Is this right? Power steering pump question

[AZ59apacheguy]

So I am gearing up to install power steering on my '59. When I spoke to CPP about their kit, they suggested getting GM '68-'78 car or truck power steering pump. So I went on to Rockauto and ordered a 20-6084F which seemed to be the most common pump for a Chevy small block. I got it today and this is what they sent me.


This next pic shows the picture in the items description


The one they sent me has a MUCH smaller fill reservoir than the other. Has anyone seen a pump like this. Just what in the heck did they send me??

[68gmsee]

They probably grabbed it out of the wrong spot. Could be a Ford product?
Never seen that type on older GMs.

[Captainfab]

I've never seen a pump like that on a GM product. Maybe the 'F' suffix means it is for a Ford....they did use saginaw pumps for many years.

[AZ59apacheguy]

Thanks for the replies. In the description on Rockauto, the " F " stands for filtration. It is starting to appear that they sent the wrong pump. And I don't want a Ford pump on my Chevy

[68gmsee]

fyi: I bought one for my 68 GMC from local Autozone last year and so far it's been a good one. The reason I bought one locally is that I didn't want the hassle of having to ship it out if it was defective or not the one I wanted.

These are two basic designs that I have used as replacements. On a lot of these pumps the internal pump asm is the same but the canister is different.

[AZ59apacheguy]

So I got a call from both Cardone and Rockauto. According to them, this is the correct power steering pump for a 72' Chevy C10, which is what I ordered. They went on to say, it will function and hold as much fluid as the other ones. To me, it looks more " old school " when comparing it to the others, which I'm fine with. I was more concerned about fit and function and if they sent me a Ford, Dodge...... or other branded pump. If I match up the mounting holes it will fit and the return line is pointing the way I want. It also comes with a 3-year Warranty. I just wish Rockauto would either, change the picture to reflect what your actually getting, or not put a picture at all.......

[68gmsee]

Originally Posted by AZ59apacheguy

So I got a call from both Cardone and Rockauto. According to them, this is the correct power steering pump for a 72' Chevy C10, which is what I ordered.........

I've never seen that type in our trucks and I've looked at a lot of 67-72 chevies and GMC's. Maybe others can chime in. It could be they're referring to the internal pump being the same as I mentioned above.

[Procurement_man]

That's the same one I was sold as well, I'm still trying to figure out a bracket to mount it. So I would love to see how it works out.

[cadillac_al]

I think it may be correct for early 70's GM. I'm pretty sure my '70 Impala has that style of pump.

[AZ59apacheguy]

Originally Posted by Procurement_man

That's the same one I was sold as well, I'm still trying to figure out a bracket to mount it. So I would love to see how it works out.

Thanks for the replies. Well that's comforting news. I have a 283 and I am using the stock front motor mounts. Do you have a V8 or L6? If V8, are you using the stock front or side motor mounts? I bought a bracket from CPP that replaces the drivers side upper mount. It incorporates an upper engine mount and power steering pump bracket. Like this:

[AZ59apacheguy]

So, what would be the correct cap for this pump. I did a search for early 70's Impala and I saw a few different styles. Some had long dipstick and others had short.

[AZ59apacheguy]

Originally Posted by AZ59apacheguy

So, what would be the correct cap for this pump. I did a search for early 70's Impala and I saw a few different styles. Some had long dipstick and others had short.

Anyone??

[Procurement_man]

I plan on using the short one. that bracket you posted is it for long or short water pump?

[AZ59apacheguy]

Originally Posted by Procurement_man

I plan on using the short one. that bracket you posted is it for long or short water pump?

Thanks for the reply. Ummmmm, I hope it's for the short water pump, that's what I have now. This type bracket is for early Chevy V8's, and correct me if I'm wrong, but long water pumps were on later V8's???

