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12-29-2017, 04:56 PM | #1 |
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VIN question
So I have a 65 Short bed Step, BUTTTTT my Model/VIN is 1C1445Z1XXXXX
I know its a half ton short bed step born in Fremont...... but why is there a 1 in front?? I did look at the Drivers front frame rail to verify as well for the last 8 digits. I swear I am not idiot but I just can not find the answer. I have looked at multiple decoders and they leave me with no answer. Help?
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12-29-2017, 06:00 PM | #2 |
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Does the stamp on the top of the drivers side frame-rail at about the cross-member read the same last seven numbers?
Oh wow after looking at that, looks weird. Two different stamps and the numbers after 1C144 are not in order? Check the frame rail number and report. Please.
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12-29-2017, 06:22 PM | #3 |
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Yes the stamp on the front is the same as the last digits on the VIN.
If I knew how to add a photo on the mobile I would. But yes it is a 1965, flat windshield and the front suspension is not torsion. Could it be a late 64 that was sold as a 65? Posted via Mobile Device Edit: first is the frame. Last edited by moneypit1965; 12-29-2017 at 06:48 PM. Reason: Add images |
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I know on the 67-72 the number on the SPID had the extra 1, wonder if the stamper got confused. If it matches your title and your state allows those rivets (could have been done by body shop during a repair), your good I guess. Far as I know most all the 60-64 Vins were welded on, not held on with rosette rivets.
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There is a thread/poll here recently - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=670947 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=539385 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...12&postcount=9
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12-31-2017, 05:03 PM | #6 |
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First off, I appreciate all the responses in regards to my predicament. I did find the build sheet, from behind the seat and the piece for the VIN is intact. Sooooo I'll try and do some more research.
Again, Thank you all for the responses!
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12-31-2017, 05:57 PM | #7 |
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Does it show a year and the VIN on the sheet? Can you scan and post for us, maybe we will all learn something.
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12-30-2017, 03:52 PM | #8 |
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What is on the pink-slip/reg.? shows as a 61 but Freemont (z) was not around (built) then.
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12-30-2017, 07:17 PM | #9 |
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Registration says 65. It is physically a 65, registered as a 65, but this 1 is throwing stuff off.
And yes I know what the decoders say.
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12-30-2017, 10:47 PM | #10 |
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Those rivets on the vin tag look to be pop rivets, recent ones at that....
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12-30-2017, 11:07 PM | #11 |
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I thought about that buttttt I have seen others without the rosette style.
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12-31-2017, 10:21 AM | #12 |
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Looks like the VIN tag was replaced. Rivets are wrong, numbers don't add up.
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12-31-2017, 01:05 PM | #13 |
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Interesting for sure.
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12-31-2017, 06:26 PM | #14 |
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Re: VIN question
Just to add to the Rivet mystery , I have pictures of a survivor 1965 K10 Suburban from the Fremont plant = Z , with One Rosette rivet and One Round rivet . It also has the same Font differences in size as the original post here. I believe your tag and possibly even the rivets are original.
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12-31-2017, 09:14 PM | #15 |
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Here is my 66 tag. I do remember seeing repro tags on ebay with the model numbers pre stamped. There are blanks that pop up now and then.
http://www.classicdatatags.com/1965-...nd-trucks.html |
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ive been digging a little. the 1 seems to denote year?...1961
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=463671 |
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i know you said its a 65, but that tag is weird. anything ive seen says that the first digit denotes year. My vin does not have a number before the c and ill bet most others do not either.
http://www.oeltd.net/doc/6066gmc/VINs/gmc-canada.htm http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/a...1&d=1202233538 Last edited by rideblue00; 12-31-2017 at 08:27 PM. |
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Are repro tags even legal...
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12-31-2017, 11:38 PM | #20 |
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Probably not but I think the discussion is about the guys VIN (is it real etc) not the legality.
Then we will digress into posting laws from various states and making grand statements about what is legal. Personally I'd like to stay away from that and discuss what is real, repoped,faked or whatever on this guys truck, but that's just me.
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all three together
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01-01-2018, 08:19 AM | #22 |
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Here is the VIN thread I was talking about earlier.
http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...d.php?t=316902 On the vehicle in question - why again can't you show the entire VIN plate?
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If needed I can get a full photo. If the build sheet did have the year(besides from the vin) it has been destroyed from decades of temperature change and mice.
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Most VIN related questions I've seen are easily answered by simple research, but this one is perplexing. I'm no expert and have no answers, so I'll be watching how this evolves.
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That 1 at the beginning is weird.
Do build sheets show the year of the vehicle? like 1965? Last edited by rideblue00; 01-01-2018 at 09:25 AM. |
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