Do you ever think about Ev taking over gas power

[chewychevy67]

I have put a lot of time and money into my 67 gmc build over the last 10 years. I'm getting to my final stage of the build before assembly now. When I started the build there was really no push for electric vehicles and I had no doubts about building a gas powered vehicle but as times have changed and I continue to read about these vehicles coming in faster than I ever thought would happen, I wonder if building this vehicle is actually going to be worth it in the long run. In reality if they pan out in 15 years gas powered vehicles could be history. How long will gasoline be available for? Any thoughts on this?

[Warrens69GMC]

Video-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUC6lsLr04I

[weq92f]

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My thoughts often stray over to this subject. While I believe EVs are the future of automotive transportation ( more specifically: both individual and mass transportation on the ground ), the prevalence of gasoline powered engines in use today across the planet for all manner of other purposes tells me that the fuel itself will not be going away any time soon. It is likely that major consumers of it will be regulated out of existence long before gasoline is phased out completely. That is, I think we will see EVs replace gasoline powered automobiles and trucks before we see gasoline become unavailable altogether.

What I hope to see is that enthusiasts like us get a carve out so that we may still play with our old petrol technology power plants in our classic iron cars. Imagine a future where the only time you see/hear a classic rumbling down the street is on the weekends near a car show!

-klb

[chewychevy67]

That was a good video. Thanks for sharing that

[HO455]

Here's a video from earlier this year on the oil extraction and refining industries. Remember that as long as plastic is ubiquitous in the world gasoline will be available. The $20,000 question is at what price? And it will always be easier to convert our trucks to electric power than a 70 Barracuda or a 65 Mustang.
Enjoy the videos. I have really enjoyed the Wendover videos on air travel.

https://gcaptain.com/video-how-offshore-oil-rigs-work/

https://youtu.be/lNYPdxSK7Do

[CABLESCUM]

We have been busy using up the worlds oil supply for quite some time, so we’ll have all that’s left in the end. After/if that runs out by the time I’m done, I’ll just get a bigger still and run Ethanol(whatever I don’t drink)🍺😝

[lutronjim]

I posted this some time ago - it was moved.
GM was considering a 'connect and cruise' EV package

[mr48chev]

Think of it this way, every all electric vehicle reduces the competition for gas or petroleum based fuel.. That may include your daily drive to work rig that doesn't drink the gas that your fun rig uses.

Those of us who live in the west outside of the I 5 corridor or major cities can honestly say that there are areas of the west were all electric vehicles may never be practical for anything except local driving. Next gas 110 miles signs aren't uncommon. Plug ins will be a lot harder to find in those areas for a long time.

As the cost of the batteries comes down or aftermarket units become available I see more guys powering their rides with electric though. Battery packs don't take up that much room in the bed or hidden under a raised bed floor in a C 10 and those Tesla electric motors/drive trains may come available at an affordable price to where guys think about doing the swap and the bigger sedans rip as far acceleration goes.

Still I am not getting in an uproar over it, Look at the guys on here who stuck an LS in their trucks and with the right combo seriously upped their gas mileage and have a lot stronger running truck to boot.

[1976gmc20]

Just where is all this electricity supposed to come from ?????

CA can't even run AC right now.

[67ChevyRedneck]

Originally Posted by 1976gmc20

Just where is all this electricity supposed to come from ?????

CA can't even run AC right now.

That was my exact thought. Our electrical grid as a whole can barely meet current demand and nobody seems to want to pay to upgrade it, and shifting to environmentally friendly options aren't helping... Wind turbines don't run on a calm day, solar panels don't collect solar on a cloudy day and we still don't have a good way to store it. CA has to buy electricity from neighboring states to fill in the gaps their "green" energy creates, and it's still not enough.

[lousyflyer]

What is needed is a modern day Nikola Tesla. Someone with the genius of forward thought not saddled by small minded developers.

