Operation Second Chance :D (1970 CST/10 402 - Longbox) - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

JON70CST · 03-25-2011, 05:55 PM

Well after regretting selling my 68 C10 project last year, a second chance to own and build a 67-72 Chev has presented itself and there is no way I'm letting it pass me by!

This evening I am off to pick up my new project

After selling my 68 C10 a year ago exactly, and trading my 66 Chevy II moredoor last Friday for a fresh ready to go 454 BBC, I ran into the problem of not having anything to put my new big block into. So the search began... and this is what I came up with

These are the pictures the seller sent to me, more to come after a bath and some fresh gas on the way home!

And this is what is going into her... (again more pictures to come once it is dressed up properly haha)

I know the post of this build thread may be a little... premature... haha but I just couldn't wait to get back on the forum, and have something in common with the rest of you once again

ENJOY!!!

bigguy69 · 03-25-2011, 08:50 PM

im in!!

Cameron 1137 · 03-25-2011, 11:20 PM

sweet deal man, nice lookin truck, and engine! im in too

JON70CST · 03-26-2011, 12:43 AM

Thanks for the early support! After doing a few laps around town right after I bought it, she is in the garage... parked next to the her soon to come power house! I can't wait!!!! This 402 will not be ignored though... I thought about selling it, but the truck is all original and all there, so I want to rebuild and keep the motor on the back burner

More progress and pictures to come tomorrow! But not it is time to finally sleep! I haven't had much lately... as the last few nights I have been like a 4 year old on Christmas Eve... just waiting for today to come so I could pick up my new toy

Cameron 1137 · 03-26-2011, 09:35 AM

always good to have that extra motor ready for action if you ever needed it! looking forward to more pics.

JON70CST · 03-26-2011, 10:39 AM

So after getting the truck cleaned up a bit, I crawled underneath and she is very clean, and is going to be great to work on. Here's a picture I took really quick with my iPhone right after I washed her and wiped her down.

My question for you guys is, does anyone know what drop ratio, or what size drop springs I should buy to get her to sit where she is right now in the picture? I love its current ride hight, but want to do it properly... as I discovered the previous owner had a couple too many beer one night with a buddy, and they dropped the truck by heating up the springs with a torch. I am not worried about any damage done to the truck by doing this, as he never drove the truck like that... it was always just parked.

Also remember it has a BBC in it... and another one is going in once I start the 454 swap, so something that will keep it at this ride hight wight a big block in it, but will handle the weight.

Any help/suggestions would be great!

JON70CST · 03-26-2011, 09:26 PM

Anybody? haha

67chevy1series · 03-26-2011, 09:34 PM

your not alone!!!!!!!!!! great lookin truck i like the black with red but i am still wondering weather it is factory or not

JON70CST · 03-26-2011, 09:48 PM

Thanks 67chevy1series

Yeah I thought the same thing as well... but the seats, headliner, seat belts, dash pad, steering wheel etc. are all red... I know for sure that the paint is original. I'm not too worried about it not being "factory" as I'm not going to be letting this one go, and its "value" is not of too much importance to me, because I know what it is worth to me haha.

I thought it was black when I first looked at it too, but it is actually a very dark "windsor blue"... (same colour as my Dad's original '37 Chev).

67chevy1series · 03-26-2011, 09:55 PM

hmm ya im a stock factory guy, but i like a lot of customs that i see my dads has a 70 lwb fleetside 1/2 ton it was white with red , in 67 the red ineterior had the cab and dash painted red to so thats why i was wondering why your dash is black but it could be factory, they changed there paint stlyes around through the year

pulltilbroke · 03-26-2011, 09:57 PM

I really don't care for red but that interior is sick

JON70CST · 03-26-2011, 10:02 PM

Haha yeah I'm not usually one for the red either... but it actually doesn't look too bad.... obviously needs some re-doing, but it'll come with time. Right now my aim is to get that 454 in it, get it in tip-top shape mechanically, get it sitting with the perfect stance... then I'll worry about interior and paint.

pulltilbroke · 03-26-2011, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jonathonhargreaves

Haha yeah I'm not usually one for the red either... but it actually doesn't look too bad.... obviously needs some re-doing, but it'll come with time. Right now my aim is to get that 454 in it, get it in tip-top shape mechanically, get it sitting with the perfect stance... then I'll worry about interior and paint.

Were in the same boat, but I'm not goin with a big block.

JON70CST · 03-26-2011, 10:07 PM

Haha glad I'm not the only one... but I'm also very glad I have a lot more to work with this time over the 68 I previously had...

