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Old 08-14-2011, 03:25 AM   #101
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Re: Rebuild on a shoestring.....continued

Thanks for checking out the build. It's a 67-68 wheel and it is a 16 1/2" diameter wheel. Hope that helps.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the info. You've Been a great help! Thinking of running a old pearl wheel from a kenworth. Cheers
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Old 08-14-2011, 09:40 PM   #103
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Sold a bunch of parts locally as well as on here so I've got funds now....just gotta be smart with them

Looking forward to tomorrow evening when I go back over to work on it again at the body shop
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Old 08-15-2011, 06:21 AM   #104
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I still have a LOOOOONG way to go to be as organized as I like....I really just need space and shelving...right now too much is boxed up. It's divided by type of part...but still means I have to look through the box to find what I need and invariably it's on the bottom of the box and I make a mess out of everything trying to get to it...
Amen Brother!!!

I have this huge shop and cant find anything. I need shelving and some kind of storage where the overspray doesn't get all over everything. I Still cant believe what a mess the bodywork and paint jobs cause. I need to gut my shop and start over completely.

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Old 08-15-2011, 10:43 PM   #105
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Amen Brother!!!

I have this huge shop and cant find anything. I need shelving and some kind of storage where the overspray doesn't get all over everything. I Still cant believe what a mess the bodywork and paint jobs cause. I need to gut my shop and start over completely.

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I know what you mean about the overspray!!! The cool thing is this time I'm working at the actual body shop...

Just got back from there tonight. Glenn (body guy) got the rocker finished (made a custom piece for the front and welded it in). I got the four cab mounts trimmed and ready for him to weld in. And we made a patch for the driver's floor pan and got that welded in. I got my first experience welding tonight......and I need A LOT of practice It wasn't too bad but I had a hard time seeing even w/ a nice auto dimming helmet...and ended up going off line a couple times and blowing through the metal around it....but in the end I got it done and other than looking like a bunch of buggers it is in....

Gene went behind me and cleaned up the welds...so it's nice and solid now...

pics to follow in a bit....
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Old 08-16-2011, 07:01 AM   #106
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I know what you mean about the overspray!!! The cool thing is this time I'm working at the actual body shop...

Just got back from there tonight. Glenn (body guy) got the rocker finished (made a custom piece for the front and welded it in). I got the four cab mounts trimmed and ready for him to weld in. And we made a patch for the driver's floor pan and got that welded in. I got my first experience welding tonight......and I need A LOT of practice It wasn't too bad but I had a hard time seeing even w/ a nice auto dimming helmet...and ended up going off line a couple times and blowing through the metal around it....but in the end I got it done and other than looking like a bunch of buggers it is in....

Gene went behind me and cleaned up the welds...so it's nice and solid now...

pics to follow in a bit....
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When I first started welding I found the same thing with how my welds looked except I thought they looked more like Chicken Crap!!!LOL The trick is to take some metal and just practice till you get it. The problem is with 40 some odd year old metal your dealing with rust and inpurities and its way harder to weld on that. My Son Ian is a really good welder (Which Works out good for Me) and he makes welding look easy. Problem is he tends to do most of the welding so I dont practice near as much as I should. We are getting ready to weld the floor pan complete from the fire wall to the trunk on my 67 GTO Convertible and that has both of us a little nervous just from the size of the sheet metal we are welding in. Glad to hear your not having to mess up your shop with the bodywork, I forsee a two day deep cleaning for my shop in the near future before I start putting my current project together. Im really enjoying watching your build and look forward to some more pictures.

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Old 08-16-2011, 06:26 PM   #107
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I found out when I was almost done that I was holding the tip too far away...my fear was ruining his welder so I wasn't getting enough heat. Plus, I wasn't holding down the trigger long enough for fear of burning holes through the old metal. The only time I burned through was when I got off track and welded on un-sanded rusty metal. I just had an issue seeing anything when I was welding....
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Old 08-16-2011, 06:59 PM   #108
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This is the perfect platform to learn on - if it were the BBSuperSWB you would turn the welder on yourself!
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Old 08-16-2011, 08:24 PM   #109
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Old 08-17-2011, 02:27 AM   #110
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Well, here are the pics.....finally...

This is the worst spot on the truck....passenger floor/cab mount




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So....I needed to make a patch panel. Gene laid it out for me and we finally found a way to use my tri-plus inner door patch....(it's the only tri-plus panel I've ever used that didn't fit--it was WAAAY off )



So...I get it cut out.


As I'm grinding my hand feels warm as the sparks hit the inside curve of the patch.....
I look down and ooops....
melted my mechanix gloves



At least I was wearing the gloves so I saved the inside of my fingers.....although I also burned my forearms....looked like tiny dots all over my arm and itched like crazy last night but feels fine today.
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Old 08-17-2011, 02:34 AM   #112
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Here you can see Glenn welding over my welds to make sure the patch is good....it'll be okay once it's ground down...