Tesla had many theories that we could use now, like avoiding power line losses by transmitting electricity through the air. Or encouraging lightning strikes at predetermined locations so the energy could be captured and utilized.

We should probably overlook his phobia about not eating food unless it was divided into portions divisible by the number three.
Or being creeped out by women with things on their ears.

Tesla - Innovator, Genius, Confirmed bachelor.

[57taskforce]

Originally Posted by 67ChevyRedneck

That was my exact thought. Our electrical grid as a whole can barely meet current demand and nobody seems to want to pay to upgrade it, and shifting to environmentally friendly options aren't helping... Wind turbines don't run on a calm day, solar panels don't collect solar on a cloudy day and we still don't have a good way to store it. CA has to buy electricity from neighboring states to fill in the gaps their "green" energy creates, and it's still not enough.

They can’t even buy coal power from anyone. The coal plant 2 miles from my house used to sell to them until it became illegal to use coal fired electricity in CA. I’m sure it’s only a matter of time before they ban the usage of Gas fired electricity as well if they haven’t already.

Like it or not fossil fuels aren’t going anywhere anytime soon. 99% of everything you consume on a daily basis has underpinnings to fossil fuels in some way or another, whether it’s diesel fuel used to transport it, the electricity used to make it, the oil used to make it; crude oil goes into way more than just plastic, hell even the solar panels and wind turbines require parts made with crude.
I feed my family with oil and gas money and I’m proud to be producing American Oil and gas. If I was concerned about the long term viability of my industry I would have left a long time ago. There’s just too much of a foundation in fossil fuels for the Nation let alone the rest of the world to jump ship in oil in the next 50 to 100 years.

As for electric cars, the battery tech is going to have to get way better before they’ll ever be useful out here in the west. 100+ mile intervals with no towns, gas stations, or charging infrastructure makes it pretty tough. I can count on one hand, the Tesla’s I’ve seen here and they all had out of state plates. No one is going to buy them here until they can get more range.

[franken]

The power has to come from somewhere. Power generation needs to double, yet there are rolling blackouts in CA.
Wind and solar are small contributors and unreliable. The only answer is nuclear power, which is unpopular. Buying an electric car that actually runs on electricity generated by coal and gas, then claiming to be an environmentalist is dumb as well as inefficient. Each conversion creates inefficiencies.
The raw material for batteries is difficult to mine and hard on the environment.

People say we need to stop using fossil fuels, but I don't see the masses moving into trees, or caves, and no one stopping the buying of stuff from China, the largest polluter on the planet.

[yuccales]

Originally Posted by lutronjim

I posted this some time ago - it was moved.
GM was considering a 'connect and cruise' EV package

If this was the post about the "E-10", very interesting.

https://electrek.co/2019/11/05/gm-el...ncept-bolt-ev/

[special-K]

The energy issues in today's world that need to be solved for the future are fossil fuel powered motor vehicles and, more so, electric generation as we know it today. I see electric cars as a short sighted band aid solution. On the green side of things, hydro-electric has always been a green way of generation going back to the beginnings of electricity use. But today those are now being decommissioned and destroyed to allow rivers to run free. I see a puppy chasing it's tail and I am all about nature and rivers running free. The fact is, something has to be sacrificed to support the need for electricity that the world is undoubtedly dependent on. Wind is a great solution for electric generation, but we even have people complaining they are eye sores or they kill birds. The same people have no problem with swathes of forest cleared away for powerlines of monster-like framework crossing the landscape. I don't see EV taking the place of gas powered cars. They, like so many other notions and concepts in the world are completely based on urban/suburban mentality. These people eat food and rely on natural resources, including water, that come from parts of the world they can't see so therefore tend to not have them in mind. We also have the right to choose where we live and what type of lifestyle we choose. And many chose to not live on top of each other in the name of convenience and a sense of security that are as false as they are real. I wouldn't worry about what the agenda pushers/so called forward thinkers are predicting. I see them as more interested in selling their product as being concerned for society. Just a new field to make money in our capitalist world.

