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JohnC · 10-13-2009, 10:11 AM

8" Holy Cow!

Yeah I know what you mean about the rain. It's been just drizzly here. Just enough that I can't get the last mowing done. Then also just enough to make work really slow.

**nlped** · 10-13-2009, 10:13 AM

^^^ bingo!!!!

68 TT · 10-13-2009, 11:14 AM

The weather turned lousy here just in time for me to have to make three consecutive 300+ mile trips to the mountains for work the rest of this week.

Record low temps and highs 20+ degrees below average. Global warming my butt.

At least I have a comfortable and capable 4x4 to make the trips in.

JohnC · 10-13-2009, 03:43 PM

Yeah my oldest daughter just moved to Portland. She called last night, and said it's cold here. I said "Welcome to the North"

RJS2 · 10-14-2009, 04:25 PM

Nice build

What kind of mileage are you getting with the 3.42 rears now?

Are you still planning on doing a write-up on the 5.3 installation?

glock35ipsc · 10-14-2009, 09:31 PM

Haven't really been able to tell. To much heavy right foot part way through the first full tank, then it snowed 8" this weekend. It's dried up now so I will be driving him again, and I need to drive him tomorrow to take the bumper to my coworker. I'm sure it will be a couple weeks before I can get a good mileage figure.

I'm slowly working on the FAQ. We've been super slammed at work, so I haven't been paying much attention to it for right now.

69face · 10-15-2009, 03:23 PM

very awesome build! I read through it a couple of times and it is absolutely perfect. I am doing the swap in a friends truck next week.

**nlped** · 10-23-2009, 08:01 AM

Well, any updates Bob? Or are you just enjoying drivin' Fred?

67ChevyRedneck · 10-24-2009, 09:45 PM

Very cool! I really like it!

joe231 · 10-24-2009, 10:20 PM

which 5.3 did you end up with?
gen III or gen IV?
iron block? LY5 or LMG
aluminum block? LH6 or LC9

honestly i did look back in the thread, but i couldn't find the answer....
just so you know, this thread has been torturing me since I don't have the scratch presently to do a 5.3 swap.......

**lolife99** · 10-24-2009, 10:38 PM

Glock,... I'd like to know a "realistic" dollar amount to do one of these swaps. (I know you found some good deals)
But for the average guy that needs to assemble all the parts and do the install from start to finish. (engine mounts headers, harness, fuel pump or gas tank mods, etc)

I guess what I mean is,... I need "X" amount of money,... or I shouldn't even consider it.
I have looked at other swaps and between $5000-$6000 seems to be the going rate.

joe231 · 10-25-2009, 12:02 AM

I just found a 5.3 on OKC craigslist for $600 with all the accessories and the computer

http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/pts/1406480140.html

menace121978 · 10-25-2009, 12:38 AM

what ever Joe.... i look everyday and the best if any at all is $1500 over here. grab it while the grabbings good buddy...

joe231 · 10-25-2009, 12:51 AM

I wish I could grab it
I found several around here for under $1000
one with trans for $1600...

Thealien · 10-25-2009, 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lolife99

Glock,... I'd like to know a "realistic" dollar amount to do one of these swaps. (I know you found some good deals)
But for the average guy that needs to assemble all the parts and do the install from start to finish. (engine mounts headers, harness, fuel pump or gas tank mods, etc)

I guess what I mean is,... I need "X" amount of money,... or I shouldn't even consider it.
I have looked at other swaps and between $5000-$6000 seems to be the going rate.

I and probably others would also be interested. I have been doing some research and pricing componenets but I am sure I am missing something. Great thread/project thanks for including us!

menace121978 · 10-25-2009, 11:09 AM

a few pages back he said it ended up being $4200-$4500 if im not mistaken. that was new tanks and everything.

he's also going to put a "book" together with part#'s and where to buy stuff too.

Manbearpig · 10-25-2009, 05:00 PM

Scrap yards around here want to much for gen3s

Local yard has a LQ4 with 85k on it for $3k

Thealien · 10-25-2009, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manbearpig

Scrap yards around here want to much for gen3s

Local yard has a LQ4 with 85k on it for $3k

Being the 6.0 there are less of them and they do get a premium (although I agree that is high). What are they asking for 5.3s?

Manbearpig · 10-26-2009, 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thealien

being the 6.0 there are less of them and they do get a premium (although i agree that is high). What are they asking for 5.3s?

~1800

djracer · 10-26-2009, 07:17 AM

That is way high!

Manbearpig · 10-26-2009, 08:14 AM

The last time I went looking for a 5.3 it had about 50k or so and must've been made of gold.

That LQ4 has gone down in price according to that places website.

