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Riveted1 · 07-22-2008, 04:17 PM

So I had purchased some of the Dynomax Chevelle shorty headers a few years ago at the recommendation of some on this board. My truck is bagged, and I don't want the exhaust hanging below the frame. Well, I went to bolt up the headers and they hit on the PS motor mount and frame. After some more reading I realized that people w/the '67/'68 trucks have this issue. I know of one person that is running shorty headers on his '67, but he hasn't been on the board in a bit. So my question is, what shorty headers are you guys w/a '67 or '68 truck using? Oh ya, it's a V8....

70rs/ss · 07-22-2008, 05:20 PM

SBC or BBC? I know on the 67-8's the frame needs trimmed on the top rail to clear the headers. If it is a BBC you need the correct 67-71 mounts to get everything in there, if it is a SBC I am curious? Picts?

fastom · 07-22-2008, 06:54 PM

I'm running Sanderson headers in my 68 with a small block. No issues at all, very nice header. Early Classic sells a Sanderson set, coated, and a bit cheaper than you can buy them from Sanderson.

www.earlyclassic.com

Riveted1 · 07-22-2008, 09:35 PM

It's a SBC. Don't have pics cuz I've already boxed the headers back up.

Thx for the heads up Fastom. Since those are mid-length headers, do you have any pics of how low they hang?

dakman · 07-23-2008, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Riveted1

It's a SBC. Don't have pics cuz I've already boxed the headers back up.

looking to sell??

70rs/ss · 07-22-2008, 06:57 PM

They clear the top rail, cool? I have had to trim the rail on every one of my 67-8 with headers as it seems most headers are made to fit the 69-72 but are listed as 67-72. Any picts? BTW are they shorties or full length?

yotaforce · 07-22-2008, 09:58 PM

I seriously got tired of trying headers for mine and ended up with old corvette rams horn manifolds and where the exhaust tube drops out, I took it immediately to the outside of the frame rails and down the outside into the mufflers just behind the cab and dumped down before the axle. Now my exhaust cannot be seen from the side and no where does it hang below the cab or frame, allowing me to go lower.

fastom · 07-22-2008, 10:40 PM

Pictures!! Here it is.

Arad68 · 07-22-2008, 11:56 PM

Fastom,
Any spark plug issues? Can You run a standard length plug or do yuo have to use a shorty?

fastom · 07-23-2008, 12:19 AM

Not a single issue! Standard plugs.

Don't make the mistake I made with these headers, don't use gaskets. I had to take them back off and use only black RTV.

Riveted1 · 07-23-2008, 12:29 AM

You don't happen to have a pic of the other side do ya? Looks like you were using copper gaskets, I'm surprised they didn't work. Edit: Just read they have a "leak free" flange. Interesting... Oh and the pic on ECE's website is different from your headers. I wonder which is the "new" style?

BTW, nice job on that engine, looks great!

70GMCer · 07-23-2008, 08:32 AM

Now that's the way a set of headers should fit & look. Why don't the other big name companies out there do the same??

*Shane* · 07-23-2008, 10:06 AM

Dynomax 3/4 length Chevelle/Malibu headers on mine ... no issues at all, bolted right up and don't hit anywhere.

70GMCer · 07-23-2008, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Shane

Dynomax 3/4 length Chevelle/Malibu headers on mine ... no issues at all, bolted right up and don't hit anywhere.

thanks Shane....i'll look into those. Looking to change out my Hedmans.....Would those be for 64/72 Chevelle??

c10crazy · 07-23-2008, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Shane

Dynomax 3/4 length Chevelle/Malibu headers on mine ... no issues at all, bolted right up and don't hit anywhere.

These have 1.5" primaries, correct?

Riveted1 · 07-23-2008, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Shane

Dynomax 3/4 length Chevelle/Malibu headers on mine ... no issues at all, bolted right up and don't hit anywhere.

These are the ones I have atm. Dynomax 86118: Cerama-Coat Shorty Headers for Cars with 283-400ci,Camaro, Z/28 1967-69, Chevelle/El Camino 1964-88

SierraMtns · 07-07-2015, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Riveted1

These are the ones I have atm. Dynomax 86118: Cerama-Coat Shorty Headers for Cars with 283-400ci,Camaro, Z/28 1967-69, Chevelle/El Camino 1964-88

Do you have any pics with the headers on the motor? Where do you have your motor mounted?

68_chop_top · 07-23-2008, 12:29 PM

I run Flowtech headers I bought from Summit Racing. Flowtech 31500FLT These are ceramic coated, full length, 1 5/8 with 3 inch collectors, and I did NOT have to cut the top rail on either side. It evens fits where my Z bar goes across. I use standard plugs but I had to modify a 5/8 socket to fit #7 plug.

c10crazy · 07-23-2008, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 68_chop_top

I run Flowtech headers I bought from Summit Racing. Flowtech 31500FLT These are ceramic coated, full length, 1 5/8 with 3 inch collectors, and I did NOT have to cut the top rail on either side. It evens fits where my Z bar goes across. I use standard plugs but I had to modify a 5/8 socket to fit #7 plug.