[1976gmc20]

encouraging lightning strikes at predetermined locations so the energy could be captured and utilized.

Great Scott! One point two jigga-watts!

[Grumpy old man]

One good solar flare or EMP and the "greenies" will be burning anything they can get that burns , and a first gen v8/6 manual with a points dist will be worth it's weight in gold .

[The Rocknrod]

Tesla is dead, we have people right now with the brains he had. Look what some of the leaders in the field are accomplishing already. For some reason people think "We need some good old fashion UFO technology", Not gonna happen. If, when or as the technology is useful it will be embraced and sold on the open market. There and only there will it work, when and as it works for people. I'm not at all worried because it will be embraced and used the better it becomes. Give it time to develop. The more it's developed and used the less fossil fuels are used. Is that good? I'll say this, unless certain states can open up the power plant construction market it wont be I know that.

[Rickysnickers]

Originally Posted by 1976gmc20

Just where is all this electricity supposed to come from ?????

CA can't even run AC right now.

That's exactly what I have always thought. How much are states going to have to update their power grids in order to accommodate all the EVs? How much is that going to cost? Some are already on the ragged edge of being under powered (if that's the correct term). How is all the electricity going to be generated? Sorry, but I don't believe that there will ever be enough solar panels or wind mills to generate that kind of power. I will stick with my gas powered cars and trucks.

[Boog]

I don't think it will happen in my remaining years. Therefore I am still putting money into this '69 with a carb'd gas burner.

[special-K]

Let me answer the question asked in the title. No

[lousyflyer]

Here is what I believe will occur in the next 50 years:

1. Gasoline engines will be phased out of production passenger vehicles.
2. Fuel for internal combustion engines will become too expensive for the
average car owner, leaving only racers and hardcore collectors as customers.
3. Autonamously driven vehicles will take over, further increasing the need to
remove human drivers from the road.

And here's the one that is absolutely inevitable -
4. Cars will only be available for lease periods, after which you turn the vehicle
in for recycling. This removes unsafe or outdated systems from the road.

If you do happen to own a manually driven gas vehicle, the insurance companies will not cover it. So you can only drive it around your yard or at special events.

The horseless carriage is about to to follow the horse drawn carriage into obscurity.

[FleetsidePaul]

It's been tried before.



But I hope Tesla Motors does well. I own stock in it.

I personally don't see much difference between a Corolla and a Tesla except the Tesla hauls ass. I bought my daughter a Corolla (Yawn) It's a good car but it is so dull.

I don't think you can compare them to a 69 Z28 They are two different animals.
But when it comes to the boring cars today. Really... Whats the difference?

I drive older cars. Because I enjoy them. I enjoy the rumble and the smell of the exhaust. But I put my loved ones in new safe cars.

[prairewolf]

if they did, when you are stuck on the side of the road, you won't have to tell the mechanic that the problem might be electrical. ... wait a minute, it won't be a mechanic, it will be an electrician.

[special-K]

Originally Posted by lousyflyer

Here is what I believe will occur in the next 50 years:

1. Gasoline engines will be phased out of production passenger vehicles.
2. Fuel for internal combustion engines will become too expensive for the
average car owner, leaving only racers and hardcore collectors as customers.
3. Autonamously driven vehicles will take over, further increasing the need to
remove human drivers from the road.

And here's the one that is absolutely inevitable -
4. Cars will only be available for lease periods, after which you turn the vehicle
in for recycling. This removes unsafe or outdated systems from the road.

If you do happen to own a manually driven gas vehicle, the insurance companies will not cover it. So you can only drive it around your yard or at special events.

The horseless carriage is about to to follow the horse drawn carriage into obscurity.

Actually, if I would still be around in 50 years when all this you predict comes to be, I see the return of the horse drawn days. Things would be beyond my threshold of tolerance and I would gladly step outside of society and leave the grid entirely. That doesn't sound like a world I'd ever want to live in