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poorboy · 12-18-2006, 12:03 AM

I've heard you can convert an old a/c pump to fill air bag tanks. Does anyone know what needs to be done. I would also think I would need some kind of swith to turn it off and on like a home compressor. Any ideas.

67Fleet · 12-18-2006, 11:52 AM

Look for a York 210 compressor. You'll need to fab up mounting brackets, or find someone to make them. I'm not sure what all is involved in the plumbing, but it should not be that difficult.

Rollie396 · 12-18-2006, 01:15 PM

I'm in the homework stage of this mod too.It's looking like the main problems will be 1.mounting (have to fab own brackets and find the room to put that big sucker) 2.connecting airlines,because apparently the connections to the pump aren't NPT,though I hear kilbyenterprises can help with that.3.pulley to run it.This won't be a problem for me so much cuz I'm running a v belt,but if you're planning on a serpentine system,then you'll be needing to talk to kilby again

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anyhow,here's some reading for you.If you need anything else,I got lots of results when I googled "onboard air".Have fun with it!

http://www.bagginit.com/york_page_1

http://www.jedi.com/obiwan/jeep/yorkair.html

http://www.kilbyenterprises.com/faq.htm (a good diagram to give you an idea of the set up on this page)

poorboy · 12-18-2006, 05:05 PM

My truck already has a York and the brakets. Here's some pics.
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=219766
I also found this on the web
http://coloradok5.com/york.shtml

short step · 12-18-2006, 07:01 PM

look around in offroaders.com or kilbyenterprises.com/oba-scem.htm
offroad guys use them all the time

77 burb · 12-18-2006, 08:30 PM

pirate4x4.com
click on bulletin board then
click chevy look through build ups
lot of guys use stock ac comp to run air tool off road

jimmydean · 12-18-2006, 10:11 PM

Wow, I had something like that for the JC Penny A/C unit that my truck came with. I ripped all that crap out when I swapped motors. The PO took the belt off the compressor in an attempt to save gas and I sure didn't want to tran and deal with it.

SlammedDime · 12-19-2006, 01:37 AM

I also have an almost complete how-to at http://www.airridetalk.com/tutorials.../air-on-demand. Its more complete than the one at bagginit.com, and it actually has pictures.

bodydropped · 12-19-2006, 11:19 AM

ur york should work all u need it to put an air filter on one side and and run the other side to ur tank but figure how to use a pressure switch or toggle switch to kick out the comp when ur tank is up to pressure

jimmydean · 12-19-2006, 01:05 PM

SlammedDime, thanks for the link. I may look to make this change at some point since I have a feeling I will play with the switches more than I thought I would in the beginning.

pharcyde05 · 12-19-2006, 02:17 PM

hear is a link there are cpmpressors and brackets i have put 2 of these on one on my 2000 silverado and one on a 2002 S-10 you need a tep switch to shut it off if it gets hot and a pressure switch to shut it off when tank is full you can run them bolth through a relay connected to the clutch on the compressor
it creats a lot of heat so you need a leader line that will withstand alot of heat and pressure for the first 2 feet or so out of the compressor so the air has some time to cool off and a check valve at the tank is a good idea so you dont get blead back once the compressor is off

http://www.airbagit-store.com/produc...ory.asp?id=542

SlammedDime · 12-19-2006, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pharcyde05

hear is a link there are cpmpressors and brackets i have put 2 of these on one on my 2000 silverado and one on a 2002 S-10 you need a tep switch to shut it off if it gets hot and a pressure switch to shut it off when tank is full you can run them bolth through a relay connected to the clutch on the compressor
it creats a lot of heat so you need a leader line that will withstand alot of heat and pressure for the first 2 feet or so out of the compressor so the air has some time to cool off and a check valve at the tank is a good idea so you dont get blead back once the compressor is off

While I'm sure the Sanden compressors are great if properly installed, they require more maintenance than a York, and on top of that, I would not buy anything from AIM if you could help it. I can't recommend enough that everyone stay far away from that company.

