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10-21-2013, 06:33 PM | #1 | |
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Coating a rear housing is very doable. I've done a few but they're kind of a pain. You get them clean, then when the heat hits them, old traces of oil ooze out of the cracks. You really have to clean them, cook them for a few hours, then blast them before coating. |
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10-21-2013, 11:55 PM | #2 |
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Quck ID, if there are 3 pinions or ends of cross shafts it is a G80 locker, if there are 4 pinions (each end of 2 cross shafts) it is an open differential.
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10-22-2013, 05:38 PM | #3 | |
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I started today off by dropping all of my hardware off at the plating shop. He said 25 dollars and one week to do it. I use these guys nearly monthly and they've never not been on time. My two speedi-sleeves for the hub sealing surface of the rearend are on their way from Rockauto. They show delivery Thrusday. Tomorrow is my big work day, but I wanted to finish up some smaller stuff today before biting off into cleaning and painting the rearend tomorrow. My wheel cylinders arrived today so I finished putting the brakes all together. I cleaned, straightened, sandblasted, and powdercoated the rearend cover. It's nowhere near nice. The cover was very, very rust pitted. I wound up powdercoating it and being unhappy with the pits so I DA sanded it to metal using the powder like filler primer to fill in the pits, and recoated it. Its much better the second time around, but I probably should have done it one more time to get it nicer. I'm not going to though. My OCD has limits. Cleaned the hubs very thoroughly. Notice the raised areas around the bolt holes from previous overtorquings. So I took it to the hillbilly machine shop. That's code speak for I used a nice big file to surface the hubs smoother. This is critical so I don't have to be one of those guys who slathers thick silicone on the to keep it from leaking. Then, clean again and powdercoat. FedEx just came by. Tomorrow should be a big day. The forecast is perfect for working, and I completely mowed my yard today so there's nothing to keep me from working myself into the ground tomorrow. I'm gonna drag the rearend outside and go medieval on cleaning and painting it. |
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10-22-2013, 06:03 PM | #4 |
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You are definitely hard core, Kevin. The truck is looking good. I have the opposite of your OCD sometimes, and I just put stuff together, with the hope of coming back to fix it.
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10-22-2013, 06:52 PM | #5 |
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Great thinking on those hubs. I know the "gasket" that GM uses is a thin steel shim that rarely seals in my experience, even with a little ultra black. Smoothing them off like that should really help with sealing.
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10-22-2013, 07:09 PM | #6 | |
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First, I wanted to say I spun the gear carrier and counted 3 pins so I guess I have a Gov-Loc. I've heard a lot of unflattering stuff about them, but never really paid attention very closely to the details. As far as the gaskets, I got these from Rockauto. They were like 2 bucks each. I figure I'll smear them with a real thin layer of number 2 Permatex. I've always done it that way and haven't ever had a leaker. Lets hope it works this time. I'm kind of geeking out on this stuff I know. It seems the number of participants on this thread has dwindled. I guess the details are a bit tedious and boring. When I'm done I should have a clean black rearend, black hubs and drums and all new shiny plated hardware to make the details pop. |
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Gear oil, I would use whatever Ma-General specs, I am unfamiliar with your climate, but I know in mine where there is a range of hot and cold a multi-viscosity weight gear oil is necessary. Quote:
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I notice that GM states 80W-90 and Eaton rep says 75W-90, interesting.
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10-22-2013, 07:13 PM | #8 |
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We are still here, just waiting on the money shot! Very clean work and attention to detail.
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10-22-2013, 07:49 PM | #9 |
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people say a lot of bad stuff about the G80. i dont think you will ever find cause to complain. they work pretty darn good in a stock truck with a driver that doesn't beat on the truck like a high school idiot.
they will spin just a bit and then lock in, to a fully locked differential. i've had them in in several trucks with the 14bff. nary an issue. in my big, beat it like you stole it offroad jeep, i went with a detroit to avoid any issues that may or may not have arose from the lock in while doing something abusive. and detroits are really simple without the complexity of the G80. good news is that the G80 doesnt require any special additives like a clutch type limited slip |
10-22-2013, 07:55 PM | #10 | |
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So just straight 90w type of grease with no special sauce huh ? |
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10-22-2013, 08:26 PM | #11 |
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I was just boning up on the details for this phase of the project by reading the "14 bolt bible".
http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/14b_bible/ One thing that caught my eye....axle assembly with brake drums weighs 550 pounds. Damn. I knew it was heavy, but that's a man killer right there. |
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10-23-2013, 08:16 AM | #13 |
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Still here, enjoying the details! I don't know nuthin' 'bout these big axles, kinda neat to learn!
