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Longhorn Man · 07-08-2005, 08:26 PM

Ok....some of you have followed along the last 3 1/2 years since I got the one ton, and decided to do a caddy big block.
Many ppl supported me, some called me an idiot, and I actually got some hate e-mail on it. (no joke)

Well, even if you haven't been here since longhorn day one... most all of you know that the 425 I installed fragged the second day it was on the road. Very depressing.

Well....tonight, I am pickin up the replacement engine.
bigger...
better...
A caddy 500.

I'll be stayin up all night saturday at the shop workin on the engine, (

) cleaning it up, doin some of this, doin some of that, checkin the bearings....that kind of crap.
Then, in 2 weeks, I plan on doin the engine swap.

And....with any luck...I'll be rippin up the rear tires shortly after that.

71swb4x4 · 07-08-2005, 08:36 PM

Sounds like a tire shreader for sure. I am sure you learned a lot the first time around, so this time should be that much easier. Good Luck Andy!!

bagged91 · 07-08-2005, 08:40 PM

My dad always said to me, "Son, remember, there is NO replacement for displacement". I agree and I can't wait to see the pics of it doin a burnout by punchin' it on 20 MPH roll

Good Luck(or maybe I shouldn't say that?)

L8R - Joe

krue · 07-08-2005, 09:22 PM

Good luck with it Andy.

**stllookn** · 07-08-2005, 09:46 PM

DAM#...That sounds excitin'! Wish we could help, butI'm too far away and I know you like to fly solo on these deals. Best of luck and I am REALLY looking forward to seeing some pics!

**Palf70Step** · 07-08-2005, 09:55 PM

Goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Andy!!!

70 shorty · 07-08-2005, 09:59 PM

I've been keeping up with this "saga" since I registered on the board. I hope this one works out for you. 500 cubic inches ought to get it done real nice! Do you plan to leave it stock? I'm sure you're just after getting it running first then make a decision from there.

68cajun · 07-08-2005, 10:07 PM

Good luck! Can't wait to see the burn out pics myself!

**jamie72** · 07-08-2005, 10:11 PM

good luck andy!!! but why leave us in suspense for 2 weeks?? drop her in now!!

Longhorn Man · 07-08-2005, 10:52 PM

Well, I got it! It's in the trunk of the town car right now.

(I hope the coils hold up till tomorow)

I tried goin to the shop for better (non night time) pics, but with the good guys thing goin on this weekend, the boss man has the whole lot FULL of hot rods, and no one wanted me swingin a huge eng hoise around in there.
So here is sits, in the trunk, parked on the street...car sittin too low to pull in the drive.

I'm holding off on installing it so i can pull it apart and check it out real good. Next weekend, I'll have my son, so I can't spend all that time with my truck, so 2 weeks from now will be the soonest I'll have shop time and space.

Once the old engine gets pulled out, I'm going to drag the truck over to the radiator shop (in house....3 bays over) and use the steam cleaner to blast the front of the frame clean, then I'll be hitting it with POR and Chassis black as a top coat.

Here's some pics....I'll probably be loading up some more sunday morning when i get home.

look how low that sucker is sitting....would you belive it RIDES GOOD...and it'll still spin the right rear....granted, only for a foot or so, but it'll still spin.

Had a cop tail me all the way back from the shop to the house, as soon as I got out, he asks me what the h*ll is wrong with my car, I removed the bungie cord and he's like WOAH! WTF is that doing in there!?!?!

I think it makes sence...trunk...truck, sounds the same to me.

Alexis · 07-08-2005, 10:59 PM

Good luck amigo!

Keep us posted.

Longhorn Man · 07-08-2005, 11:05 PM

Oh, and as far as stock or not.... right now, fundage requires it to be stock. I have an edelbrock 750 and an hot coil on stock HEI...actually, it has an adjustable vec can on it too.
I plan to do a timing chain and oil pump before stabbin it, but that's well over 100 bucks right there. Later on, I plan an edelbrock intake...that is 250 clams right there.
One day, it may get a cam, but I'm pretty sure I'll be happy with it with just the intake, carb, hot HEI, and free flowin pipes (manifolds still). I know the 425 was enough to suprise the crap outa me....I can't wait to fire this monster up and hit the loud pedal.