This will be my first big block build, but I figured I may as well considering the truck already has a factory 402 BBC in it, so why not stick with the theme haha

Cameron 1137 · 03-26-2011, 10:34 PM

she does have a great stance, low, but not too low. 3"in the front 4" in the rear possibly? dont take my word for it. that definitely the height i want for mine, it looks mean!

JON70CST · 03-26-2011, 11:59 PM

If I do 5" drop in the rear and 3" in the front think it'll even out with the weight of the 454?

Cameron 1137 · 03-27-2011, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jonathonhargreaves

If I do 5" drop in the rear and 3" in the front think it'll even out with the weight of the 454?

well, a big block weighs about 100 pounds more than a small block, so i dont think you need to go up a whole inch to compensate for the 454. 5 in the back 3.5 in the front will probably work

JON70CST · 03-27-2011, 10:07 PM

Any suggestions on the best place to order springs? I'm up in Canada so shipping might not be cheap either...
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VA72C10 · 03-28-2011, 02:30 AM

Looks like a solid truck and a sweet looking big block for it!!!

For springs that drop looks like a 3/5 roughly. Check ebay for deals. Call Early classics enterprises and see what they can do for you.

MrBeast · 03-28-2011, 02:36 AM

Man I tell you what, I have made the mistake of letting a couple of these trucks go, and I have always regretted it. Each time I did it was a financial situation that forced it when I was younger.

Well except for my old 70 short bed, my dad strong armed me into selling that truck when I was in high school, but that is because I kept getting in too much trouble with it.

JON70CST · 03-31-2011, 01:12 PM

Well the 454 swap commences tomorrow

I think I got most of the parts and supplies I will be needing... a little more than I expected but isn't that how it always turns out haha. Pictures of the tear down will be coming your way tomorrow!

KMACD71 · 03-31-2011, 10:37 PM

Nice to see another C10 in Lethbridge. My truck has a 2.5 / 4 drop and your truck looks a little lower than mine. I agree with others that a 3 or 3.5 / 5 would be what you're looking at. I'm kicking myself for not going a little lower.

JON70CST · 03-31-2011, 11:01 PM

Awesome another member from lethbridge!

Uh oh, I just ordered some 3"/4" lowering springs yesterday

Biggest reason I just went ahead with the 3/4's right now is cause the price was right, the springs that are in it now need to be removed asap, and it'll at least get me on the road for this summer. The 454 and everything going with it is tapping into the wallet.
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Cameron 1137 · 04-01-2011, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by jonathonhargreaves

Well the 454 swap commences tomorrow

I think I got most of the parts and supplies I will be needing... a little more than I expected but isn't that how it always turns out haha. Pictures of the tear down will be coming your way tomorrow!

Make sure you take LOTS of pictures. I'm looking forward to seeing this!

JON70CST · 04-01-2011, 01:50 PM

Oh there will be pictures a plenty, hopefully get some up late tonight or tomorrow morning.
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03-25-2011, 05:55 PM	#1
JON70CST Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Lethbridge, AB Posts: 234	Operation Second Chance!! 1970 CST/10 402 BBC - 454 BBC Swap Well after regretting selling my 68 C10 project last year, a second chance to own and build a 67-72 Chev has presented itself and there is no way I'm letting it pass me by! This evening I am off to pick up my new project After selling my 68 C10 a year ago exactly, and trading my 66 Chevy II moredoor last Friday for a fresh ready to go 454 BBC, I ran into the problem of not having anything to put my new big block into. So the search began... and this is what I came up with These are the pictures the seller sent to me, more to come after a bath and some fresh gas on the way home! And this is what is going into her... (again more pictures to come once it is dressed up properly haha) I know the post of this build thread may be a little... premature... haha but I just couldn't wait to get back on the forum, and have something in common with the rest of you once again ENJOY!!! Last edited by JON70CST; 03-26-2011 at 04:59 PM.

03-25-2011, 08:50 PM	#2
bigguy69 dazed and confused Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: marion nc Posts: 1,649	Re: Operation Second Chance :D (1970 CST/10 402 - Longbox) im in!! __________________ members met: redbaron69, billsbowtie,nc67

03-25-2011, 11:20 PM	#3
Cameron 1137 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Pittsfield, Ma Posts: 497	Re: Operation Second Chance :D (1970 CST/10 402 - Longbox) sweet deal man, nice lookin truck, and engine! im in too __________________ Cam 1972 Chevy C/10 "Custom Cruiser Project" Build Thread 1961 Olds Super 88 (Daily) 1966 Chevy Corvair 500, "Marigold" SOLD 2005 Subaru Outback Wagon DEAD 2008 Pontiac G8, New Winter/Daily