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10-23-2013, 08:50 AM | #14 |
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I'm about to start degreasing, cleaning, and painting the rearend.
I take ghetto to a whole different level. Wheelchair.... |
10-23-2013, 09:27 AM | #15 |
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^ LOL Nice
Very few would give this truck (or any for that matter) the attention to detail that you are. That's why its an awesome thread. I get bored of build threads full of $$$ Porterbuilt, semi wheels, etc... I'm interested in the re-zinc-ifying. What kind of shop does that kind of work (machine shop?) I'd like to call around to see who does it around here. I've thought about rigging up my own zinc setup but for $25 that saves a lot of hassle. |
10-23-2013, 09:47 AM | #16 |
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Kevin, I really enjoy your builds. A highly detailed explanation of why you do certain things and mostly a hard working man's budget. I try to do a bunch of my builds/work the same as you, but without the benifits of having the PC equipment. It's just a spray bomb detail for me most of the time.
I like to come to yours for the education and the details!
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10-23-2013, 09:49 AM | #17 |
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Tip,
Several years ago I just google searched "zinc plating Fort Worth Texas" and my place popped up. All they do is plating. They have silver zinc, yellow zinc, black zinc, and several more. They also do mail order work too. I was just talking to him yesterday about that. He says that part of the business is growing. http://arrowplating.com/processes.html The minimum charge is 25 dollars. That gets you up to 25 pounds worth done. I've never had it exceed the 25 dollar charge yet. |
10-23-2013, 09:52 AM | #18 |
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Wow, that's a good price and the parts look great!
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Those parts turned out great and I would never of thought of recycling a wheel chair like that ,pretty cool idea .
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Update. The rearend is cleaned and painted. Its now sitting outside in the sunshine curing the paint. I doubt it will be perfect when I finally get a real close look at it, but its pretty decent. While I'm waiting for the paint to dry I started working on the wiring for the bed lights. It was horrible and about half of the lights worked. Here is the wiring for the three little clearance lights in the center of the bed. I started out by building a wiring harness that plugs into the factory truck plug and separates out to left and right sides of the bed. Then, I started on my plan to route the wiring under the bed. The previous job was just strung over and around whatever was close by and zip tied here and there. I have about fifty feet of EMT conduit in my scrap pile so I grabbed a couple of lengths and began work. My plan is to run a conduit down each side of the bed for the wiring to be protected in. Disregard the zip ties holding the conduit up. I still need to buy some of those little clamps to screw it securely in place. At the front (that's the gas tank in the bottom of the picture) I kicked it out along the front bed crossmember. There is a marker light in the corner there and the wiring for the overhead tailights in the headache rack runs down there too. I'll bundle It all together and run it through the conduit to the back of the truck. |
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10-23-2013, 07:27 PM | #21 |
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Very nice!
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Great work. I really like the zinc plating idea. I have been using the "remove rust with vinegar and spray with aluminum paint" trick. It works...OK. I will try and find a plating shop closer to me.
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Its so nice to have hundreds of the little pointy body bolts with built in washers all ready to go. Heck, I've got a cup full of restored starter bolts and cups of body shim, accelerator return springs, etc. |
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10-23-2013, 09:17 PM | #24 |
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Durrr... didn't even think to google it. Looks like there's a bunch of places around here, thanks for the heads up.
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Do you clean the fasteners/parts beforehand prior to taking them to Arrow? Great looking parts and fasteners, didn't even know it was possible to restore/preserve fasteners and small parts like that, now my gears are turning...why I do I think this just made things more expensive in my future?
Sorry about that gear oil/G80 word vomit earlier, didn't mean to clutter up your thread, was just sharing any knowledge I had stored away.
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