It's $2k now

BUT there is a place about 35 miles away from me that has 2 LQ4's for 950

glock35ipsc · 10-26-2009, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nlped

Well, any updates Bob? Or are you just enjoying drivin' Fred?

LOL, I haven't been getting any email replies, so I had no idea there was this much chatter going on here!

Just been driving the snot out of him! When to Denver this weekend and the truck ran perfect. The condo we rented ended up being in a not-so-good part of town, about 3 blocks north of Mile High Stadium. So it dawned on me that there is probably no street thug that could steal this truck if I pulled the ignition fuses from the PCM fuse block. Cheap anti-theft device!

Oh, with the 3.42 rear, highway mileage is right at 20-21 mpg. I think I need to have the PCM tweaked as the truck shifts 1-2 and 2-3 real quick in town. As in, it is 3rd by the time I get to the other side of the intersection. I think that is what is keeping my in-town mileage down to around 17-18. I had been tinkering with the idea of putting the 2.73 back in to try to get maximum mpg, but I really like the way it drives right now. I might experiment with 3.08's or maybe even 3.23's just for grins. But I think once I get the PCM tweaked it will get better.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 67ChevyRedneck

Very cool! I really like it!

Thanks Jesse!

Quote:

Originally Posted by joe231

which 5.3 did you end up with?
gen III or gen IV?
iron block? LY5 or LMG
aluminum block? LH6 or LC9

honestly i did look back in the thread, but i couldn't find the answer....
just so you know, this thread has been torturing me since I don't have the scratch presently to do a 5.3 swap.......

LOL, sorry Joe! I got the average run of the mill 2006 Gen III LM7, 295hp & 325 ft/lbs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by lolife99

Glock,... I'd like to know a "realistic" dollar amount to do one of these swaps. (I know you found some good deals)
But for the average guy that needs to assemble all the parts and do the install from start to finish. (engine mounts headers, harness, fuel pump or gas tank mods, etc)

I guess what I mean is,... I need "X" amount of money,... or I shouldn't even consider it.
I have looked at other swaps and between $5000-$6000 seems to be the going rate.

Here is my post from quite a few pages back:

Quote:

Originally Posted by glock35ipsc

OK, here is the final damage so far.....

Just the basic parts needed to do the swap including the 37° flare tool and both new gas tanks was about $1479. So total with engine/trans package (w/shipping) is $3679.

When I add up ALL my receipts, which include things like the gas pedal and harness, paint, degreaser, solder, bulbs, bumper bolts (still haven't found them damn things!!), fuel hose and clamps, heater hoses, all the AN fittings and SS braided hose for the fuel system and trans cooler lines, gas tanks, complete fuel system, adapter plates and the gauge cluster, blah blah blah.... totals $1904, total swap price of $4104.

I am $396 under budget!!!

My engine and tranny cost me $2200 including shipping from California. I used the stock truck manifolds that came on the engine, also the stock 2006 upper and lower radiator hoses. I bought most all parts that I needed new, although I'm sure there are a few things that I could have bought used and saved some money. The most expense was in the fuel system. Two tanks, two fuel pumps, high PSI hose, high PSI switching valve, AN fittings, filter/regulator....all that added up quickly and was right in the neighborhood of $500 IIRC. Do this with just one tank, and that price drops dramatically! I budgeted $4500 to do this and came in under budget.

I haven't got a lot done on the "book". We have been really busy at work, and busy at home too now that momma's schedule changed and she now has weekends off for the first time in almost 10 years!!. It's coming though, just not real soon.

Thealien · 10-26-2009, 10:08 AM

Thanks for the update and costs. Pretty reasonable if you consider a crate engine in the neighborhood of $1500-2000 without intake or serpentine belt assy and about $1000 for a transmission and you still need sme wiring and fuel tank work its kind of in the same ballpark?!

How many hours do you think you have in it, or what do you think would be a good estimate for a first time installation?

If you do a book, put me in line I will happily buy one.

Who did you have do your computer?

HuggerCST · 10-26-2009, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glock35ipsc

with the 3.42 rear, highway mileage is right at 20-21 mpg.

Wow, that's great mileage Bob. If it would have gotten that kind of mileage when I had it, I'd still own it.

Thealien · 10-26-2009, 10:20 AM

Just got off the phone with a local wrecking yard. They can sell me a complete 5.3 with a 2WD (or 4WD) transmission, harness, DBW pedal assy, TAC and computer complete, shipped for $1500 with about 50K on the clock. I am having a hard time finding a reason not to do this?!

The only reason I would consider 2WD is I could install and get running while I rebuild the transfer case and can eventually afford to have a transmission rebuilt with an output shaft and adapter that would allow connection to my NP205.

10-13-2009, 10:11 AM	#1076
JohnC Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 7,461	Re: Glock's new project: "Fred" 8" Holy Cow! Yeah I know what you mean about the rain. It's been just drizzly here. Just enough that I can't get the last mowing done. Then also just enough to make work really slow.