03-26-2011, 12:43 AM	#4
JON70CST Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Lethbridge, AB Posts: 234	Re: Operation Second Chance :D (1970 CST/10 402 - Longbox) Thanks for the early support! After doing a few laps around town right after I bought it, she is in the garage... parked next to the her soon to come power house! I can't wait!!!! This 402 will not be ignored though... I thought about selling it, but the truck is all original and all there, so I want to rebuild and keep the motor on the back burner More progress and pictures to come tomorrow! But not it is time to finally sleep! I haven't had much lately... as the last few nights I have been like a 4 year old on Christmas Eve... just waiting for today to come so I could pick up my new toy

03-26-2011, 09:35 AM	#5
Cameron 1137 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Pittsfield, Ma Posts: 497	Re: Operation Second Chance :D (1970 CST/10 402 - Longbox) always good to have that extra motor ready for action if you ever needed it! looking forward to more pics. __________________ Cam 1972 Chevy C/10 "Custom Cruiser Project" Build Thread 1961 Olds Super 88 (Daily) 1966 Chevy Corvair 500, "Marigold" SOLD 2005 Subaru Outback Wagon DEAD 2008 Pontiac G8, New Winter/Daily Last edited by Cameron 1137; 03-26-2011 at 09:36 AM.

03-26-2011, 10:39 AM	#6
JON70CST Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Lethbridge, AB Posts: 234	Re: Operation Second Chance :D (1970 CST/10 402 - Longbox) So after getting the truck cleaned up a bit, I crawled underneath and she is very clean, and is going to be great to work on. Here's a picture I took really quick with my iPhone right after I washed her and wiped her down. My question for you guys is, does anyone know what drop ratio, or what size drop springs I should buy to get her to sit where she is right now in the picture? I love its current ride hight, but want to do it properly... as I discovered the previous owner had a couple too many beer one night with a buddy, and they dropped the truck by heating up the springs with a torch. I am not worried about any damage done to the truck by doing this, as he never drove the truck like that... it was always just parked. Also remember it has a BBC in it... and another one is going in once I start the 454 swap, so something that will keep it at this ride hight wight a big block in it, but will handle the weight. Any help/suggestions would be great! Last edited by JON70CST; 03-26-2011 at 10:40 AM.

03-26-2011, 09:26 PM	#7
JON70CST Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Lethbridge, AB Posts: 234	Re: Operation Second Chance :D (1970 CST/10 402 - Longbox) Anybody? haha

03-26-2011, 09:34 PM	#8
67chevy1series Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: a t w a t e r cali 95301 Posts: 10,713	Re: Operation Second Chance :D (1970 CST/10 402 - Longbox) your not alone!!!!!!!!!! great lookin truck i like the black with red but i am still wondering weather it is factory or not

03-26-2011, 09:48 PM	#9
JON70CST Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Lethbridge, AB Posts: 234	Re: Operation Second Chance :D (1970 CST/10 402 - Longbox) Thanks 67chevy1series Yeah I thought the same thing as well... but the seats, headliner, seat belts, dash pad, steering wheel etc. are all red... I know for sure that the paint is original. I'm not too worried about it not being "factory" as I'm not going to be letting this one go, and its "value" is not of too much importance to me, because I know what it is worth to me haha. I thought it was black when I first looked at it too, but it is actually a very dark "windsor blue"... (same colour as my Dad's original '37 Chev).

03-26-2011, 09:55 PM	#10
67chevy1series Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: a t w a t e r cali 95301 Posts: 10,713	Re: Operation Second Chance :D (1970 CST/10 402 - Longbox) hmm ya im a stock factory guy, but i like a lot of customs that i see my dads has a 70 lwb fleetside 1/2 ton it was white with red , in 67 the red ineterior had the cab and dash painted red to so thats why i was wondering why your dash is black but it could be factory, they changed there paint stlyes around through the year

03-26-2011, 09:57 PM	#11
pulltilbroke Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Eagle Ne Posts: 356	Re: Operation Second Chance :D (1970 CST/10 402 - Longbox) I really don't care for red but that interior is sick __________________ 60 4x4,235,SM420,Rockwell T221,D44/HO33 sold 4/12 67 C-20,292,SM420,HO72 90 Dodge W250 Cummins,NV4500HD,205,D60/D80 93 Dodge W350 Dually Cummins, Getrag, 205,D60/D70

03-26-2011, 10:02 PM	#12
JON70CST Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Lethbridge, AB Posts: 234	Re: Operation Second Chance :D (1970 CST/10 402 - Longbox) Haha yeah I'm not usually one for the red either... but it actually doesn't look too bad.... obviously needs some re-doing, but it'll come with time. Right now my aim is to get that 454 in it, get it in tip-top shape mechanically, get it sitting with the perfect stance... then I'll worry about interior and paint.