pharcyde05 · 12-19-2006, 05:24 PM

yea i know what you meen its was just where i knew had good pics i went down to my local AC shop and had them rebulid me a comprossor that i got from a wrecking yard and built a bracket desighned after the aim bracket put a oiler on one side and a seperater on the other side and it has worked great for 3 years
i know peoepl that have had problems with bolth the sandedn and the york if teh sanden gets hot you have to change the plate under the head and i know some guys that have had the york rod snap and rod bearings go out
i prefer belt drivento elect always though much more vol and quieter

CHAPS7931 · 12-20-2006, 12:20 AM

http://www.jedi.com/obiwan/jeep/york_mounting.html
http://www.capitalcitycrawlers.com/OBA_System.htm
http://www.geocities.com/spencerhut/truck/air.htm[IMG]
http://www.toyotaoffroad.com/Article..._board_air.htm
http://www.toyotaoffroad.com/Articles/Projects/on_board_air/on_board_air.htm[/IMG]
but it should be easy on your set up i would think since its already there just run the hose

CHAPS7931 · 12-20-2006, 12:22 AM

jimmydean · 12-21-2006, 06:34 AM

Anyone make a bracket to mount the York on a older V8? I feel like a jackass for tossing all that crap last year.

My engine is newer than my truck. My alternator is on the passenger side if that helps at all.

Col Clank · 12-21-2006, 07:06 AM

http://lowriderimpala.com/products.html

If you look through this guys 64 Impala build he has a full pic set of the brakcet he fabbed etc, Overpriced but if you have any fab skills not hard to remake.

poorboy · 12-21-2006, 11:07 AM

I can take mine off and take a pic for you.

Col Clank · 12-21-2006, 03:23 PM

would you please I would like to see it also

XXL · 12-22-2006, 05:22 PM

More info on this conversion...

linky clickie thing

454_72_4X4 · 12-22-2006, 08:55 PM

I have a York compressor out in the shop right now. It came off of a chevy truck with a small block in it. I've been saving it for the same type of conversion but I can take pics of the brackets.
I might be able to build a duplicate set of brackets also. (Depends on just how complicated they are! LOL)

poorboy · 12-23-2006, 01:54 AM

Here's some pics. It's kinda bulky but it's from the 60's. It has a spring loaded tensioner.

jimmydean · 01-01-2007, 02:32 PM

I've decided I am going to start looking at compressor options. I was reading an article about using a non-York compressor and adding a tool oiler. I think I will see what I can find to mount on the drivers side that is small enough to deal with.

short step · 01-01-2007, 08:50 PM

http://www.lowriderimpala.com/yorkupdate

jimmydean · 01-01-2007, 09:33 PM

I meant something other than a York to mount on the driver side. I will go to the yard and find something to pull and convert. I'm thinking a stock GM compressor with all the brackets, pullies and stuff.

The york is a good option, but looks awful. No matter how you mount it or set it up, it looks out of place (that's why I tossed it in the first place).

12-18-2006, 12:03 AM	#1
poorboy Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Oregon City, Or Posts: 758	A/C compressor conversion I've heard you can convert an old a/c pump to fill air bag tanks. Does anyone know what needs to be done. I would also think I would need some kind of swith to turn it off and on like a home compressor. Any ideas.

12-18-2006, 11:52 AM	#2
67Fleet Outlandish Trends - FL Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Orlando Posts: 1,396	Re: A/C compressor conversion Look for a York 210 compressor. You'll need to fab up mounting brackets, or find someone to make them. I'm not sure what all is involved in the plumbing, but it should not be that difficult. __________________ -Bret 67 short-fleet sold!