68haywagon · 07-08-2005, 11:22 PM

and I was worried about hauling a small block in my van!!!

Good luck. I hope this one works out better for you. Make sure we get some burnout pics too

.

Mike

**fine69** · 07-08-2005, 11:23 PM

Same thing will happen to this motor if you dont change those rearend gears.

panhandler62 · 07-08-2005, 11:36 PM

I don't think I ever saw anyone haul a BB in a car trunk before. lol

Best of luck.. this shoudl be cool.

skokie · 07-09-2005, 12:34 AM

Wish you better luck on this one Andy. Keep the pics coming..

*Tanker350* · 07-09-2005, 12:52 AM

What is that motor out of? Make/year??

Longhorn Man · 07-09-2005, 12:59 AM

1976 Caddy Coupe DeVille 95k on the clock, complete engine minus carb and dist.

Cheesewagon · 07-09-2005, 02:43 AM

Hope all goes well this time Andy!! Wish I had the time I'd give you a hand installing that monster. Latter Tom.

68C15 · 07-09-2005, 07:39 AM

finish yours & then make a road trip to help me swing the 472 into mine.
TORQUE!!!!!! = COOL!!!!!!!!
oh, and the mileage sounds good to boot.

**Yukon Jack** · 07-09-2005, 08:26 AM

Now that is a great pic. Hope it goes smoothly for you this time!

71cadc10 · 07-09-2005, 10:13 AM

Good deal man, glad you found one.
I just rebuilt a 76 motor for mine, 514 now. I also converted over to the small chamber heads for 10.2 compression.

I have a bunch of misc. parts off that motor I didn't use, so if anything comes up you need give me a shout. The 552 casting heads off it are in really good shape too (big chamber) if yours have something wrong mine are cheap.
The original pistons/rods from that motor are in great condition too, I have no use for them.
If you need advice on where to buy new parts for yours give me a shout. I've pretty much bought stuff from all of them at one time or another.

lloyd k · 07-09-2005, 12:16 PM

good luck andy,glad you found another one too,from what i hear the 500 is a big difference over the 425.ive been working on the cosmetics of my truck past couple months. then im going back to the motor-valve job and new springs and intake.the valve train seems to be the weekest link other than the factory cam.if i had mine tore down i would think about new valve springs off the bat.it comes outa the hole like the worlds going to end but runs flat on top,thou your allready hitting a hundred-haha. i have had very good luck with mine ,ive put 16,000 miles on it since ive had it.these motors you could drive it with a spark plug wire off and you wouldnt know it. p.s. i love the picture of your towncar,i have woundered what my 83 delta 88 would look like with another motor in the trunk-haha

1STtimePRo'71 · 07-09-2005, 12:24 PM

What kinda ponies are we talkin here. I've heard that if that motor dont kill ya you're gonna need some new undies.

lloyd k · 07-09-2005, 01:08 PM

its mainly torque,probably around 500 ft lbs out of a 80,000 mile junkyard motor,theres some guys making serious horsepower on another board(cowboyseven.us)one guy is runing 10.50s in a fullbodied ,iron heads, all accessories 79 coupe deville and creme yellow at that-pretty cool,a guy runing mid 9s in a cad powered mustang.high performance parts are starting to be made for this motor from several vendors,aluminum heads ,solid cams,roller cams,rods-allot of neat stuff.the best way to put it is there is no subsitute for cubic inches

07-08-2005, 08:26 PM	#1
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	And the saga continues (longhorn update) ...with pics! Ok....some of you have followed along the last 3 1/2 years since I got the one ton, and decided to do a caddy big block. Many ppl supported me, some called me an idiot, and I actually got some hate e-mail on it. (no joke) Well, even if you haven't been here since longhorn day one... most all of you know that the 425 I installed fragged the second day it was on the road. Very depressing. Well....tonight, I am pickin up the replacement engine. bigger... better... A caddy 500. I'll be stayin up all night saturday at the shop workin on the engine, ( ) cleaning it up, doin some of this, doin some of that, checkin the bearings....that kind of crap. Then, in 2 weeks, I plan on doin the engine swap. And....with any luck...I'll be rippin up the rear tires shortly after that. Last edited by Longhorn Man; 07-08-2005 at 10:53 PM.

