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flashed 06-12-2013 01:05 PM

Re: '55 International Metal/Body/Paint Work
 
Nice work and I love the El Camino ,are you on Team Chevelle/El Camino ?

theastronaut 06-13-2013 08:52 AM

Re: '55 International Metal/Body/Paint Work
 
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Originally Posted by dantimdad (Post 6120041)
Very slick!

Thanks!!


Quote:

Originally Posted by flashed (Post 6120089)
Nice work and I love the El Camino ,are you on Team Chevelle/El Camino ?

Thanks flashed, I'm familiar with Team Chevelle but havne't joined.

theastronaut 06-27-2013 03:02 PM

Re: '55 International Metal/Body/Paint Work
 
Right side is seam sealed, bodywork is done, and just sprayed three coats of Slick Sand.


http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...35550676_n.jpg

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duallyjams 06-28-2013 08:57 PM

Re: '55 International Metal/Body/Paint Work
 
When I retire I plan on moving to Anderson so I can watch you restore what ever I have at the time, assume work as always.

franken 06-28-2013 11:52 PM

Re: '55 International Metal/Body/Paint Work
 
Could you share some of the seemingly secrets of patching while not ruining the part?
You show great before and after pics but what about the dirty middle parts?
Just removing old bits can take hours.
Forming new parts even more.
Welding is an art.
Finally, removing proud weld bits and not original metal is beyond art.

Please... show the dirty parts after the rust but before the DA makes it all look pretty...

franken 06-29-2013 12:00 AM

Re: '55 International Metal/Body/Paint Work
 
Then, what about planishing to unshrink after welding? Do or don't?
If do, what about when you can't, such as a front fender at the lower rear ?

Sorry...

theastronaut 06-29-2013 07:06 PM

Re: '55 International Metal/Body/Paint Work
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by franken (Post 6147840)
Could you share some of the seemingly secrets of patching while not ruining the part?
You show great before and after pics but what about the dirty middle parts?
Just removing old bits can take hours.
Forming new parts even more.
Welding is an art.
Finally, removing proud weld bits and not original metal is beyond art.

Please... show the dirty parts after the rust but before the DA makes it all look pretty...

Quote:

Originally Posted by franken (Post 6147851)
Then, what about planishing to unshrink after welding? Do or don't?
If do, what about when you can't, such as a front fender at the lower rear ?

Sorry...


Appreciate the questions! We are going to be replacing the floors/kick panels/inner rockers in a '66 F100 in the next few weeks and I'll try to get some of those details on camera and post them in that build thread. The link is in my signature.

For stretching the metal back out after welding, I only weld one tack at a time so the "heat affected zone" is relatively small, so there is minimal distortion to begin with. In areas with access to both sides, the "hammer on dolly" method can be used to stretch the weld area and remove the distortion. On areas that can't be reached, the stud gun can be used to pull up low spots. My metal finishing is nowhere near perfect and it requires a light skim coat of filler most of the time; I'm not able to go straight to high build primer over epoxy without a skim coat yet. Maybe one day with more practice and better tools! I'm still using a Harbor Freight (Hazard Fraught :lol:) hammer/dolly set... Need to pick up a set of Martin's soon.

theastronaut 06-29-2013 07:07 PM

Re: '55 International Metal/Body/Paint Work
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by duallyjams (Post 6147553)
When I retire I plan on moving to Anderson so I can watch you restore what ever I have at the time, assume work as always.

Thanks James, come on down anytime- you don't have to wait that long!

FRENCHBLUE72 07-02-2013 07:31 AM

Re: '55 International Metal/Body/Paint Work
 
Great work...

theastronaut 07-09-2013 02:29 PM

Re: '55 International Metal/Body/Paint Work
 
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Originally Posted by FRENCHBLUE72 (Post 6153042)
Great work...


Thanks!!


Bodywork is finished on the right side and it's in tinted K93.

Some details of sanding the Slick Sand. Sanded the flat areas first, which showed the shape of the corners.

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...95349365_n.jpg


Outside looks good, inside against the flat area needs more shaping. That's what Slick Sand and guide coat is for!

