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Old 12-07-2020, 11:23 AM   #1
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Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed

I will say this, this bedliner stuff is STICKY before it is dry, then when it is dry, it does not like to come off!! Great stuff..
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Old 12-07-2020, 02:51 PM   #2
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I did the whole epoxy and top coat from KBS coatings. I like the looks of yours better.
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I did the whole epoxy and top coat from KBS coatings. I like the looks of yours better.
This is the second time i have used custom coat on the bottom of a cab and so far i really like the stuff. It is thick, sticky until dry, but so easy to apply. Priced just right too.
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I will use this same stuff on the inside of the fenders also, but they will be primed just in case.

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Ok, gentlemen, i need some suggestions on what length of steering wheel column to get?! What is stock or near that? I am a bigger guy, so i want the steering wheel moved closer to dash.... for "Clearance" besides being a tilt.
Suggestions? 28", 30", 32"?
I would assume 28 and then just extend the Double D as long as needed.
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Ok, gentlemen, i need some suggestions on what length of steering wheel column to get?! What is stock or near that? I am a bigger guy, so i want the steering wheel moved closer to dash.... for "Clearance" besides being a tilt.
Suggestions? 28", 30", 32"?
I would assume 28 and then just extend the Double D as long as needed.
I've got my factory column removed and I can take some measurements when I get home if that would help? As far as any suggestions I got nothing sorry lol!
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Ok, gentlemen, i need some suggestions on what length of steering wheel column to get?! What is stock or near that? I am a bigger guy, so i want the steering wheel moved closer to dash.... for "Clearance" besides being a tilt.
Suggestions? 28", 30", 32"?
I would assume 28 and then just extend the Double D as long as needed.
This would definitely work if it's a simple straight shot to the steering box. Since you have R&P steering, verify that things will clear if you take that approach. You should be able to put a U-joint @ the rack & use a piece of tubing/wooden rod as your shaft. You need to keep working angles @ 30° or less.
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This would definitely work if it's a simple straight shot to the steering box. Since you have R&P steering, verify that things will clear if you take that approach. You should be able to put a U-joint @ the rack & use a piece of tubing/wooden rod as your shaft. You need to keep working angles @ 30° or less.
Perfect. Thank you sir. They sent 2 u-joints and dbl d shaft with it. I went with Stock Column or 3/4 DD on the R&P. Nice thing is that they sell 3/4" to 1" u-joints if needed. The more i was looking into it, typical is 30" with the rack... but i will see about measuring just to make sure.
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TMI Classic Low back Buckets are here!! Damn, they are nice! Comfy and not tall! Here are some pics with measurements.
Note: I am not a small guy by any means (currently over 300lbs.. currently..) and this seat is perfect for me! I am working on getting smaller but i will always be just a bigger guy, so the seat width and depth i was nervous about, but it is great.
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I have an Ididit built for the 64 took measurements here - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...&postcount=278
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Damn those look nice!! If my truck didn't come with a freshly rebuilt/wrapped seat I would seriously be looking into those!
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Damn those look nice!! If my truck didn't come with a freshly rebuilt/wrapped seat I would seriously be looking into those!
I like them but would not run them solely for this reason.....
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It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar.....

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Old 12-08-2020, 05:45 PM   #14
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I like them but would not run them solely for this reason.....
Cost reason or ?????
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Cost reason or ?????
Personal preference. The LOGO is a NOGO for me. I'm not paying to be your advertising billboard.
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Personal preference. The LOGO is a NOGO for me. I'm not paying to be your advertising billboard.
I am with you Scoti on this. Mu issue is i have spend way to much (more than i did on these) on my last build to get a good set of seats that fit me (again, not a small guy), seats were comfy and then seats that would fit in the trucks small area. This is damn hard! I tried old seats, i tried new used, i tried cheaper new seats.... all ended in nothing. I even have tried Corbeau which up to this point i loved, but they too even in "wide" were not real comfy and then the choices you get to choose from suckith, so..... Oh yea, i checked on having some built.... lol. ya that is not going to happen on my budget. BUT i was told, if i had a set of seats that all they needed to do was change out a part of the material for a different color or pattern, not to bad. So... that may happen here with these... not sure yet, but overall i agree with you in principal, but sometimes you just get limited or reduced to giving in, which honestly is where i am.
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Personal preference. The LOGO is a NOGO for me. I'm not paying to be your advertising billboard.
Not to pile one, but it is the size of the logo that bugs me. Their logo should not be the first thing that catches your eye when looking at a trucks interior. It works as I have seen a lot of these seats in trucks at shows and notice their oversized logo immediately..

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Love watching your build....Great job!
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Love watching your build....Great job!
Thank you sir. I went through your entire build again, great job! i did post that if you are not going to use the side sails that i am interested in buying them from you if you want to sell. Just a side note.
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I agree with SCOTI to a point, the giant logo is really annoying and there should be an option to not have it but those seats are super comfy so it’s a pick your battles kinda deal. Great build so far, can’t wait to see it finished.
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I agree with SCOTI to a point, the giant logo is really annoying and there should be an option to not have it but those seats are super comfy so it’s a pick your battles kinda deal. Great build so far, can’t wait to see it finished.
Thank you. It is a long process but i like the "busyness" of it. i have to be tinkering on something..... so this is it for now.... lol but this "tinkering" can get expensive... lol
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I want to say something here that is in no way directed at anyone who has previously responded to my build. In fact, to all of you, THANK YOU!! I appreciate all your comments and thoughts. The best part of all the comments is that they are all constructive and not mean or in evil spirit and I really appreciate all that! I honestly do, i even appreciate comments that maybe i do not agree with or like as long as they are done in a constructive manner. i have always said i learn so much more from my mistakes and failures. So I can appreciate others opinions and thoughts even if i differ in what i like to do. Just so there is no misunderstanding, this is not in response to the TMI seats thing, but rather to what i am about to talk about.

