on the measurements and it will actually be lower profile than the 72 style blazer tank. http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...k/IMG_4021.jpg It's warming up so I'll get back to work on the cab soon so the body swap can move forward. |
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Nice and warm yesterday after work, so I got my little homemade kick panel patches glued in, and filled a hole. The screws are just there to hold it while the adhesive cures. They'll come out and all the little holes will be sealed up.
I also got the studs ground off the back of the cab. Next step is to haul it to the body shop to get the corner welded in. I'm seriously considering making a panel to fit in the corners so the floor is flush there, no pockets to hold crap and make it rust. Then I'd just leave the area where the cab support meets it unsealed for drainage, or even open it up somemore to allow cleaning. Any thoughts from the board? http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...k/IMG_4023.jpg http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...k/IMG_4024.jpg http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...k/IMG_4025.jpg |
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The local body guy is the one who recommended I go this route. He said they've had cars and trucks come in after collisions and the panels were still on solid with adhesive. There are rumors floating about panels popping off, but they were probably not prepped correctly for good adhesion, if it happened at all. Sounds more like an old school body guy trying to scare potential customers. If I had known about this method sooner, I would have done it years ago, without hesitation. One of the reasons I've posted it here is to maybe help out some other members that are not comfortable welding. It's not exactly cheap. The gun or applicator is about $45, and each tube of adhesive is around $37-40. I used 3 tubes here. But I did it all myself which makes me feel better about the project. I've got a jimmy that will probably get the same treatment. |
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Love the work you have done, makes me wish I had done the adhesive thing myself to my rig. could have saved some cash.
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Spent some quality time with my Makita grinder and a wire wheel yesterday. Cleaned up the new gas tank some. It really looked a lot worse than it was and it did not look too bad. It had been sprayed with undercoating. It has a few dents in the bottom, but inside looks great. I got a couple strips of galvanized steel from a local HVAC guy (free, gotta love small towns) to use for tank straps. I had to buy another can of undercoating, I ran out. I will need to get a can of black spray paint too. I thought I had some, but didn't. That will finish off the asthetics of the tank.
Before: http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...k/IMG_4021.jpg After: http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...k/IMG_4035.jpg I will need fill line, gas line, vent lines and some bolts to finish the job. I'll probably wait till the bed and rest of the body comes off and the chassis gets blasted and painted. I'm hoping to get that far before Memorial Day. Wish me luck. |
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I really dove in to it today. I've got pics but will have to post them later because my daughter took the camara. It's her first prom tonight and I sneaked a picture of her in the background of my tore apart truck.
Anyway, my son and I got the front clip off, the bed and doors. I might be able to get the cab off tomorrow yet. Then drain the fluids and pull the engine and tranny soon after. Wish me luck, I'm gonna need it. |
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