Bearings and seals kit for SM465 and Rockwell 221 T/C? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

Patsfan34 · 01-18-2010, 06:14 PM

Does anyone know where the best place for me to find kits to rebuild my sm465 tranny and my Rockwell 221 T/C? Do I need to order this stuff from a GM dealer or are their aftermarket companies out there that make these kits?

Thanks

Mods, I realized I should've posted this here originally please delete my other thread on the engine and drivetrain forum.

lowe137 · 01-18-2010, 06:57 PM

i used these guys for sm465 parts... should call and see if he carries rockwell parts... they had good service and fast shipping...

Patsfan34 · 01-18-2010, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lowe137

i used these guys for sm465 parts...

The link didn't post, please repost. Thanks

renegade6 · 01-18-2010, 09:00 PM

I just rebuild my SM465 this weekend. Novak has a nice kit and a great set of instructions on doing the rebuild.

vectorit · 01-18-2010, 09:24 PM

http://www.novak-adapt.com/catalog/sm465_parts.htm

lowe137 · 01-19-2010, 12:29 PM

http://www.tbtrans.com/
oops guess i messed that one up... lol

Patsfan34 · 01-19-2010, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by renegade6

I just rebuild my SM465 this weekend. Novak has a nice kit and a great set of instructions on doing the rebuild.

How many hours did it take you?

renegade6 · 01-19-2010, 10:01 PM

About eight hours.

67gmcstepside · 02-07-2010, 01:25 PM

What "special" tools did the rebuild require?
Thanks

renegade6 · 02-07-2010, 06:06 PM

A bearing splitter, a puller with long arms and a hydraulic press.

67gmcstepside · 02-07-2010, 06:47 PM

Wow, maybe its worth having it done rather then myself.

THANKS!

renegade6 · 02-07-2010, 10:19 PM

You should be able to rent the tools at auto zone for free. The only reason that I needed the long puller was due to having a late model SM465 with a long output shaft.

brew8 · 02-08-2010, 07:53 PM

You can usually have a local transmission shop pull the old bearings and a press an Harbor Freight is not that expensive, check it out before to pay someone, that cost can scare you.

67gmcstepside · 02-08-2010, 09:06 PM

Yea, I see your point. Talked to a trans shop today. 400 for the rebuild and 200 for the parts. I might have to try to rebuild myself as you suggested. Thanks for the great input!!
Don

renegade6 · 02-08-2010, 11:09 PM

Novak sells rebuild kits that are pretty complete for around $150.00.

msgross · 02-09-2010, 10:46 AM

good info, thanks for the links guys...

$325 for the TC kit
http://www.drivetrain.com/parts_cata...l#ROCKWELLT221

Here is the rebuild manual
http://persh.org/images/65Pickup/T221%5B1%5D.pdf

rockauto.com also has a lot of the individual parts

67gmcstepside · 02-09-2010, 11:04 AM

Thanks Mike, Great info. If I remember correctly, you rebuilt your T221?

msgross · 02-09-2010, 11:11 AM

nope, didn't have the money so I just cleaned it up for now and will change the oil... If it has issues later on then i'll rebuild or replace with the NP205 that I have.

67gmcstepside · 02-09-2010, 11:13 AM

Honestly, I am going the same route. I have a spare T221 that came with the sm465. My focus is going to be on the 4sp.
Thanks,

01-18-2010, 06:14 PM	#1
Patsfan34 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New England Posts: 661	Bearings and seals kit for SM465 and Rockwell 221 T/C? Does anyone know where the best place for me to find kits to rebuild my sm465 tranny and my Rockwell 221 T/C? Do I need to order this stuff from a GM dealer or are their aftermarket companies out there that make these kits? Thanks Mods, I realized I should've posted this here originally please delete my other thread on the engine and drivetrain forum.

01-18-2010, 06:57 PM	#2
lowe137 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: cali Posts: 43	Re: Bearings and seals kit for SM465 and Rockwell 221 T/C? i used these guys for sm465 parts... should call and see if he carries rockwell parts... they had good service and fast shipping...

01-18-2010, 09:00 PM	#4
renegade6 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Texarkana, TX Posts: 443	Re: Bearings and seals kit for SM465 and Rockwell 221 T/C? I just rebuild my SM465 this weekend. Novak has a nice kit and a great set of instructions on doing the rebuild. __________________ Brandon 63 Biscayne https://www.pro-touring.com/threads/90718-63-Biscayne 57 Chevy Truck (sold)http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=321380 72 K20 Long bed stepside (wife's) 72 K20 Long bed 396 (flip or keep...?) The latest build: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...76#post8438476

01-18-2010, 09:24 PM	#5
vectorit What? Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Southern California Posts: 7,617	Re: Bearings and seals kit for SM465 and Rockwell 221 T/C? http://www.novak-adapt.com/catalog/sm465_parts.htm __________________ Chris 1968 K20 Suburban 1972 K10 LWB PU

01-19-2010, 12:29 PM	#6
lowe137 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: cali Posts: 43	Re: Bearings and seals kit for SM465 and Rockwell 221 T/C? http://www.tbtrans.com/ oops guess i messed that one up... lol

01-19-2010, 10:01 PM	#8
renegade6 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Texarkana, TX Posts: 443	Re: Bearings and seals kit for SM465 and Rockwell 221 T/C? About eight hours. __________________ Brandon 63 Biscayne https://www.pro-touring.com/threads/90718-63-Biscayne 57 Chevy Truck (sold)http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=321380 72 K20 Long bed stepside (wife's) 72 K20 Long bed 396 (flip or keep...?) The latest build: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...76#post8438476

02-07-2010, 01:25 PM	#9
67gmcstepside Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: jackson Posts: 676	Re: Bearings and seals kit for SM465 and Rockwell 221 T/C? What "special" tools did the rebuild require? Thanks Last edited by 67gmcstepside; 02-07-2010 at 01:25 PM.