03-26-2011, 10:07 PM	#14
JON70CST Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Lethbridge, AB Posts: 234	Re: Operation Second Chance :D (1970 CST/10 402 - Longbox) Haha glad I'm not the only one... but I'm also very glad I have a lot more to work with this time over the 68 I previously had... This will be my first big block build, but I figured I may as well considering the truck already has a factory 402 BBC in it, so why not stick with the theme haha

03-26-2011, 10:34 PM	#15
Cameron 1137 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Pittsfield, Ma Posts: 497	Re: Operation Second Chance :D (1970 CST/10 402 - Longbox) she does have a great stance, low, but not too low. 3"in the front 4" in the rear possibly? dont take my word for it. that definitely the height i want for mine, it looks mean! __________________ Cam 1972 Chevy C/10 "Custom Cruiser Project" Build Thread 1961 Olds Super 88 (Daily) 1966 Chevy Corvair 500, "Marigold" SOLD 2005 Subaru Outback Wagon DEAD 2008 Pontiac G8, New Winter/Daily

03-26-2011, 11:59 PM	#16
JON70CST Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Lethbridge, AB Posts: 234	Re: Operation Second Chance :D (1970 CST/10 402 - Longbox) If I do 5" drop in the rear and 3" in the front think it'll even out with the weight of the 454?



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03-27-2011, 10:07 PM	#18
JON70CST Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Lethbridge, AB Posts: 234	Re: Operation Second Chance :D (1970 CST/10 402 - Longbox) Any suggestions on the best place to order springs? I'm up in Canada so shipping might not be cheap either... Posted via Mobile Device

03-28-2011, 02:30 AM	#19
VA72C10 VA72C10 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Midlothian, VA Posts: 25,269	Re: Operation Second Chance :D (1970 CST/10 402 - Longbox) Looks like a solid truck and a sweet looking big block for it!!! For springs that drop looks like a 3/5 roughly. Check ebay for deals. Call Early classics enterprises and see what they can do for you. __________________ Looking for a 67-72 swb or blazer project in or around VA.

03-28-2011, 02:36 AM	#20
MrBeast high-Tech Red Neck Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Livingston, MT/On my boat WA/BC/AK Posts: 2,294	Re: Operation Second Chance :D (1970 CST/10 402 - Longbox) Man I tell you what, I have made the mistake of letting a couple of these trucks go, and I have always regretted it. Each time I did it was a financial situation that forced it when I was younger. Well except for my old 70 short bed, my dad strong armed me into selling that truck when I was in high school, but that is because I kept getting in too much trouble with it. __________________ "He used to be a pretty nice feller, now he's a welder!"

03-31-2011, 01:12 PM	#21
JON70CST Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Lethbridge, AB Posts: 234	Re: Operation Second Chance :D (1970 CST/10 402 - Longbox) Well the 454 swap commences tomorrow I think I got most of the parts and supplies I will be needing... a little more than I expected but isn't that how it always turns out haha. Pictures of the tear down will be coming your way tomorrow!

03-31-2011, 10:37 PM	#22
KMACD71 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Lethbridge,Alberta Posts: 532	Re: Operation Second Chance :D (1970 CST/10 402 - Longbox) Nice to see another C10 in Lethbridge. My truck has a 2.5 / 4 drop and your truck looks a little lower than mine. I agree with others that a 3 or 3.5 / 5 would be what you're looking at. I'm kicking myself for not going a little lower.

03-31-2011, 11:01 PM	#23
JON70CST Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Lethbridge, AB Posts: 234	Re: Operation Second Chance :D (1970 CST/10 402 - Longbox) Awesome another member from lethbridge! Uh oh, I just ordered some 3"/4" lowering springs yesterday Biggest reason I just went ahead with the 3/4's right now is cause the price was right, the springs that are in it now need to be removed asap, and it'll at least get me on the road for this summer. The 454 and everything going with it is tapping into the wallet. Posted via Mobile Device Last edited by JON70CST; 04-01-2011 at 02:50 AM.

04-01-2011, 01:50 PM	#25
JON70CST Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Lethbridge, AB Posts: 234	Re: Operation Second Chance :D (1970 CST/10 402 - Longbox) Oh there will be pictures a plenty, hopefully get some up late tonight or tomorrow morning. Posted via Mobile Device

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