I called Summit and they told me these have the 1.5" primaries like the shorty Chevelle headers that Riveted1 has. That's probably why these are fitting so well. It looks like the only shorty header with the bigger 1 5/8" tubes that will fit with no mods is the Sandersons by ECE. I need headers bad!

Arad68 · 07-24-2008, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 68_chop_top

I run Flowtech headers I bought from Summit Racing. Flowtech 31500FLT These are ceramic coated, full length, 1 5/8 with 3 inch collectors, and I did NOT have to cut the top rail on either side. It evens fits where my Z bar goes across. I use standard plugs but I had to modify a 5/8 socket to fit #7 plug.

I have these same headers and they fit well except for the spark plugs. A standard plug puts the spark plug boot very close to the tubes on #7 and a few of the others. Mine only have 1 1/2 " primary tubes. I have expensive wires and don't want them burned. (Moroso Ultra 40). I have the coldest shorty Accel plugs I can get and have to go colder still. Unfortunately, this means a standard length plug.
I am looking for a set of new headers that will allow standard plugs w/out burning my wires and wont break the bank so to say. I am not opposed to trimming my frame rails and my truck isn't lowered, but I want a "tucked" exhaust system too. I'll probably go with the Sandersons and stimulate the economy as well.

*Shane* · 07-23-2008, 03:13 PM

Those are the same ones Riveted1 that I'm using ...

Riveted1 · 07-23-2008, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Shane

Those are the same ones Riveted1 that I'm using ...

I wonder why mine hit then? Maybe I'm just an idiot and am not sliding em in just right. Guess I'll go try again tonight.

red69ss · 07-23-2008, 08:51 PM

heres mine summit block huggers ceramic coated ($200) they fit great with no problems

Riveted1 · 07-23-2008, 11:07 PM

Those block huggers look nice and the price is even better!

I went out there again and tried to get those things to fit. There's no way. They hit on the motor mount and the frame. Even had a buddy look at it to get a second opinion. Took some pictures, but b/c the frame is black, you can't really see what's happening. Oh well, guess it's time to buck up and stimulate the economy!

VA72C10 · 07-23-2008, 11:00 PM

A lot of great information on here...and some beautiful engine bays

07-22-2008, 04:17 PM	#1
Riveted1 Tasty Cakes! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 2,112	Shorty headers So I had purchased some of the Dynomax Chevelle shorty headers a few years ago at the recommendation of some on this board. My truck is bagged, and I don't want the exhaust hanging below the frame. Well, I went to bolt up the headers and they hit on the PS motor mount and frame. After some more reading I realized that people w/the '67/'68 trucks have this issue. I know of one person that is running shorty headers on his '67, but he hasn't been on the board in a bit. So my question is, what shorty headers are you guys w/a '67 or '68 truck using? Oh ya, it's a V8.... __________________ I'm a little and a lot Ground beef: A cow with no legs. ---------------- '66 Chevy SWB "Penny" '67 Chevy Big Window SWB- aka "Pearl" '72 Burb- "Betty" "It's not a hearse dammit" '99 Chevy Ext. cab Silverado

07-22-2008, 05:20 PM	#2
70rs/ss Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Northern AZ Posts: 7,271	Re: Shorty headers SBC or BBC? I know on the 67-8's the frame needs trimmed on the top rail to clear the headers. If it is a BBC you need the correct 67-71 mounts to get everything in there, if it is a SBC I am curious? Picts?

07-22-2008, 06:54 PM	#3
fastom That's right, it's Copper!! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bakersfield, Central California Posts: 558	Re: Shorty headers I'm running Sanderson headers in my 68 with a small block. No issues at all, very nice header. Early Classic sells a Sanderson set, coated, and a bit cheaper than you can buy them from Sanderson. www.earlyclassic.com Last edited by fastom; 07-22-2008 at 06:58 PM.

07-22-2008, 09:35 PM	#4
Riveted1 Tasty Cakes! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 2,112	Re: Shorty headers It's a SBC. Don't have pics cuz I've already boxed the headers back up. Thx for the heads up Fastom. Since those are mid-length headers, do you have any pics of how low they hang? __________________ I'm a little and a lot Ground beef: A cow with no legs. ---------------- '66 Chevy SWB "Penny" '67 Chevy Big Window SWB- aka "Pearl" '72 Burb- "Betty" "It's not a hearse dammit" '99 Chevy Ext. cab Silverado

07-22-2008, 06:57 PM	#6
70rs/ss Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Northern AZ Posts: 7,271	Re: Shorty headers They clear the top rail, cool? I have had to trim the rail on every one of my 67-8 with headers as it seems most headers are made to fit the 69-72 but are listed as 67-72. Any picts? BTW are they shorties or full length? Last edited by 70rs/ss; 07-22-2008 at 06:58 PM.

