Going on air, some advice please

[shawno72]

Ok I am slowly building up my air ride parts swap. I have a set of Slam Specialties SS-7 bags and rear plates on the way, thanks Keith. For now I will probably run shraders. I want to start with getting the tank and compressor. I already have the front bag plates, Thanks Gilbert. So I will go with another set of SS-7s for the front. Will this tank and compressor do the trick? I am thinking of going with DLOE's manual valves. Thoughts? Am I on the right track?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/181090615635...84.m1423.l2649

http://www.ebay.com/itm/370758087072...84.m1423.l2649

[N2TRUX]

Those are good choices, I would just add to them. The cost of a ViAir twin pack is so cheap that I would but two and run a back up. The 3 gallon tank is enough for one end, but not both. I would run two 3 gallon, or one 5 gallon.

[shawno72]

Originally Posted by N2TRUX

Those are good choices, I would just add to them. The cost of a ViAir twin pack is so cheap that I would but two and run a back up. The 3 gallon tank is enough for one end, but not both. I would run two 3 gallon, or one 5 gallon.

Ok so a 5 gallon tank with two compressors should get I done. I see some guys using 3 gallon tanks so that's why I figured it would be enough. Anyone have any diagrams of how to run the lines?
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[N2TRUX]

One 5 gallon or two 3 gallon will give you enough air for a full suspension cycle with out a refill. The Viair compressors are really reliable so one will work, but two is alwys better for faster fill times and back in the event one ever did fail.

I'll post some diagrams in a few..

[broey]

hey, I plan on running one viair 400 with a 3 gallon tank also with my 59 im building. I chose this set up based on the fact that Dino has used it on the last three trucks he built, along with dloe valves and it has worked really well..

[Pro Performance]

I agree with Ken... an ideal setup is 2 compressors with a 5 gallon tank. Although we do a 4 gallon tank with our air management kits, but use 200 PSI. You can always add a second compressors later, but as mentioned, it is a little cheaper in the long run to get a dual pack from the start. Plus the dual 400 pack comes with a pressure switch and 2 relays.

I can get you a single chrome 400C for cheaper than that eBay listed if interested. Of course, I can get the tanks as well. The aluminum run a little more, but you don't have to worry about them rusting and they are very light. The 3 gallon will lift the front, but might take a little bit to gain pressure again for the rear. The rear doesn't take much because it is light.

- Travis

[shawno72]

Originally Posted by broey

hey, I plan on running one viair 400 with a 3 gallon tank also with my 59 im building. I chose this set up based on the fact that Dino has used it on the last three trucks he built, along with dloe valves and it has worked really well..

That's what I was basing this setup off of

Originally Posted by Pro Performance

I agree with Ken... an ideal setup is 2 compressors with a 5 gallon tank. Although we do a 4 gallon tank with our air management kits, but use 200 PSI. You can always add a second compressors later, but as mentioned, it is a little cheaper in the long run to get a dual pack from the start. Plus the dual 400 pack comes with a pressure switch and 2 relays.

I can get you a single chrome 400C for cheaper than that eBay listed if interested. Of course, I can get the tanks as well. The aluminum run a little more, but you don't have to worry about them rusting and they are very light. The 3 gallon will lift the front, but might take a little bit to gain pressure again for the rear. The rear doesn't take much because it is light.

- Travis

Travis can you get me a price for a 4 gallon tank and one 400c shipped to 95240 business addy? Thank you.
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[72BlckButy]

Keep in with Travis and he will get you squared away.

[Pro Performance]

Originally Posted by shawno72

That's what I was basing this setup off of


Travis can you get me a price for a 4 gallon tank and one 400c shipped to 95240 business addy? Thank you.
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PM Sent.

Originally Posted by 72BlckButy

Keep in with Travis and he will get you squared away.

Thanks!

[fastcam1]

I am also interested in seeing the air line diagrams
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[N2TRUX]

Originally Posted by broey

hey, I plan on running one viair 400 with a 3 gallon tank also with my 59 im building. I chose this set up based on the fact that Dino has used it on the last three trucks he built, along with dloe valves and it has worked really well..

What do you call working "really well"? I have two three gallon tanks, and I get one full up cycle from aired out. If I needed to cycle again the tanks have to fill first.

[broey]

Originally Posted by N2TRUX

What do you call working "really well"? I have two three gallon tanks, and I get one full up cycle from aired out. If I needed to cycle again the tanks have to fill first.

good question..

well to be honest here in az we have smooth flat roads where ever we go. so we lift our trucks maybe a couple inches and take off. one 3 gallon tank will get the front and read high enough to get going. if needed to lift the whole truck up the whole way you might have to wait another 30-45 seconds for the comp to fill again. (this is what I have seen with Dinos trucks)

my last truck had an engine driven compressor and a 5 gallon tank and I noticed that I had all this air, and a really fast compressor that I went out of my way to get, and never used it. I wasn't much for playing with the switches while I drove so basically seemed overkill.

also, with the Dloe valves you probably gain another 1/2 gallon or so since the lines running to the switches act like air storage too..