02-07-2010, 06:06 PM	#10
renegade6 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Texarkana, TX Posts: 443	Re: Bearings and seals kit for SM465 and Rockwell 221 T/C? A bearing splitter, a puller with long arms and a hydraulic press. __________________ Brandon 63 Biscayne https://www.pro-touring.com/threads/90718-63-Biscayne 57 Chevy Truck (sold)http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=321380 72 K20 Long bed stepside (wife's) 72 K20 Long bed 396 (flip or keep...?) The latest build: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...76#post8438476

02-07-2010, 06:47 PM	#11
67gmcstepside Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: jackson Posts: 676	Re: Bearings and seals kit for SM465 and Rockwell 221 T/C? Wow, maybe its worth having it done rather then myself. THANKS!

02-07-2010, 10:19 PM	#12
renegade6 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Texarkana, TX Posts: 443	Re: Bearings and seals kit for SM465 and Rockwell 221 T/C? You should be able to rent the tools at auto zone for free. The only reason that I needed the long puller was due to having a late model SM465 with a long output shaft. __________________ Brandon 63 Biscayne https://www.pro-touring.com/threads/90718-63-Biscayne 57 Chevy Truck (sold)http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=321380 72 K20 Long bed stepside (wife's) 72 K20 Long bed 396 (flip or keep...?) The latest build: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...76#post8438476

02-08-2010, 07:53 PM	#13
brew8 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Billings, MT Posts: 130	Re: Bearings and seals kit for SM465 and Rockwell 221 T/C? You can usually have a local transmission shop pull the old bearings and a press an Harbor Freight is not that expensive, check it out before to pay someone, that cost can scare you.

02-08-2010, 09:06 PM	#14
67gmcstepside Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: jackson Posts: 676	Re: Bearings and seals kit for SM465 and Rockwell 221 T/C? Yea, I see your point. Talked to a trans shop today. 400 for the rebuild and 200 for the parts. I might have to try to rebuild myself as you suggested. Thanks for the great input!! Don

02-08-2010, 11:09 PM	#15
renegade6 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Texarkana, TX Posts: 443	Re: Bearings and seals kit for SM465 and Rockwell 221 T/C? Novak sells rebuild kits that are pretty complete for around $150.00. __________________ Brandon 63 Biscayne https://www.pro-touring.com/threads/90718-63-Biscayne 57 Chevy Truck (sold)http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=321380 72 K20 Long bed stepside (wife's) 72 K20 Long bed 396 (flip or keep...?) The latest build: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...76#post8438476

02-09-2010, 10:46 AM	#16
msgross Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Central PA Posts: 12,201	Re: Bearings and seals kit for SM465 and Rockwell 221 T/C? good info, thanks for the links guys... $325 for the TC kit http://www.drivetrain.com/parts_cata...l#ROCKWELLT221 Here is the rebuild manual http://persh.org/images/65Pickup/T221%5B1%5D.pdf rockauto.com also has a lot of the individual parts __________________ The Garage: 1968 K-10 SWB - "Project Money Pit" 1996 Z-71 - "huntin rig" 1969 C-10 LWB (SOLD) "Project flip that truck or else" 1993 Passport, F@rd 1-ton (SOLD)"Project Cousin Eddie" My Garage Build "The 1,000 footer" Last edited by msgross; 02-09-2010 at 10:49 AM.

02-09-2010, 11:04 AM	#17
67gmcstepside Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: jackson Posts: 676	Re: Bearings and seals kit for SM465 and Rockwell 221 T/C? Thanks Mike, Great info. If I remember correctly, you rebuilt your T221?



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02-09-2010, 11:11 AM	#18
msgross Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Central PA Posts: 12,201	Re: Bearings and seals kit for SM465 and Rockwell 221 T/C? nope, didn't have the money so I just cleaned it up for now and will change the oil... If it has issues later on then i'll rebuild or replace with the NP205 that I have. __________________ The Garage: 1968 K-10 SWB - "Project Money Pit" 1996 Z-71 - "huntin rig" 1969 C-10 LWB (SOLD) "Project flip that truck or else" 1993 Passport, F@rd 1-ton (SOLD)"Project Cousin Eddie" My Garage Build "The 1,000 footer"

02-09-2010, 11:13 AM	#19
67gmcstepside Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: jackson Posts: 676	Re: Bearings and seals kit for SM465 and Rockwell 221 T/C? Honestly, I am going the same route. I have a spare T221 that came with the sm465. My focus is going to be on the 4sp. Thanks,

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