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06-20-2018, 10:26 AM | #1 |
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Advice on this gun
I am thinking about buying this gun.
Devilbliss Finishline FLG-4 from TP Tools. Comes with 1.3, 1.5, & 1.8 tips. http://www.tptools.com/DeVILBISS-Fin...-Kit,7172.html This will be my first paint job and I'll probably be using the Blitz Black from John Deer. Any members here have any experience with this gun? thank you in advance.
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06-20-2018, 12:41 PM | #2 |
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I have one. I only use for primer and utility stuff. It's not going to be a base clear gun but will probably do fine on single stage solvent based materials. It should be fine on alkyd enamels like the JD paint.
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06-21-2018, 01:58 PM | #3 |
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First off I want to say that I'm not a professional and I'm probably just like you who would like to start painting your own projects. I'm doing a 72 k10 with all the rust repair and body filler needs. I've posted questions here and got great advice and also did alot of research online and YouTube. I did spray some epoxy primer from SPI a couple of weeks ago with great results through a cheap Harbor freight gun ,but from what I've read and talked to others guys is that the gun will work great multiple times then start messing up. So I decided to buy another gun for primer incase this happens while painting and it came today . It's a devilbiss flg4 678 with the 1.8 and 2.2 tips which is actually the same as the flg4 670 but with different tips and you can also interchange them also. I have the flg4 670 to spray my base and clear but haven't got that far yet to try it. If I was you get on YouTube and type in The Gunman as he has done several videos on the flg and also lots of other guns that he has reviewed also. You'll see for a weekend warrior it's a pretty good gun and can do alot of different things. But also remember everyone has a different opinion about the same product. I think you'll be fine with this gun .
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06-21-2018, 05:39 PM | #4 |
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I am also no expert either but I use that gun. I did lot of searching and looking at reviews for that gun and found a lot of positives about it. I have only used it a few times for a base coat clear coat and it sprayed really well. I didn't want to spend big bucks on a gun that I will only use a few times. I also have a set of cheapo guns that I use for primers. I think they came in a kit of 3 for $60.00.
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06-21-2018, 07:11 PM | #5 |
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Thanks Gents! I appreciate the comments from guys especially, those who have actually used/owned this particular gun. TP Tools has this at a pretty decent price so I'm gonna pull the trigger and start practicing my technique so I can do a good job on 'game day'.
more to follow.
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06-22-2018, 10:07 AM | #6 | |
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And you can also go to a body shop and get a few fenders they are throwing out and practice on them. We have given panels out of the metal bin to guys for this a few times over the years where I work. A Honda fender, it weights less than your car keys so it's easy to carry around and work on. Spend the time and the few bucks on the paint and clear to get comfortable spraying. Brian
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You are spot on with your reply here , I purchased the same gun as he is looking at , I also shot my Cab with SPI epoxy with this gun with great results , then shot the inside of the cab with base and started to have issues with the gun laying clear . I had to switch guns at that point , I called Devilbliss and they sent me out a rebuild kit (for free ) after doing the rebuild at some point I tryed to use the gun again to shoot some rims and the problem came back as I was shooting the rims ,again leaving me to switch guns , They have excellent customer service ,but I have not yet been able to complete one project with this gun. on the other hand the Iwatta I have has never let me down in any stage of painting although it was expensive to set up to clear coat and spay diffrent base paints . |
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06-22-2018, 10:03 AM | #8 |
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I know one thing, paint guns are no different than wrenches, you need a bunch! So having that gun to use on some things and another for the basecoat isn't an issue. If you were to use that for only primer for instance, I have four guns modern for this reason!
I have a number more that are now just garage art. LOL Brian
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06-22-2018, 10:13 AM | #10 | |
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Now I just used a 2.0 tip on my epoxy primer inside the cab, but it was because of the guns design that I used it. And it PILED on that primer! http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=765811 I WILL NOT be using that big of a tip on the outside or dash or anything that needs the primer applied properly. Now understand, you can get away with it, if it's warm out, if you have fast gun movement, little overlap, a bunch of factors can keep down the film thickness and solvent being applied so you don't trap it. So you can get away with it, I just grab a different gun to solve the problem. Solvent entrapment is the number one, NUMBER 1 cause of paint failures hands down. So you want to do anything you can to avoid it. Brian
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06-22-2018, 10:21 AM | #11 |
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Martin,
what does it mean to trap solvents? Maybe I could get a 1.8 or 1.7 tip for this gun?
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06-22-2018, 11:03 AM | #12 |
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traping solvents ,in a nutshell he is saying that the chemical make up of the product needs to release gases as it changes from its liquid state to a dry material
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Link to the flg5???&
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Hey guys, I found these on Amazon and grabbed them. Getting close to shooting epoxy, I can report back on my experience. Have any of you tried or have these? Here is the link, I thought price was low, was I correct? Check them out.....https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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06-30-2018, 08:28 AM | #17 |
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I watched one youtube video that said they were complete garbage.
The very next video said the primer gun with the larger tip worked great for epoxies and heavier primers (fillers/high build). The gun for base/clear not so much. And then the next video shows a DIY guy build a homemade booth in his garage, use this set up for both primers and paint/clears and the car turned out exceptional. Like most tools it is the guy turning the wrench (spray gun) as much as it is the tool itself (in a lot of cases) I just sprayed the inside of my top recently. I used a $10 Harbor Freight gun with a 2.0 tip to spray the epoxy. I had one hiccup as I left a little bit of the 'goo' they treat the inner parts of the gun with to stop up the tip. A quick mid-spray cleaning and the gun really did a good job with the epoxy. I have another 'bo-bo' internet gun ($40-50) that I shot the paint with and I think it turned out incredible. (Granted the texture on the top is really, really forgiving, but it looks great still the same) With all that babbling, let us know what you think about your guns. I'm still in the market for a new gun. And my trucks are daily drivers, hunters, fishers, trailer pullers, and weekend cruisers so I can't see $5-6-800 for a spray gun. One the cost but two, my skill set would not know the difference. Scott |
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Scott,
I agree with you. Most of the time, when I buy a tool, I make my decision based on advice/reviews, my gut and then what my budget will allow. I try to get the best quality that does the job while maintaining a budget. I did find this atom x20 spray gun here and went for it. https://www.zoolaa.com/collections/s...onal-spray-gun I haven't sprayed with it yet but so far, I am very happy with the quality of this gun.
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A step up to the GFG-670 would be a smart move for just a little more money. I have a SATA 4000 RP, and have used a friend's 670. They spray pretty similar, with the 670 being slightly slower and more controllable. Both give incredible results.
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I have the primer kit version of this gun, and it’s awesome. I was trying to use a regular gun for primer and epoxy, but would always “burn thru”. With this gun i get enough material on to do some fine sanding and really shape my panels. Now for my finish gun i have the sata 5000 rp and hvlp.
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