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**oldman3** · 01-17-2015, 07:13 PM

Frame is looking great...Jim

47 Fasttoys · 01-17-2015, 07:33 PM

Hey Hotrod, making good progress. What you may want to try is using some adjustable set-up bolts in place of the Shockwaves for now. By doing this you can set the lower control arm horizontal with the ground for your final ride height. AD is right on the money for normal rake rear to front. I have found that if you build close to final ride height you can find and correct some of the issues that come with a lower riding truck. I would agree, someone did a good job on the clip install. Keep up the good work.
Rob

**Advanced Design** · 01-17-2015, 08:43 PM

You've been busy Hotrod! Looks good. Rob offers good advice above. I use large diameter all thread rod with nuts and large washers. Makes it easy to adjust ride height.

Check the ride height with the lower control arms level to ground before you buy the drop spindles. You may not need them.

Keep at it! Good work.
Doug

hotrodelrod · 01-17-2015, 08:56 PM

Thanks for the input guys. Rob, great idea. Doug, I think you are right. My front shocks will mount a bit higher than before effectively lowering the front ride height (I think?) I will wait and see on the drop spindles but really dont think I will need them. Jim, thanks for the compliment. I am really enjoying myself so far.

Rick

hotrodelrod · 02-05-2015, 07:59 PM

scored a 99 Explorer rear with 373 posi and disc brakes for $150
Started installing the Horton Welder Series parallel 4 link
Mocked up the front suspension. Lesson learned here. Spend the $75 per shock for the stud mount top. Much time and aggravation went into trying too make the Shockwaves work as they are.
Frame is now totally boxed with 3/16 plate. Just need to flip her and weld the bottom up.
Rear view. Ordered a step notch kit and tubular frame center section from Horton. Will finally arrive tomorrow. I thought I could get away with a "C" notch but it was not enough.
Only answer I have been able to find for getting the Ford 4.5 bolt pattern up front and keeping my stock G body spindle is redriling 4.75 rotors. My friend at the local Speed shop is going to let me use his mill to do so. I bought new rotors so I hope to only do this once.
More to come....
Cheers!

**Advanced Design** · 02-05-2015, 08:24 PM

You have been busy Rick! Nice score on the rear end. Frame is looking good!

**oldman3** · 02-05-2015, 08:56 PM

Sweet looking, keep up the great work...Jim

hotrodelrod · 02-06-2015, 09:23 PM

Parts came this afternoon. Was able to get 1 side completed and other side tacked in before wife started chirping. Hope to finish other side and install tubular center section tomorrow!

Rick

**Advanced Design** · 02-06-2015, 11:34 PM

The notches look good. Paul Horton's product?

hotrodelrod · 02-07-2015, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Advanced Design

The notches look good. Paul Horton's product?

Yes. I used his 4 link kit, panhard bar, shock xmember, and tubular center section is next. Real nice pieces imo. Since this is my first true build I asked "Reaper" about his 4 link and he recommended Hortons stuff. Great advice!

hotrodelrod · 02-12-2015, 08:45 PM

Finished up the step notches and panhard bar.
Mocking up for frame center section.

**oldman3** · 02-12-2015, 09:07 PM

Coming together nicely...Jim

hotrodelrod · 02-12-2015, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldman3

Coming together nicely...Jim

Thanks Jim! This tubular center section/trans mount is going to take a little time. I think I've finally got an understanding on how to install it now. It too is a Horton part. Whats nice is the fact that he will answer the phone and give you help when needed. Thats a rare commodity now days!

Rick

**Advanced Design** · 02-12-2015, 09:45 PM

Man, I really like watching a chassis come together. Looking really good Rick!

Was looking at Horton's web site and the center section so will enjoy seeing how this one comes together. Paul has some great ideas and sounds like good customer service. Are the tube ends notched to fit over the tube it joins to?

hotrodelrod · 02-13-2015, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Advanced Design

Man, I really like watching a chassis come together. Looking really good Rick!

Was looking at Horton's web site and the center section so will enjoy seeing how this one comes together. Paul has some great ideas and sounds like good customer service. Are the tube ends notched to fit over the tube it joins to?

Hi Doug. Yes, all notching is done by Horton. The builder just needs to cut to fit within the frame rails. I hope to be able to get back to it this afternoon and maybe have a pic of it to post tonight. One other thing worth mentioning when using Hortons stuff. The prices you see online/in catalog are in Canadian $ and if you are in the States you save 15% from those prices listed.

Rick

hotrodelrod · 02-13-2015, 08:35 PM

I tried to take some pictures of the progress of the Horton tubular center section assembly. Seems I should stick to my day job but i think you will get the idea.

hotrodelrod · 02-13-2015, 08:43 PM

More pics with the final 2 pics showing its final stance/ ride height with a 2 degree rake.

**Advanced Design** · 02-13-2015, 09:29 PM

Looks good Rick. Center section is nice!