So i need seats installed in the cab so that i can figure out if i can do my next idea, which is to install a partial Rollcage in the cab that will exit the rear of the cab and mount in the bed. Now the idea here is to actually mount it to the frame, under the cab and under the bed, BUT make it removable. They make these couplers that are meant for Rollcages that i will use. I want to put a loop behind the seats with a crossbar to mount the seatbelt harness should straps to, then exit the cab and go to the bed and to the frame. This is my idea, not sure it will work, but it is my idea.

So this is why i made the earlier statement. Some will not like the idea at all, not even in the slightest. Kinda like cutting a longbed into a shortbed, same people. I understand that my ideas are not everyones bag of tea, but to me, they are my ideas. I fully respect anyones ideology and thoughts and even invite constructive comments done in constructive way, i always appreciate them. BUT if you have nothing nice or constructive to say about this or anyones ideas, regardless of what it is, just keep it to yourself. I have had many responses to my build, and to date i appreciate everyone one of them, not matter what. But i know that i mentioned this idea when i was doing my 1969 C10 along with cutting it from a longbed to shortbed and i got bashed, bad. To be honest, not all were negative though, some where just saying what they thought and did so in a constructive way, and i really appreciated that, but damn, some where just wrong. So please just be constructive, and not just to me, but to all.

Sorry for the long post here, i just know that this idea of the rollcage can bring out the not so nice posters... and i just want to say my peace. Please forgive me if i upset anyone, that is not my intention, only to try to help some look at how they respond to others.

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I want to say something here that is in no way directed at anyone who has previously responded to my build. In fact, to all of you, THANK YOU!! I appreciate all your comments and thoughts. The best part of all the comments is that they are all constructive and not mean or in evil spirit and I really appreciate all that! I honestly do, i even appreciate comments that maybe i do not agree with or like as long as they are done in a constructive manner. i have always said i learn so much more from my mistakes and failures. So I can appreciate others opinions and thoughts even if i differ in what i like to do. Just so there is no misunderstanding, this is not in response to the TMI seats thing, but rather to what i am about to talk about.

So i need seats installed in the cab so that i can figure out if i can do my next idea, which is to install a partial Rollcage in the cab that will exit the rear of the cab and mount in the bed. Now the idea here is to actually mount it to the frame, under the cab and under the bed, BUT make it removable. They make these couplers that are meant for Rollcages that i will use. I want to put a loop behind the seats with a crossbar to mount the seatbelt harness should straps to, then exit the cab and go to the bed and to the frame. This is my idea, not sure it will work, but it is my idea.

So this is why i made the earlier statement. Some will not like the idea at all, not even in the slightest. Kinda like cutting a longbed into a shortbed, same people. I understand that my ideas are not everyones bag of tea, but to me, they are my ideas. I fully respect anyones ideology and thoughts and even invite constructive comments done in constructive way, i always appreciate them. BUT if you have nothing nice or constructive to say about this or anyones ideas, regardless of what it is, just keep it to yourself. I have had many responses to my build, and to date i appreciate everyone one of them, not matter what. But i know that i mentioned this idea when i was doing my 1969 C10 along with cutting it from a longbed to shortbed and i got bashed, bad. To be honest, not all were negative though, some where just saying what they thought and did so in a constructive way, and i really appreciated that, but damn, some where just wrong. So please just be constructive, and not just to me, but to all.

Sorry for the long post here, i just know that this idea of the rollcage can bring out the not so nice posters... and i just want to say my peace. Please forgive me if i upset anyone, that is not my intention, only to try to help some look at how they respond to others.

God Bless
Is said partial roll-cage (roll bar technically) planned to be taller than the seat but under the rear window or full height/above rear window?

When you describe the 'down' bars from cab to bed, is your plan to keep them below the top of the front bed panel (out of sight) or in plain sight above the bed sides?

You mentioned using tubing couplers for the pass-through construction. What is your chassis anchoring plan for the tubes?
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Is said partial roll-cage (roll bar technically) planned to be taller than the seat but under the rear window or full height/above rear window?

When you describe the 'down' bars from cab to bed, is your plan to keep them below the top of the front bed panel (out of sight) or in plain sight above the bed sides?

You mentioned using tubing couplers for the pass-through construction. What is your chassis anchoring plan for the tubes?
You are correct, roll bar, with angled down bars to the bed area. Please bare with me as i try to explain my idea. lol
So inside the cab behind the seats and tucked as close as possible to the rear corners of the cab down bars that will connect to the Frame, going through the cab floor. Somewhere near the floor, install heavy duty tubing connectors, they are like solid steel cut in half and then connect together by bolted connection, then the bar will go as high as possible to the roof then bend to connect to the other side, above the windshield if possible. Then in-between the two down tubes in the corner of cab, just below the ledge that is along the back of the cab have a cross bar that the harness could mount to and then look at cross bracing that bar down to the lower parts of the side bars, then if needed another crossbar above the back of the seats for bracing as needed to make the roll bar functional. Then up top on top cross bar, have another bar exist each side of the cab to the outside - Straight - then angle down to the bed area to a place that makes sense and connect to the frame. Some point in the these bars have those tubbing connectors so that i can remove the cab if needed in the future. Also have some cross bracing in these two angled bars to the bed.

Not sure if that helps or not, but please give me your feedback, anyone.
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Just a side note, the seat mounts just showed up, so i can do some test fitting now. Not sure how they will work. They seem a bit tall, but i will mount them and see. I can always alter the heights.
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