[N2TRUX]

I suppose it depends on your needs then. I always leave my truck at ride height when parked so I can tell if it ever leaks. To exit my driveway I need full lift, then back to ride height. When I park, of course I air out then back to cruise height. I'm not one for clowning, but I do cycle the system enough to know that 3 gallons would be on the low side of capacity.

[shawno72]

Great advice guys. I was talking to Travis about a 4 gallon tank. Haha
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[cubber]

You are on the right track, and talking to the right people. I have the twin chrome 480's from Travis, and a 9 gallon tank from ebay (chrome and just $70, shipped). I run 200 psi, so my compressors dont run a whole lot. I don't play much either. I can try to get you some pics of my hose routing, and I am curious to see the diagram, too. Where are you mounting your tank/compressors?

[shawno72]

Originally Posted by cubber

You are on the right track, and talking to the right people. I have the twin chrome 480's from Travis, and a 9 gallon tank from ebay (chrome and just $70, shipped). I run 200 psi, so my compressors dont run a whole lot. I don't play much either. I can try to get you some pics of my hose routing, and I am curious to see the diagram, too. Where are you mounting your tank/compressors?

Some pics of the hose routing would be great, thanks Matt. I still have my tank inside the cab so I'm thinking about putting the air tank behind the diff out back.

[Pro Performance]

The plumbing will vary depending on your tank ports, but here is the plumbing diagram for the manual and our Pro2 air management kits.

Manual System
Pro2 System

- Travis

[shawno72]

Thanks Travis!! I was looking on your web site and I think I'll go with the 5 gallon tank when ready, looks like its only a $5 difference?

[Pro Performance]

No problem.... yep, 5 gallon is only $5 more.

[shawno72]

Hey guys will this kit work for temporary shrader set up with the SS7 bags?

http://bit.ly/15NI2AO
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[rmvlt1100]

Originally Posted by shawno72

Hey guys will this kit work for temporary shrader set up with the SS7 bags?

http://bit.ly/15NI2AO
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Here is my opinion on just using the shrader valves. I started out the same way doing a air suspension on a previous build. It was a pain in the butt putting air in the bags taking it for a ride to see how it rode then going back putting more air in or taking air out to ge the best ride. After a while I went with valves and made life eaiser.

On my current truck I am using manual valves like the one that Travis is selling. They were only right around $100.00 for all for plus a little bit more for the tubing you can adjust the suspension on the road. I don't know how fast you want to get this on the road but it's worth the wait and is a lot eaiser then doing the trial and error for the best ride.

On another note, I am using a 5 gal. tank and 2 Viair compressors on my truck. I made a mount for the compressors for under the bed and the tank is in the cab behind the seat. I purchased the compressors through Travis and it was a great price. His company is great to deal with. Good luck on the project and have a good night.

[cubber]

Too dark for pics when I got home, will try again tomorrow. I think the closer to the center of your truck you mount the tank, the more simple it is, and less hose. also make sure you use the push type fittings that Travis sells. If you, say, forgot to order the fittings that go in your bags and try to put something together from Lowe's IT WILL LEAK! (or so I've heard, lol) I ran my lines from my rear bags up into the channel in the crossmember that the upper shock mounts are on, then up inside the frame rail. I ran the lines from the front bags inside the engine cross member everything comes together on the driver side, and runs through the firewall where thi windshield washer pump lines used to run. I'lll work on some pics. No more than the manual valves cost, I wouldn't mess with the schraders. The whole point is being able to drop it in all the parking lots, right?

[shawno72]

Thanks Matt. I definitely want to be able to drop it when I park it and then up and go I was just thinking its gonna be a couple months while I build the rest of the systems so in the meantime I would run the shrader valves so I could at least mount the rear bags. I guess I'm just impatient and want to put on what I have when I get it
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[cubber]

I'm the same way, man! It costs me a lot of money, too! lol

[Square_78]

If you are keeping your truck, then install the bags on shraders for now and then save up for the Accuair air management kit. Its the best out there and the eLevel cant be beat. Dont waste your time with individual valves. By the time you get all the valves and DOT fittings, you will be at the same price as a manifold. Easy push to connect and no leaks. Even if you dont want to spend too much money, get a 3 gal tank, one compressor and the accuair VU-4 manifold and wire it up to whatever switchbox you like.