12-18-2006, 01:15 PM	#3
Rollie396 someday it will be done! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Lloydminster,AB. Canada Posts: 1,620	Re: A/C compressor conversion I'm in the homework stage of this mod too.It's looking like the main problems will be 1.mounting (have to fab own brackets and find the room to put that big sucker) 2.connecting airlines,because apparently the connections to the pump aren't NPT,though I hear kilbyenterprises can help with that.3.pulley to run it.This won't be a problem for me so much cuz I'm running a v belt,but if you're planning on a serpentine system,then you'll be needing to talk to kilby again . anyhow,here's some reading for you.If you need anything else,I got lots of results when I googled "onboard air".Have fun with it! http://www.bagginit.com/york_page_1 http://www.jedi.com/obiwan/jeep/yorkair.html http://www.kilbyenterprises.com/faq.htm (a good diagram to give you an idea of the set up on this page) __________________ '72 C-10 Proud owner of a million new and used pieces that used to be and will once again be(god willing) a testament to the term "they don't build em like that anymore. '80 LWB 2wd beater '67 GMC long fleet (cab donor) '66 long step (parked till it's turn comes around) '65 short step (parts truck that will donate it's bed and possibly frame to the '66) '06 Grand Prix wife's car (she hardly lets me touch it) my pics

12-18-2006, 05:05 PM	#4
poorboy Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Oregon City, Or Posts: 758	Re: A/C compressor conversion My truck already has a York and the brakets. Here's some pics. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=219766 I also found this on the web http://coloradok5.com/york.shtml

12-18-2006, 07:01 PM	#5
short step Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Ludlow,MA Posts: 145	Re: A/C compressor conversion look around in offroaders.com or kilbyenterprises.com/oba-scem.htm offroad guys use them all the time

12-18-2006, 08:30 PM	#6
77 burb Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: stafford,Va Posts: 30	Re: A/C compressor conversion pirate4x4.com click on bulletin board then click chevy look through build ups lot of guys use stock ac comp to run air tool off road __________________ *********************** 84 burb soon to bag and drop bagging it,shaving bumpers(f/r) shave tail lights(leds below tail gate) updated flat door handles(chevy) ************************ leblancinva@yahoo.com

12-18-2006, 10:11 PM	#7
jimmydean Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Beaverton, OR Posts: 3,728	Re: A/C compressor conversion Wow, I had something like that for the JC Penny A/C unit that my truck came with. I ripped all that crap out when I swapped motors. The PO took the belt off the compressor in an attempt to save gas and I sure didn't want to tran and deal with it.

12-19-2006, 01:37 AM	#8
SlammedDime Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 41	Re: A/C compressor conversion I also have an almost complete how-to at http://www.airridetalk.com/tutorials.../air-on-demand. Its more complete than the one at bagginit.com, and it actually has pictures. __________________ Matt Admin @ AirRideTalk.com Win FREE Viair compressors!

12-19-2006, 11:19 AM	#9
bodydropped Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: beaumont,tx Posts: 757	Re: A/C compressor conversion ur york should work all u need it to put an air filter on one side and and run the other side to ur tank but figure how to use a pressure switch or toggle switch to kick out the comp when ur tank is up to pressure __________________ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...ropped/sig.jpg

12-19-2006, 01:05 PM	#10
jimmydean Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Beaverton, OR Posts: 3,728	Re: A/C compressor conversion SlammedDime, thanks for the link. I may look to make this change at some point since I have a feeling I will play with the switches more than I thought I would in the beginning.

12-19-2006, 02:17 PM	#11
pharcyde05 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: modesto CA Posts: 239	Re: A/C compressor conversion hear is a link there are cpmpressors and brackets i have put 2 of these on one on my 2000 silverado and one on a 2002 S-10 you need a tep switch to shut it off if it gets hot and a pressure switch to shut it off when tank is full you can run them bolth through a relay connected to the clutch on the compressor it creats a lot of heat so you need a leader line that will withstand alot of heat and pressure for the first 2 feet or so out of the compressor so the air has some time to cool off and a check valve at the tank is a good idea so you dont get blead back once the compressor is off http://www.airbagit-store.com/produc...ory.asp?id=542 __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2461088

12-19-2006, 05:24 PM	#13
pharcyde05 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: modesto CA Posts: 239	Re: A/C compressor conversion yea i know what you meen its was just where i knew had good pics i went down to my local AC shop and had them rebulid me a comprossor that i got from a wrecking yard and built a bracket desighned after the aim bracket put a oiler on one side and a seperater on the other side and it has worked great for 3 years i know peoepl that have had problems with bolth the sandedn and the york if teh sanden gets hot you have to change the plate under the head and i know some guys that have had the york rod snap and rod bearings go out i prefer belt drivento elect always though much more vol and quieter __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2461088