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...47519802_n.jpg


The front corner panel had a flat area stamped in it, so I used guidecoat to keep the edges sharp when blocking. Blocked the flat area first, shot more guidecoat, then blocked the sides- using the block to the rounded sided into the flat area so the edges of the flat spot are even.

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...46136972_n.jpg

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...61874140_n.jpg


The rear corner panel flange didn't have large/visible spot welds like the top rail flange and front corner flange had, so I faked some by making dimples with a 1/2" carbide burr. This way all of the flanges match.

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...31791448_n.jpg


Dimples added.

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...88907593_n.jpg



Bodywork finished, blocked with 80 and 180.

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...80221338_n.jpg


Shot with three coats of K93.

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...74128275_n.jpg


Checking the reflection while its wet.

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Corners came out great after more sanding/guidecoating of the Slick Sand to finalize the shape.

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...60317214_n.jpg

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...12124005_n.jpg

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Shot of the fake spot weld indentions.

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...05438383_n.jpg


Crisp edges on the corner panel.

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...12636073_n.jpg

flashed 07-09-2013 06:35 PM

Re: '55 International Metal/Body/Paint Work
 
WOW ,that looks great .

plainred65 07-09-2013 06:37 PM

Re: '55 International Metal/Body/Paint Work
 
Very nice! Details like this really show up in the finished product.

theastronaut 07-16-2013 04:27 PM

Re: '55 International Metal/Body/Paint Work
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flashed (Post 6164744)
WOW ,that looks great .

Quote:

Originally Posted by plainred65 (Post 6164748)
Very nice! Details like this really show up in the finished product.

Thanks dudes! I can't wait to see it painted!


I straightened the top rail and shot it and the fenderwell with epoxy to finish up the passenger side.

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...98139351_n.jpg

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...57700078_n.jpg


Started on the driver side bed, straightening the metal out so I can start the bodywork.

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...85548162_n.jpg

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...56295418_n.jpg


This area was warped pretty bad from the kink in the top rail and not having the doubling plate that the passenger side had. It was bowed in around 3/16" of an inch in the center. This is a shot of the initial shrinking before straightening the dents with a hammer/dolly. The shrinking disc is amazing at evenly shrinking large areas! I've quit using the acetylene torch for shrinking, this works much better and faster.

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...92734749_n.jpg


After more hammer/dolly work and pulling down the high/warped spots with the shrinking disc. It's nice being able to get inside the bed to heat shrink the high spots on the inside (lows from the outside). I did probably 90% of the straightening with the shrinking disc, only used the hammer/dolly on the individual dents. The disc took care of the overall shape.

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...83352415_n.jpg

dantimdad 07-17-2013 04:01 PM

Re: '55 International Metal/Body/Paint Work
 
Can you elaborate on the shrinking disk?

Thanks,
Steven

theastronaut 07-17-2013 06:19 PM

Re: '55 International Metal/Body/Paint Work
 
Sure, the disc is an older Sunchaser shrinking disc on a 15 amp/8500 rpm Bosch grinder. You'd want to wear earplugs and make sure all your fingers and toes are out of the way when you hit the switch, it's a pretty scary tool at first! :shock: You hammer/dolly all your dents out, hold the disc over the high spots to heat them, then quickly cool the spot with a wet rag. The disc only heats the area it contacts so it doesn't overheat the surrounding metal like using a torch does. Check out some videos on youtube of them in action, I tried to record a video but the memory on the camera was too full.

dantimdad 07-18-2013 12:33 PM

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cool thanks!

chevyrestoguy 07-19-2013 11:02 AM

Re: '55 International Metal/Body/Paint Work
 
Those shrinking discs work great, and yeah, they are noisy! Just make sure you inspect it closely before you use it each time. Over time, they can start to crack, and they can come apart when they wear out.

I was really skeptical when I first saw them, and I watched a live demonstration when Sunchaser used to sell them at the Pomona swapmeet. They had an old '30s Plymouth front fender, and they bashed a giant dent in it, and after about 3 minutes of hammer and dolly work and about 3 minutes with the shrinker, it was gone. I was sold! I bought one right on the spot.

theastronaut 07-29-2013 02:19 PM

Re: '55 International Metal/Body/Paint Work
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chevyrestoguy (Post 6180373)
Those shrinking discs work great, and yeah, they are noisy! Just make sure you inspect it closely before you use it each time. Over time, they can start to crack, and they can come apart when they wear out.