**oldman3** · 02-14-2015, 10:32 AM

Nice job, looks good...Jim

Liddy71 · 02-14-2015, 11:25 AM

Nice work keep pics coming

**Advanced Design** · 03-14-2015, 09:56 AM

Hi Rick, I was wondering if you have any updates? Hope all is well. Doug

b.sharp · 03-15-2015, 10:07 PM

If for some reason you are going to have to run spacers up front for your wheel clearance you can go from chevy to ford that way. Just a thought.

hotrodelrod · 12-07-2015, 08:15 PM

Sorry for the disappearing act guys. I am back onto the truck now that work has slowed for the season. I changed out the rear shock Xmember for a round one and now have the shocks set on all 4 corners. Starting to prep the frame and 4 bar/panhard for paint. Just ordered the pro brake flare kit from Eastwood and 3/16 Stainless to run brake lines. Also ordered some air lines and fittings to be able to temporarily control shocks.

**Advanced Design** · 12-07-2015, 08:41 PM

Welcome back Rick. Wondered where you went. You are getting more done than I am!

**oldman3** · 12-07-2015, 09:19 PM

Nice to see you back...Jim

01-17-2015, 07:13 PM	#26
oldman3 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: West Plains, Missouri Posts: 7,553	Re: Hotrodelrods 54 build Frame is looking great...Jim __________________ my build thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=459839 Jimbo's long bed step build:http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...t=464626<br />

01-17-2015, 07:33 PM	#27
47 Fasttoys Registered User Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Westminster, SC Posts: 933	Re: Hotrodelrods 54 build Hey Hotrod, making good progress. What you may want to try is using some adjustable set-up bolts in place of the Shockwaves for now. By doing this you can set the lower control arm horizontal with the ground for your final ride height. AD is right on the money for normal rake rear to front. I have found that if you build close to final ride height you can find and correct some of the issues that come with a lower riding truck. I would agree, someone did a good job on the clip install. Keep up the good work. Rob __________________ My '47 C.O.E build

01-17-2015, 08:43 PM	#28
Advanced Design Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Oblong, Illinois Posts: 7,017	Re: Hotrodelrods 54 build You've been busy Hotrod! Looks good. Rob offers good advice above. I use large diameter all thread rod with nuts and large washers. Makes it easy to adjust ride height. Check the ride height with the lower control arms level to ground before you buy the drop spindles. You may not need them. Keep at it! Good work. Doug __________________ Doug Advanced Design’s 1977 Blazer Build Advanced Design's '48 'Burb Build Mrs Advanced Design's '72 Suburban Advanced Design's 56 BelAir LS swap

01-17-2015, 08:56 PM	#29
hotrodelrod Registered User Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: berryville, va Posts: 129	Re: Hotrodelrods 54 build Thanks for the input guys. Rob, great idea. Doug, I think you are right. My front shocks will mount a bit higher than before effectively lowering the front ride height (I think?) I will wait and see on the drop spindles but really dont think I will need them. Jim, thanks for the compliment. I am really enjoying myself so far. Rick

02-05-2015, 07:59 PM	#30
hotrodelrod Registered User Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: berryville, va Posts: 129	Re: Hotrodelrods 54 build scored a 99 Explorer rear with 373 posi and disc brakes for $150 Started installing the Horton Welder Series parallel 4 link Mocked up the front suspension. Lesson learned here. Spend the $75 per shock for the stud mount top. Much time and aggravation went into trying too make the Shockwaves work as they are. Frame is now totally boxed with 3/16 plate. Just need to flip her and weld the bottom up. Rear view. Ordered a step notch kit and tubular frame center section from Horton. Will finally arrive tomorrow. I thought I could get away with a "C" notch but it was not enough. Only answer I have been able to find for getting the Ford 4.5 bolt pattern up front and keeping my stock G body spindle is redriling 4.75 rotors. My friend at the local Speed shop is going to let me use his mill to do so. I bought new rotors so I hope to only do this once. More to come.... Cheers! Attached Images

02-05-2015, 08:24 PM	#31
Advanced Design Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Oblong, Illinois Posts: 7,017	Re: Hotrodelrods 54 build You have been busy Rick! Nice score on the rear end. Frame is looking good! __________________ Doug Advanced Design’s 1977 Blazer Build Advanced Design's '48 'Burb Build Mrs Advanced Design's '72 Suburban Advanced Design's 56 BelAir LS swap

02-05-2015, 08:56 PM	#32
oldman3 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: West Plains, Missouri Posts: 7,553	Re: Hotrodelrods 54 build Sweet looking, keep up the great work...Jim __________________ my build thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=459839 Jimbo's long bed step build:http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...t=464626<br />

02-06-2015, 09:23 PM	#33
hotrodelrod Registered User Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: berryville, va Posts: 129	Re: Hotrodelrods 54 build Parts came this afternoon. Was able to get 1 side completed and other side tacked in before wife started chirping. Hope to finish other side and install tubular center section tomorrow! Rick Attached Images