10-13-2009, 10:13 AM	#1077
nlped Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Hayden, Al. Posts: 4,147	Re: Glock's new project: "Fred" ^^^ bingo!!!! __________________ Carter 1968 Chevy SWB Fleet... Walt 1963-1/2 Ford Falcon Futura...Martha

10-13-2009, 11:14 AM	#1078
68 TT Still plays with trucks Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 3,556	Re: Glock's new project: "Fred" The weather turned lousy here just in time for me to have to make three consecutive 300+ mile trips to the mountains for work the rest of this week. Record low temps and highs 20+ degrees below average. Global warming my butt. At least I have a comfortable and capable 4x4 to make the trips in.

10-13-2009, 03:43 PM	#1079
JohnC Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 7,461	Re: Glock's new project: "Fred" w/ 5.3L LS swap info Yeah my oldest daughter just moved to Portland. She called last night, and said it's cold here. I said "Welcome to the North"

10-14-2009, 04:25 PM	#1080
RJS2 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: No. Vernon, Indiana Posts: 9	Re: Glock's new project: "Fred" w/ 5.3L LS swap info Nice build What kind of mileage are you getting with the 3.42 rears now? Are you still planning on doing a write-up on the 5.3 installation?

10-14-2009, 09:31 PM	#1081
glock35ipsc Next project: 1970 K10 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Fort Collins, Colo 80524 Posts: 6,685	Re: Glock's new project: "Fred" w/ 5.3L LS swap info Haven't really been able to tell. To much heavy right foot part way through the first full tank, then it snowed 8" this weekend. It's dried up now so I will be driving him again, and I need to drive him tomorrow to take the bumper to my coworker. I'm sure it will be a couple weeks before I can get a good mileage figure. I'm slowly working on the FAQ. We've been super slammed at work, so I haven't been paying much attention to it for right now. __________________ *Bob* 1970 Chevy K10 LWB "Goldie" 350/TH350 *next project!!* 1981 Chevy C10 LWB 355/TH350 - My son's truck LS SWAP FORUM! Tons of LS swap info here! PLEASE CLICK HERE TO SUPPORT THE GREATEST BOARD ON THE NET! CLICK HERE FOR THE FAQ INDEX by KRUE

10-15-2009, 03:23 PM	#1082
69face Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: northridge Posts: 534	Re: Glock's new project: "Fred" w/ 5.3L LS swap info very awesome build! I read through it a couple of times and it is absolutely perfect. I am doing the swap in a friends truck next week. __________________ ""A bagged vehicle is only as good as it's wheel/tire combo!" -getlowness! my build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=223747:metal: I'M SO SO CAL!

10-23-2009, 08:01 AM	#1083
nlped Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Hayden, Al. Posts: 4,147	Re: Glock's new project: "Fred" w/ 5.3L LS swap info Well, any updates Bob? Or are you just enjoying drivin' Fred? __________________ Carter 1968 Chevy SWB Fleet... Walt 1963-1/2 Ford Falcon Futura...Martha

10-24-2009, 09:45 PM	#1084
67ChevyRedneck Hittin E-Z Street on Mud Tires Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 23,090	Re: Glock's new project: "Fred" w/ 5.3L LS swap info Very cool! I really like it! __________________ Jesse James 1967 C10 SWB Stepside: 350/700R4/3.73 1965 Ford Mustang: 289/T5-5spd/3.25 Trac-Loc 1968 Pontiac Firebird: Project Fire Chicken! 2015 Silverado Double Cab 5.3L Z71 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4.0L 5spd 2020 Chevrolet Equinox Premium 2.0L Turbo 2011 Mustang V6 ~ Wife's ride American Born, Country by the Grace of God 1967 CST Shop Truck Rebuild! My 1967 C-10 Build Thread My Vintage Air A/C Install Project "On a Dime" Trying my hand at Home Renovation! 1965 Mustang Modifications!

10-24-2009, 10:20 PM	#1085
joe231 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Palmer, Alaska Posts: 13,821	Re: Glock's new project: "Fred" w/ 5.3L LS swap info which 5.3 did you end up with? gen III or gen IV? iron block? LY5 or LMG aluminum block? LH6 or LC9 honestly i did look back in the thread, but i couldn't find the answer.... just so you know, this thread has been torturing me since I don't have the scratch presently to do a 5.3 swap....... __________________ *CHEVY ONLY*

10-24-2009, 10:38 PM	#1086
lolife99 67-72 parts collector,… Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 22,685	Re: Glock's new project: "Fred" w/ 5.3L LS swap info Glock,... I'd like to know a "realistic" dollar amount to do one of these swaps. (I know you found some good deals) But for the average guy that needs to assemble all the parts and do the install from start to finish. (engine mounts headers, harness, fuel pump or gas tank mods, etc) I guess what I mean is,... I need "X" amount of money,... or I shouldn't even consider it. I have looked at other swaps and between $5000-$6000 seems to be the going rate. __________________ Keith Convert to disc brakes. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=444823 Last edited by lolife99; 10-24-2009 at 10:39 PM.