[cadillac_al]

Sorry I can't help more. My poor Impala is buried and surrounded by junk and I just lost my camera while snowmobiling. The 70 Impala has had many many swaps over the years. I'm pretty sure I'm running a long water pump with the old funky power steering pump. I rob all my parts off of 70's Chevy trucks. I wonder if you can google '70 power steering pumps and get some pics of how they are mounted.

[Ironangel]

I'm no long time Chevy guy but have two 72 C-10,s with factory 350's in them...I've replaced one pump and have a used back-up pump I picked from one of the board members...None of them look like the pump the OP posted...Now this is how I feel...On looks alone, if it dont look like the one that came off, send it back! Rock auto, or Rock of Ages, that thing aint right! Send it back! They should honor that and if they dont then let us know...Another thing...That mount shown dont look quite right to me...Mine are three piece mounts that go together like a puzzle, they intertwine with each other with a brace that goes back to the motor mount...In one pic you can see where I used a 3/8-16 socket head cap screw in the mount because the hex head was so hard to tighten in that proximity...Send it back and be done with it is my final answer...

[AZ59apacheguy]

Hi. Thanks for the replies. Ironangle, it looks like your using side motor mounts. The power steering pump bracket I bought was because I'm using the stock front motor mounts. It incorporates both the motor mount and power steering bracket in one. As far as the pump itself, I'm sure they will take it back. As long as it works, I'm cool with the looks of it, it also comes with a nice three year warranty.

[61K10]

mount is for a short pump

[robs71k5]

This is the pump I removed from a c10 I parted out .it look simular to the one you have .I was also told the pump brackets were in corvettes. Might have come with 327 or 283 That might help your search

[dujobu]

I'm having trouble finding the correct replacement pump for my '71 Blazer. The one in the bottom photo here is the style I pulled out, and the one on the top is the one I keep getting when I order a replacement (I'm on my third try and I keep getting the wrong reservoir style despite what the photos show from where I'm buying them). The problem is that style reservoir and the angle of the hose connection on the back interfere with my bracket. Can anyone offer and suggestions on how to straighten this mess out?

Originally Posted by 68gmsee

fyi: I bought one for my 68 GMC from local Autozone last year and so far it's been a good one. The reason I bought one locally is that I didn't want the hassle of having to ship it out if it was defective or not the one I wanted.

These are two basic designs that I have used as replacements. On a lot of these pumps the internal pump asm is the same but the canister is different.

[Captainfab]

I would either buy just the pump without the reservior or R&R the one from the pump that has the wrong reservior.

[D.PASSMORE]

Wow! I'm in the same boat, I ordered the recommended AC/DELCO part number ACD# 36P1410 / GM #19319936. The one I received was the square reservoir type, not the round long neck type that was pictured. The square type will not fit in the OE 72 truck brackets. So, I'm headed to NAPA to see if I can match one up. Or, has any body figured out the correct part number for the exact replacement?

[GSP7]

My '69 CST 396 had a separate reservoir with a connecting hose

[storm9c1]

Originally Posted by GSP7

My '69 CST 396 had a separate reservoir with a connecting hose

Yes, I've seen this on 396 trucks only. I guess it could be retrofitted to a SBC, but not sure. The remote reservoir is convenient. This is a keyed shaft (which is also correct for '69).

NAPA PN "NSP 816747" comes up as the divorced pump. The title says "w/ reservoir" but the picture does not show the reservoir. So I'd be leery if you need a reservoir. Also the core charge is a killer for this particular pump.

It's also available on Rock Auto, no reservoir, and a huge core charge there as well. Same with Autozone.

What I can't help with is those who are having trouble finding the one with the oval filler neck. Seems those are drying up in the reman market, which is crazy because that's the only style you could get for years and years. I had the opposite problem with a Mopar. I wanted the round filler neck and kept getting the oval one. LOL. I ended up finding a NOS reservoir on eBay and buying just the pump and seal kit and assembling them myself. FWIW, I think the round neck looks better on older vehicles.