I was really skeptical when I first saw them, and I watched a live demonstration when Sunchaser used to sell them at the Pomona swapmeet. They had an old '30s Plymouth front fender, and they bashed a giant dent in it, and after about 3 minutes of hammer and dolly work and about 3 minutes with the shrinker, it was gone. I was sold! I bought one right on the spot.


Danny Wickett of Hot Rod Construction told us about them and gave us an older disc to try out... I'm hooked! Btw, look him up, he has some amazing builds, especially the "Lomad"! http://www.hotrodconstruction.com

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theastronaut 07-29-2013 02:27 PM

Re: '55 International Metal/Body/Paint Work
 
The rough bodywork on the rear 2/3's of the bedside if done and in Slick Sand, ready to block flat. The front corner was giving me fits (bottom edge was folded inward under the wrap around corner) but I worked out most of that this morning. I found a sealer to use on the large gaps under the bed floor- Fusor 121 Flexible Foam. It expands 10X the size of what's dispensed and cures with a waterproof shell around it. It is open cell inside though, which I found out once I started trimming the excess back... Not crazy about that but it's too late to change it. I can shoot undercoating on it to seal it back up underneath, and the topside will have Line-X bedliner over it so it should be fine.

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...76722362_n.jpg


The gap underneath, 3/8" tall.
http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...87277275_n.jpg


I'll run a bead of regular seam sealer over this since the foam will support it.

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...04550801_n.jpg


After applying the Fusor foam... it makes a mess!

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...49778415_n.jpg

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duallyjams 07-29-2013 06:16 PM

Re: '55 International Metal/Body/Paint Work
 
Now that looks like something that I would do with the sealer, but your end result I'm sure will be way better then what I would do.

theastronaut 08-06-2013 08:43 PM

Re: '55 International Metal/Body/Paint Work
 
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Originally Posted by duallyjams (Post 6195506)
Now that looks like something that I would do with the sealer, but your end result I'm sure will be way better then what I would do.

The foam was supposed to be a sealer... but it ended up being open cell with a skin over it. The cavity was 3/8 tall by about 5" wide, and 1.5" deep so I couldn't get regular sealer in there. I did trim the top back and put regular sealer at that seam. Once the bedliner is sprayed in there won't be anyway moisture can get through the top side.

theastronaut 08-06-2013 09:11 PM

Re: '55 International Metal/Body/Paint Work
 
More detail sanding on the left bedside.

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...37558723_n.jpg

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...23864584_n.jpg



Added fake spot welds where the original ones didn't show.

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...24618323_n.jpg

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...46763903_n.jpg


Using guide coat to make sure the radius around the raised edge is even all around.

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...88729473_n.jpg

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...68078981_n.jpg


After re-guidecoating and sanding the flat area with 180. This shows how far and how evenly the radius extends into the flat area.

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...88663663_n.jpg



Front shot with Slick Sand. I'll have the left side in K93 this week and start prepping the inside of the bed for Line-X. Won't be long before I spray paint!

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...psa93a298e.jpg

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theastronaut 08-07-2013 07:43 PM

Re: '55 International Metal/Body/Paint Work
 
Had some help on the International today, we hired a new guy to do bodywork this week. He's done restoration work before so he's a great fit at the shop. We knocked out prepping the right inner bedside for epoxy/Line-X today after lunch. We'll do the other side and shoot epoxy Friday.

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...06240341_n.jpg

MP&C 08-07-2013 08:29 PM

Re: '55 International Metal/Body/Paint Work
 
How are you forming the "spot welds" ?

theastronaut 08-07-2013 09:49 PM

Re: '55 International Metal/Body/Paint Work
 
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Originally Posted by MP&C (Post 6209970)
How are you forming the "spot welds" ?

I used a 1/2" ball shaped carbide burr in a straight die grinder, 5/8" would match a factory weld divot better though. A buddy of mine showed me that trick when he was replacing quarters on a mustang and wanted to replicate the spot welds on the wheel arches. I've been doing it ever since- it makes rockers look like they've never been replaced!

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