10-25-2009, 12:02 AM	#1087
joe231 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Palmer, Alaska Posts: 13,821	Re: Glock's new project: "Fred" w/ 5.3L LS swap info I just found a 5.3 on OKC craigslist for $600 with all the accessories and the computer http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/pts/1406480140.html __________________ *CHEVY ONLY*

10-25-2009, 12:38 AM	#1088
menace121978 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: orangevale, ca Posts: 3,626	Re: Glock's new project: "Fred" w/ 5.3L LS swap info what ever Joe.... i look everyday and the best if any at all is $1500 over here. grab it while the grabbings good buddy... __________________ "Dennis the Menace" 1978 Silverado (2wd, 1/2 ton, short bed)complete nut & bolt frame off restomod LQ9/4L80E MY LS SWAP/FRAME OFF BUILD BOOK 2006 TBSS way too much to list

10-25-2009, 12:51 AM	#1089
joe231 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Palmer, Alaska Posts: 13,821	Re: Glock's new project: "Fred" w/ 5.3L LS swap info I wish I could grab it I found several around here for under $1000 one with trans for $1600... __________________ *CHEVY ONLY*

10-25-2009, 11:09 AM	#1091
menace121978 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: orangevale, ca Posts: 3,626	Re: Glock's new project: "Fred" w/ 5.3L LS swap info a few pages back he said it ended up being $4200-$4500 if im not mistaken. that was new tanks and everything. he's also going to put a "book" together with part#'s and where to buy stuff too. __________________ "Dennis the Menace" 1978 Silverado (2wd, 1/2 ton, short bed)complete nut & bolt frame off restomod LQ9/4L80E MY LS SWAP/FRAME OFF BUILD BOOK 2006 TBSS way too much to list



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10-25-2009, 05:00 PM	#1092
Manbearpig Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Midland, Tx Posts: 418	Re: Glock's new project: "Fred" w/ 5.3L LS swap info Scrap yards around here want to much for gen3s Local yard has a LQ4 with 85k on it for $3k __________________ 1972 GMC C10

10-26-2009, 07:17 AM	#1095
djracer Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Wetumpka, Al, U.S. Posts: 8,891	Re: Glock's new project: "Fred" w/ 5.3L LS swap info That is way high! __________________ Kevin Special Thanks to All who have helped on the TRUCK! My Pass Time Show http://s129.photobucket.com/albums/p...Chapter1-0.mp4 So Far my best Times are: Motor only: 6.44 1/8 @ 104.13 10.39 1/4 @ 125.83 Nitrous Times: 5.785 1/8 @ 118.65 with a 1.336 60ft 9.168 1/4 @ 142.58 with a 250 shot dead out of the hole!

10-26-2009, 08:14 AM	#1096
Manbearpig Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Midland, Tx Posts: 418	Re: Glock's new project: "Fred" w/ 5.3L LS swap info The last time I went looking for a 5.3 it had about 50k or so and must've been made of gold. That LQ4 has gone down in price according to that places website. It's $2k now BUT there is a place about 35 miles away from me that has 2 LQ4's for 950 __________________ 1972 GMC C10 Last edited by Manbearpig; 10-26-2009 at 08:15 AM.

10-26-2009, 10:08 AM	#1098
Thealien Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Pine Ridge Florida Posts: 4,120	Re: Glock's new project: "Fred" w/ 5.3L LS swap info Thanks for the update and costs. Pretty reasonable if you consider a crate engine in the neighborhood of $1500-2000 without intake or serpentine belt assy and about $1000 for a transmission and you still need sme wiring and fuel tank work its kind of in the same ballpark?! How many hours do you think you have in it, or what do you think would be a good estimate for a first time installation? If you do a book, put me in line I will happily buy one. Who did you have do your computer?

10-26-2009, 10:20 AM	#1100
Thealien Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Pine Ridge Florida Posts: 4,120	Re: Glock's new project: "Fred" w/ 5.3L LS swap info Just got off the phone with a local wrecking yard. They can sell me a complete 5.3 with a 2WD (or 4WD) transmission, harness, DBW pedal assy, TAC and computer complete, shipped for $1500 with about 50K on the clock. I am having a hard time finding a reason not to do this?! The only reason I would consider 2WD is I could install and get running while I rebuild the transfer case and can eventually afford to have a transmission rebuilt with an output shaft and adapter that would allow connection to my NP205.

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