02-06-2015, 11:34 PM	#34
Advanced Design Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Oblong, Illinois Posts: 7,017	Re: Hotrodelrods 54 build The notches look good. Paul Horton's product? __________________ Doug Advanced Design’s 1977 Blazer Build Advanced Design's '48 'Burb Build Mrs Advanced Design's '72 Suburban Advanced Design's 56 BelAir LS swap

02-12-2015, 08:45 PM	#36
hotrodelrod Registered User Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: berryville, va Posts: 129	Re: Hotrodelrods 54 build Finished up the step notches and panhard bar. Mocking up for frame center section. Attached Images

02-12-2015, 09:07 PM	#37
oldman3 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: West Plains, Missouri Posts: 7,553	Re: Hotrodelrods 54 build Coming together nicely...Jim __________________ my build thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=459839 Jimbo's long bed step build:http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...t=464626<br />

02-12-2015, 09:45 PM	#39
Advanced Design Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Oblong, Illinois Posts: 7,017	Re: Hotrodelrods 54 build Man, I really like watching a chassis come together. Looking really good Rick! Was looking at Horton's web site and the center section so will enjoy seeing how this one comes together. Paul has some great ideas and sounds like good customer service. Are the tube ends notched to fit over the tube it joins to? __________________ Doug Advanced Design’s 1977 Blazer Build Advanced Design's '48 'Burb Build Mrs Advanced Design's '72 Suburban Advanced Design's 56 BelAir LS swap

02-13-2015, 08:35 PM	#41
hotrodelrod Registered User Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: berryville, va Posts: 129	Re: Hotrodelrods 54 build I tried to take some pictures of the progress of the Horton tubular center section assembly. Seems I should stick to my day job but i think you will get the idea. Attached Images

02-13-2015, 08:43 PM	#42
hotrodelrod Registered User Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: berryville, va Posts: 129	Re: Hotrodelrods 54 build More pics with the final 2 pics showing its final stance/ ride height with a 2 degree rake. Attached Images

02-13-2015, 09:29 PM	#43
Advanced Design Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Oblong, Illinois Posts: 7,017	Re: Hotrodelrods 54 build Looks good Rick. Center section is nice! __________________ Doug Advanced Design’s 1977 Blazer Build Advanced Design's '48 'Burb Build Mrs Advanced Design's '72 Suburban Advanced Design's 56 BelAir LS swap



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02-14-2015, 10:32 AM	#44
oldman3 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: West Plains, Missouri Posts: 7,553	Re: Hotrodelrods 54 build Nice job, looks good...Jim __________________ my build thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=459839 Jimbo's long bed step build:http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...t=464626<br />

02-14-2015, 11:25 AM	#45
Liddy71 Registered User Join Date: May 2010 Location: Kenova, WV Posts: 821	Re: Hotrodelrods 54 build Nice work keep pics coming

03-14-2015, 09:56 AM	#46
Advanced Design Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Oblong, Illinois Posts: 7,017	Re: Hotrodelrods 54 build Hi Rick, I was wondering if you have any updates? Hope all is well. Doug __________________ Doug Advanced Design’s 1977 Blazer Build Advanced Design's '48 'Burb Build Mrs Advanced Design's '72 Suburban Advanced Design's 56 BelAir LS swap

03-15-2015, 10:07 PM	#47
b.sharp Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Frankfort, Kentucky Posts: 508	Re: Hotrodelrods 54 build If for some reason you are going to have to run spacers up front for your wheel clearance you can go from chevy to ford that way. Just a thought.

12-07-2015, 08:15 PM	#48
hotrodelrod Registered User Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: berryville, va Posts: 129	Re: Hotrodelrods 54 build Sorry for the disappearing act guys. I am back onto the truck now that work has slowed for the season. I changed out the rear shock Xmember for a round one and now have the shocks set on all 4 corners. Starting to prep the frame and 4 bar/panhard for paint. Just ordered the pro brake flare kit from Eastwood and 3/16 Stainless to run brake lines. Also ordered some air lines and fittings to be able to temporarily control shocks. Attached Images

12-07-2015, 08:41 PM	#49
Advanced Design Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Oblong, Illinois Posts: 7,017	Re: Hotrodelrods 54 build Welcome back Rick. Wondered where you went. You are getting more done than I am! __________________ Doug Advanced Design’s 1977 Blazer Build Advanced Design's '48 'Burb Build Mrs Advanced Design's '72 Suburban Advanced Design's 56 BelAir LS swap

12-07-2015, 09:19 PM	#50
oldman3 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: West Plains, Missouri Posts: 7,553	Re: Hotrodelrods 54 build Nice to see you back...Jim __________________ my build thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=459839 Jimbo's long bed step build:http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...t=464626<br />

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