07-08-2005, 08:36 PM	#2
71swb4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Brookings, SD Posts: 10,497	Sounds like a tire shreader for sure. I am sure you learned a lot the first time around, so this time should be that much easier. Good Luck Andy!! __________________ Some people are like slinkies, they aren't good for anything, but you can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs.

07-08-2005, 08:40 PM	#3
bagged91 Out draggin' Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Pitman,NJ Posts: 1,574	My dad always said to me, "Son, remember, there is NO replacement for displacement". I agree and I can't wait to see the pics of it doin a burnout by punchin' it on 20 MPH roll Good Luck(or maybe I shouldn't say that?) L8R - Joe __________________ 91 GMC Xcab LB-Bags/bd/caddy clip SOLD 72 C10 Cheyenne Super LWB SOLD 92 GMC K1500 Burb 72 C10 Burb (ex. Cheesewagon)SOLD 72 C20 Burb parts truck 71 C10 Burb "project"

07-08-2005, 09:22 PM	#4
krue Designated A-hole! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Mississippi Posts: 36,450	Good luck with it Andy. __________________ "If it ain't broke, fix it 'til it is!" Being stupid ain't illegal. We're Still Debt Free Except for the House!!! www.daveramsey.com 70 GMC SWB Stepside project "Green Booger" soon to be 6.0l/4l80e 93 S-10 "Poppaw's Truck"

07-08-2005, 09:46 PM	#5
stllookn Saving 1 truck at a time! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kent, WA Posts: 6,463	DAM#...That sounds excitin'! Wish we could help, butI'm too far away and I know you like to fly solo on these deals. Best of luck and I am REALLY looking forward to seeing some pics! __________________ '68 C20 Longhorn 50th Anniversary 400/TH400 '68 C20 Longhorn 50th Anniversary 468/TH400w/buckets '72 C20 Halfhorn (Longhorn w/o cab and front clip) '69 Flxible Cruiser (look up ugly in the dictionary)

07-08-2005, 09:55 PM	#6
Palf70Step State of Confusion! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gulfport, MS USA Posts: 46,644	Goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Andy!!! __________________ Bill 1970 Chevy Custom/10 LWB Fleetside 2010 Toyota Tacoma PreRunner SR5 Double Cab - DD Member of Louisiana Classic Truck Club (LCTC) Bill's Gallery Life isn't tied with a bow, but it's still a gift. Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God!

07-08-2005, 09:59 PM	#7
70 shorty Where's my beer? Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Glen Allen, VA Posts: 1,768	I've been keeping up with this "saga" since I registered on the board. I hope this one works out for you. 500 cubic inches ought to get it done real nice! Do you plan to leave it stock? I'm sure you're just after getting it running first then make a decision from there. __________________ 70 C10, shortstep, .30 over 250,Hurst shifted 3 spd parts hauler. Holley 390, Clifford Intake, Header, ported cylinder head, unknown bigger cam. 79 Corvette L82, 4 spd, black, red interior, headers, flowmasters, and unkown bigger cam. '03 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.0 4x4 daily driver. 165K miles, and runs great '08 Tahoe LTZ 4x4 155K

07-08-2005, 10:07 PM	#8
68cajun 68 C/10 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Houma Louisiana Posts: 367	Good luck! Can't wait to see the burn out pics myself! __________________ (2009) GMC Sierra Denali 6.2 AWD (67 C/10 fleetside SWB) (2018GMC Yukon Denali) Wifes Car