12-20-2006, 12:20 AM	#14
CHAPS7931 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: san jose california Posts: 109	Re: A/C compressor conversion http://www.jedi.com/obiwan/jeep/york_mounting.html http://www.capitalcitycrawlers.com/OBA_System.htm http://www.geocities.com/spencerhut/truck/air.htm[IMG] http://www.toyotaoffroad.com/Article..._board_air.htm http://www.toyotaoffroad.com/Articles/Projects/on_board_air/on_board_air.htm[/IMG] but it should be easy on your set up i would think since its already there just run the hose Last edited by CHAPS7931; 12-20-2006 at 12:21 AM.

12-20-2006, 12:22 AM	#15
CHAPS7931 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: san jose california Posts: 109	Re: A/C compressor conversion

12-21-2006, 06:34 AM	#16
jimmydean Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Beaverton, OR Posts: 3,728	Re: A/C compressor conversion Anyone make a bracket to mount the York on a older V8? I feel like a jackass for tossing all that crap last year. My engine is newer than my truck. My alternator is on the passenger side if that helps at all.



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12-21-2006, 07:06 AM	#17
Col Clank Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Shreveport, LA Posts: 137	Re: A/C compressor conversion http://lowriderimpala.com/products.html If you look through this guys 64 Impala build he has a full pic set of the brakcet he fabbed etc, Overpriced but if you have any fab skills not hard to remake.

12-21-2006, 11:07 AM	#18
poorboy Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Oregon City, Or Posts: 758	Re: A/C compressor conversion I can take mine off and take a pic for you.

12-21-2006, 03:23 PM	#19
Col Clank Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Shreveport, LA Posts: 137	Re: A/C compressor conversion would you please I would like to see it also

12-22-2006, 05:22 PM	#20
XXL Señor Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Edge of the world Posts: 5,367	Re: A/C compressor conversion More info on this conversion... linky clickie thing __________________ Craigslist \| ebay \| Engrishtees \| www.myattitudesucks.com \| Follow me on Twitter

12-22-2006, 08:55 PM	#21
454_72_4X4 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: N.E. MO Posts: 1,749	Re: A/C compressor conversion I have a York compressor out in the shop right now. It came off of a chevy truck with a small block in it. I've been saving it for the same type of conversion but I can take pics of the brackets. I might be able to build a duplicate set of brackets also. (Depends on just how complicated they are! LOL) __________________ 72 C20 4X4 454 4 speed 89 Trans Am (was) 305 TPI 700r4 93 C1500 2wd Extended cab 350 700r4 98 Sonoma (TPI outa the Trans Am) 03 Yamaha 660 Raptor 03/04 660 Raptor 07 700 Raptor 85 Honda Odyssey

12-23-2006, 01:54 AM	#22
poorboy Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Oregon City, Or Posts: 758	Re: A/C compressor conversion Here's some pics. It's kinda bulky but it's from the 60's. It has a spring loaded tensioner.

01-01-2007, 02:32 PM	#23
jimmydean Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Beaverton, OR Posts: 3,728	Re: A/C compressor conversion I've decided I am going to start looking at compressor options. I was reading an article about using a non-York compressor and adding a tool oiler. I think I will see what I can find to mount on the drivers side that is small enough to deal with.

01-01-2007, 08:50 PM	#24
short step Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Ludlow,MA Posts: 145	Re: A/C compressor conversion http://www.lowriderimpala.com/yorkupdate

01-01-2007, 09:33 PM	#25
jimmydean Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Beaverton, OR Posts: 3,728	Re: A/C compressor conversion I meant something other than a York to mount on the driver side. I will go to the yard and find something to pull and convert. I'm thinking a stock GM compressor with all the brackets, pullies and stuff. The york is a good option, but looks awful. No matter how you mount it or set it up, it looks out of place (that's why I tossed it in the first place).

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