You can also see the custom patch he made from a non-tri plus rocker (the one we tried and ended up going with the partial tri-plus piece because it fit so bad...) Even on this small patch he had to pie cut it and tac, hammer and tac, hammer and tac...to get it in place. Will take the door off to weld the front edge and grind it down.


And here's the patch in...again...he had to weld over my poor welds....
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Old 08-17-2011, 02:38 AM   #113
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I'm going to wire wheel the floor plan to take off the surface rust/scale...the rest of both floor plans are really solid actually other than the same area but smaller on the driver's side. Have a couple more small patches to make to get this all sealed up. Then I'll grind down, apply seam sealer, and then paint the floor with some rust converter then undercoating. After that, the black floor mat will go down...
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Old 08-17-2011, 02:40 AM   #114
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Good to see ya givin welding a crack! One thing I learnt in trade school was when your welder is set right it should sound like tearing fabric and I always try to set the welder up on a piece of metal as thick as the job your welding. Do a few runs and fine tune it. Not trying to be a smart a$$! Just tryin to help. Keep at it mate. Practice makes perfect! Cheers
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Good to see ya givin welding a crack! One thing I learnt in trade school was when your welder is set right it should sound like tearing fabric and I always try to set the welder up on a piece of metal as thick as the job your welding. Do a few runs and fine tune it. Not trying to be a smart a$$! Just tryin to help. Keep at it mate. Practice makes perfect! Cheers
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Any/all advice appreciated. Like I said...my biggest issue (besides inexperience ) was not being able to see what I was doing...couldn't see how far the tip was from the metal and even where the gap was to weld...
...before I try again I'm definitely going to practice on some clean scrap sheetmetal...to get the speed down and distance and try to adjust the welding helmet so I can see

Any advice on that? (adjusting the welding helmet) it's electronic
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Old 08-17-2011, 04:35 AM   #116
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I have only used a cheap auto helmet once, I normally use an ol' flip down one. But as far as I remember I think no 8 shaded was for mig. I'd just start at the darkest setting and arc it on scrap metal adjusting the shade down till you can see. Hope it helps. Cheers
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On the welding sometimes ive found that if you have good light that is directed right at the place your welding and placed so its not faced towards the helmet it really helps you see better. Now the real advice I have for you is to find a magnifying lense and tape it to the inside of your helmet, thats how Im able to see the welding surface better. Now 20 years ago I probably wouldn't have needed the Magnifying lense.

Are you going to fix the kick Panel and the seam above where you welded in the patch panel on the floor? Ive found that the seam running across the floor is prone for rust so probably to be safe look for pin holes and weld them shut then grind that seam and put POR 15 on them to keep them from rusting in the future. These are things Ive found in my builds so Im just suggesting that they may be problem areas in the future so you might want to take care of them while you have it apart. This is a great build.

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I have only used a cheap auto helmet once, I normally use an ol' flip down one. But as far as I remember I think no 8 shaded was for mig. I'd just start at the darkest setting and arc it on scrap metal adjusting the shade down till you can see. Hope it helps. Cheers
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On the welding sometimes ive found that if you have good light that is directed right at the place your welding and placed so its not faced towards the helmet it really helps you see better. Now the real advice I have for you is to find a magnifying lense and tape it to the inside of your helmet, thats how Im able to see the welding surface better. Now 20 years ago I probably wouldn't have needed the Magnifying lense.

Are you going to fix the kick Panel and the seam above where you welded in the patch panel on the floor? Ive found that the seam running across the floor is prone for rust so probably to be safe look for pin holes and weld them shut then grind that seam and put POR 15 on them to keep them from rusting in the future. These are things Ive found in my builds so Im just suggesting that they may be problem areas in the future so you might want to take care of them while you have it apart. This is a great build.

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Thanks guys. Yes, we're going to make some small patches for the kick panel...then it will be ground down, hit with por15 or similar rust converter and then seam sealer.

No work by me on this for the next several days as my wife goes in at 6:15 tomorrow for a planned c-section for our third daughter...
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Hope all goes well for your wife and you and your 3rd daughter. Looks like your new project is coming along well. Sorry the 72 Super build didn't work out.

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congrats Jonathan....hope Mom and babes do good...keep us posted!!!
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Thanks guys. Yes, we're going to make some small patches for the kick panel...then it will be ground down, hit with por15 or similar rust converter and then seam sealer.

No work by me on this for the next several days as my wife goes in at 6:15 tomorrow for a planned c-section for our third daughter...
Man it seems like everyone on the board is having babies.

Progress is looking pretty good too. It'll be nice to look down and see sheet metal instead of rust holes.
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Jonathan, here's photos of exhaust.
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Is that the new invisible style?
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hey shouldnt u be asleep or is it almost time for u to go to hospital. congrats. i sure freaked out when my son was being born.
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