07-08-2005, 10:11 PM	#9
jamie72 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: madison indiana Posts: 3,839	good luck andy!!! but why leave us in suspense for 2 weeks?? drop her in now!! __________________ jamie72 72 BB cheyenne -- Restoration getting started.. member #807 http://www.myspace.com/whitetailobsession www.antlertalk.com

07-08-2005, 10:52 PM	#10
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Well, I got it! It's in the trunk of the town car right now. (I hope the coils hold up till tomorow) I tried goin to the shop for better (non night time) pics, but with the good guys thing goin on this weekend, the boss man has the whole lot FULL of hot rods, and no one wanted me swingin a huge eng hoise around in there. So here is sits, in the trunk, parked on the street...car sittin too low to pull in the drive. I'm holding off on installing it so i can pull it apart and check it out real good. Next weekend, I'll have my son, so I can't spend all that time with my truck, so 2 weeks from now will be the soonest I'll have shop time and space. Once the old engine gets pulled out, I'm going to drag the truck over to the radiator shop (in house....3 bays over) and use the steam cleaner to blast the front of the frame clean, then I'll be hitting it with POR and Chassis black as a top coat. Here's some pics....I'll probably be loading up some more sunday morning when i get home. look how low that sucker is sitting....would you belive it RIDES GOOD...and it'll still spin the right rear....granted, only for a foot or so, but it'll still spin. Had a cop tail me all the way back from the shop to the house, as soon as I got out, he asks me what the h*ll is wrong with my car, I removed the bungie cord and he's like WOAH! WTF is that doing in there!?!?! I think it makes sence...trunk...truck, sounds the same to me. Attached Images

07-08-2005, 10:59 PM	#11
Alexis Member since 2000 Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Mountain View Ca / Mexico Posts: 7,879	Good luck amigo! Keep us posted. Last edited by Alexis; 07-08-2005 at 11:00 PM.

07-08-2005, 11:05 PM	#12
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Oh, and as far as stock or not.... right now, fundage requires it to be stock. I have an edelbrock 750 and an hot coil on stock HEI...actually, it has an adjustable vec can on it too. I plan to do a timing chain and oil pump before stabbin it, but that's well over 100 bucks right there. Later on, I plan an edelbrock intake...that is 250 clams right there. One day, it may get a cam, but I'm pretty sure I'll be happy with it with just the intake, carb, hot HEI, and free flowin pipes (manifolds still). I know the 425 was enough to suprise the crap outa me....I can't wait to fire this monster up and hit the loud pedal.

07-08-2005, 11:22 PM	#13
68haywagon I'm watching you! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Levittown, PA Posts: 1,822	and I was worried about hauling a small block in my van!!! Good luck. I hope this one works out better for you. Make sure we get some burnout pics too . Mike __________________ 2012 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 Z71 4WD 1993 Chevrolet C-1500 W/T - Blue - 4.3L V-6, 4 speed auto - Dad's (RIP) 1992 Chevrolet S10 - LS swap project 1968 Chevrolet C-10 longbed fleetside - sold

07-08-2005, 11:23 PM	#14
fine69 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Urbana,Ohio,USA Posts: 4,618	Same thing will happen to this motor if you dont change those rearend gears. __________________ 2008 Chevy HHR 1/2 panel. 1949 Chevy Panel truck(just sittin, waiting) Board member #6

07-08-2005, 11:36 PM	#15
panhandler62 Java Mechanic Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Martinsburg, WV Posts: 6,764	I don't think I ever saw anyone haul a BB in a car trunk before. lol Best of luck.. this shoudl be cool.



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07-09-2005, 12:34 AM	#16
skokie Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: San Jose Ca. Posts: 3,300	Wish you better luck on this one Andy. Keep the pics coming.. __________________ RIP to my son Dylan. 5/17/2002 - 8/18/2018 If you want to know more about rare forms of pediatric cancer or if you want to help fund pediatric cancer research, please check out the website for the non-profit I started. https://slothforpedcancer.org 68 build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=223234

07-09-2005, 12:52 AM	#17
Tanker350 Account Suspended Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Palm Desert, Ca Posts: 410	What is that motor out of? Make/year??