07-22-2008, 09:58 PM	#7
yotaforce Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Rutherfordton, NC Posts: 89	Re: Shorty headers I seriously got tired of trying headers for mine and ended up with old corvette rams horn manifolds and where the exhaust tube drops out, I took it immediately to the outside of the frame rails and down the outside into the mufflers just behind the cab and dumped down before the axle. Now my exhaust cannot be seen from the side and no where does it hang below the cab or frame, allowing me to go lower.

07-22-2008, 10:40 PM	#8
fastom That's right, it's Copper!! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bakersfield, Central California Posts: 558	Re: Shorty headers Pictures!! Here it is. Attached Images

07-22-2008, 11:56 PM	#9
Arad68 Trucks N Tranzams Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: North Las Vegas, Nevada Posts: 816	Re: Shorty headers Fastom, Any spark plug issues? Can You run a standard length plug or do yuo have to use a shorty? __________________ Don '68 Chevy LB 383 TH400/GV/373 posi '56 Chevy 4WD SWB '64 Chevy short stepside '79 Trans Am 455/TH2004R/12blt/4whldisc 95 Kia (Wifes car) 2002 S-10 extended cab pickup "God punishes small sins immediately"

07-23-2008, 12:19 AM	#10
fastom That's right, it's Copper!! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bakersfield, Central California Posts: 558	Re: Shorty headers Not a single issue! Standard plugs. Don't make the mistake I made with these headers, don't use gaskets. I had to take them back off and use only black RTV. Last edited by fastom; 07-23-2008 at 12:21 AM.

07-23-2008, 12:29 AM	#11
Riveted1 Tasty Cakes! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 2,112	Re: Shorty headers You don't happen to have a pic of the other side do ya? Looks like you were using copper gaskets, I'm surprised they didn't work. Edit: Just read they have a "leak free" flange. Interesting... Oh and the pic on ECE's website is different from your headers. I wonder which is the "new" style? BTW, nice job on that engine, looks great! Attached Images __________________ I'm a little and a lot Ground beef: A cow with no legs. ---------------- '66 Chevy SWB "Penny" '67 Chevy Big Window SWB- aka "Pearl" '72 Burb- "Betty" "It's not a hearse dammit" '99 Chevy Ext. cab Silverado Last edited by Riveted1; 07-23-2008 at 12:48 AM.

07-23-2008, 08:32 AM	#12
70GMCer Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Joppa, Maryland Posts: 4,408	Re: Shorty headers Now that's the way a set of headers should fit & look. Why don't the other big name companies out there do the same?? __________________ 1997 GMC Sierra Ext 1965 Mustang

07-23-2008, 10:06 AM	#13
Shane Account Suspended Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: over yonder Posts: 14,270	Re: Shorty headers Dynomax 3/4 length Chevelle/Malibu headers on mine ... no issues at all, bolted right up and don't hit anywhere.

07-23-2008, 12:29 PM	#18
68_chop_top Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Granbury, TEXAS Posts: 250	Re: Shorty headers I run Flowtech headers I bought from Summit Racing. Flowtech 31500FLT These are ceramic coated, full length, 1 5/8 with 3 inch collectors, and I did NOT have to cut the top rail on either side. It evens fits where my Z bar goes across. I use standard plugs but I had to modify a 5/8 socket to fit #7 plug. __________________ Mine is chopped, has a clutch, and a big block.

07-23-2008, 03:13 PM	#21
Shane Account Suspended Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: over yonder Posts: 14,270	Re: Shorty headers Those are the same ones Riveted1 that I'm using ...

07-23-2008, 08:51 PM	#23
red69ss Burnouts are therapeutic Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: lancaster, south carolina Posts: 851	Re: Shorty headers heres mine summit block huggers ceramic coated ($200) they fit great with no problems Attached Images __________________ 1969 CHEVELLE SS 1972 C10 ALMOST DAILY DRIVER 1968 C10 RUSTBUCKET (MISSION IMPOSSIBLE) 1972 PONTIAC LEMANS CONVERTIBLE (WIFE'S CAR) "My wife and I were happy for twenty years. Then we met." - Rodney Dangerfield "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Einstein



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07-23-2008, 11:07 PM	#24
Riveted1 Tasty Cakes! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 2,112	Re: Shorty headers Those block huggers look nice and the price is even better! I went out there again and tried to get those things to fit. There's no way. They hit on the motor mount and the frame. Even had a buddy look at it to get a second opinion. Took some pictures, but b/c the frame is black, you can't really see what's happening. Oh well, guess it's time to buck up and stimulate the economy! __________________ I'm a little and a lot Ground beef: A cow with no legs. ---------------- '66 Chevy SWB "Penny" '67 Chevy Big Window SWB- aka "Pearl" '72 Burb- "Betty" "It's not a hearse dammit" '99 Chevy Ext. cab Silverado

07-23-2008, 11:00 PM	#25
VA72C10 VA72C10 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Midlothian, VA Posts: 25,269	Re: Shorty headers A lot of great information on here...and some beautiful engine bays

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