07-09-2005, 12:59 AM	#18
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	1976 Caddy Coupe DeVille 95k on the clock, complete engine minus carb and dist.

07-09-2005, 02:43 AM	#19
Cheesewagon Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Perrysburg, Ohio, USA Posts: 409	Hope all goes well this time Andy!! Wish I had the time I'd give you a hand installing that monster. Latter Tom. __________________ '91 suburban 350 TBI - R 700 4 new daily driver '72 Cheyenne Super 49,000miles 350/350 frame up resto w/ matching numbers.

07-09-2005, 07:39 AM	#20
68C15 blood type; Retumbo Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: next to my reloading bench Posts: 10,269	finish yours & then make a road trip to help me swing the 472 into mine. TORQUE!!!!!! = COOL!!!!!!!! oh, and the mileage sounds good to boot. __________________ Man rule #77...if you own a 67 stepside with a caddy 472 you will never be in danger of loosing you man card

07-09-2005, 08:26 AM	#21
Yukon Jack Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Rose Hill, KS, USA Posts: 12,683	Now that is a great pic. Hope it goes smoothly for you this time! __________________ 1970 Blazer with a 400 sbc and 4" lift 1980 Pontiac Trans Am, 455 Oldsmobile 2012 Kawasaki Concours 14

07-09-2005, 10:13 AM	#22
71cadc10 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Boiling Springs, PA Posts: 435	Good deal man, glad you found one. I just rebuilt a 76 motor for mine, 514 now. I also converted over to the small chamber heads for 10.2 compression. I have a bunch of misc. parts off that motor I didn't use, so if anything comes up you need give me a shout. The 552 casting heads off it are in really good shape too (big chamber) if yours have something wrong mine are cheap. The original pistons/rods from that motor are in great condition too, I have no use for them. If you need advice on where to buy new parts for yours give me a shout. I've pretty much bought stuff from all of them at one time or another. __________________ 71 C10 long bed, 2003 6.0L, 06GTO E40, T56, 12bolt 4.10 rear

07-09-2005, 12:16 PM	#23
lloyd k Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: columbus,ohio Posts: 201	good luck andy,glad you found another one too,from what i hear the 500 is a big difference over the 425.ive been working on the cosmetics of my truck past couple months. then im going back to the motor-valve job and new springs and intake.the valve train seems to be the weekest link other than the factory cam.if i had mine tore down i would think about new valve springs off the bat.it comes outa the hole like the worlds going to end but runs flat on top,thou your allready hitting a hundred-haha. i have had very good luck with mine ,ive put 16,000 miles on it since ive had it.these motors you could drive it with a spark plug wire off and you wouldnt know it. p.s. i love the picture of your towncar,i have woundered what my 83 delta 88 would look like with another motor in the trunk-haha __________________ 67 swb gmc,big block cadillac powered,400 turbo,2.73 ratio and disc brakes-basically a frankenstein of many parts-

07-09-2005, 12:24 PM	#24
1STtimePRo'71 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Lake Crystal, MN Posts: 656	What kinda ponies are we talkin here. I've heard that if that motor dont kill ya you're gonna need some new undies. __________________ -Cory 1967 2 Wheel Chevy

07-09-2005, 01:08 PM	#25
lloyd k Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: columbus,ohio Posts: 201	its mainly torque,probably around 500 ft lbs out of a 80,000 mile junkyard motor,theres some guys making serious horsepower on another board(cowboyseven.us)one guy is runing 10.50s in a fullbodied ,iron heads, all accessories 79 coupe deville and creme yellow at that-pretty cool,a guy runing mid 9s in a cad powered mustang.high performance parts are starting to be made for this motor from several vendors,aluminum heads ,solid cams,roller cams,rods-allot of neat stuff.the best way to put it is there is no subsitute for cubic inches __________________ 67 swb gmc,big block cadillac powered,400 turbo,2.73 ratio and disc brakes-basically a frankenstein of many parts-

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