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Old 03-10-2017, 05:24 PM   #1
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Rear tank but original filler

I have recently purchased a 63 C10 lwb stepside, and the seller moved the tank to the rear he put and put a chrome locking filler door in the rear fender well. I know there are plenty of threads about moving the tank, but I was wondering if anyone has experience with keeping the original filler, in the cab, to keep the original look or another option that would still look like it was from the period. It's purely cosmetic, but I don't like the look of the chrome locking door.
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Old 03-10-2017, 07:09 PM   #2
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Re: Rear tank but original filler

I haven't come across anyone who has done it, though not to say it can't be done. You'd just have a lot of pipe to run to go from the filler all the way to the tank. Not sure if there are any hazards that creates or not though.
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Old 03-10-2017, 09:46 PM   #3
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Re: Rear tank but original filler

I would find a fuel door off a late model truck and put the into the fender. That one on your truck does look out of place. When I moved my tank I made a dummy cap and filler out of a chunk of 3" aluminum in the lathe. Looks like a real cap but no chance of any one ever putting gas in it.
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Old 03-11-2017, 11:18 AM   #4
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Re: Rear tank but original filler

I kept the original filler neck and cap in my cab for an original look. I cut down a new rubber neck-to-tank transition and clamped it on the inside of the cab to keep the neck from sliding in and out - although the new cab gasket was really tight.



I also did this on my '63 Chevy II.

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Old 03-11-2017, 12:46 PM   #5
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Re: Rear tank but original filler

If you try to route a hose all the way from the stock filler to the rear tank you will run into the problem of our trucks having lots of frame flex. If you're driving your truck on a bumpy road and look back at your bed you will find that it moves side to side a lot more than the cab. Even if you do use flexible rubber hose for the bed to cab connection I would still be worried about it getting cut or torn from the bed moving so much, this flex is the reason our trucks could never be unibodys. I would say just find a more era correct cap for the rear tank and be done with it.
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Old 03-11-2017, 12:56 PM   #6
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Re: Rear tank but original filler

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I would find a fuel door off a late model truck and put the into the fender. That one on your truck does look out of place. When I moved my tank I made a dummy cap and filler out of a chunk of 3" aluminum in the lathe. Looks like a real cap but no chance of any one ever putting gas in it.
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I'm gonna basically do the same thing as vin63 and PGSigns. I'm using the original short filler tube that the cap attaches to and let the rubber grommet hold the tube and cap assembly in place. The grommet holds it pretty tight; don't think there will a problem. I might use a hose clamp around the tube behind the grommet just in case and also cap off the interior end of the tube.

I patched in a square filler door assembly from a 70's truck for the bed side. I think it will look factory. I did have to notch the bed wood and interior bed side to allow the filler tube to align with the filler port and tank. I'll fab a rounded 45 degree cover to place over the tube. See the circled area in the pic. (It wasn't notched at that point in time.)
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Re: Rear tank but original filler

I did this but then again it is not a stepside. It is just mocked up for now. I am going to make it flush with the bed wood and make it seamless. Lets say I am taking it for a test drive.
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I did this but then again it is not a stepside. It is just mocked up for now. I am going to make it flush with the bed wood and make it seamless. Lets say I am taking it for a test drive.
Ah, I didn't catch that BigRed has a stepside. My style door might not fit the curve of the fender very well.
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Re: Rear tank but original filler

I interpreted the OP's question as what I did for original aesthetics (for a non-functional filler neck and cap)...not to use the original filler neck and route a filler hose from the cab to rear of the bed.

The original cap and filler neck was also non-functional on my '63 Chevy II Super Gas car (I had to run a fuel cell). I cut down the original filler neck nearly flush with the backside of the rear quarter panel and welded the bolt-in flange to the neck to keep it place since I was running such a tall tire.



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If you try to route a hose all the way from the stock filler to the rear tank you will run into the problem of our trucks having lots of frame flex. If you're driving your truck on a bumpy road and look back at your bed you will find that it moves side to side a lot more than the cab. Even if you do use flexible rubber hose for the bed to cab connection I would still be worried about it getting cut or torn from the bed moving so much, this flex is the reason our trucks could never be unibodys. I would say just find a more era correct cap for the rear tank and be done with it.
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Re: Rear tank but original filler

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I interpreted the OP's question as what I did for original aesthetics (for a non-functional filler neck and cap)...not to use the original filler neck and route a filler hose from the cab to rear of the bed.

The original cap and filler neck was also non-functional on my '63 Chevy II Super Gas car (I had to run a fuel cell). I cut down the original filler neck nearly flush with the backside of the rear quarter panel and welded the bolt-in flange to the neck to keep it place since I was running such a tall tire.
Ahaha you are correct, I guess I wasn't paying close enough attention. Originally I was wanting to do something similar to what you did with having the original filler cap just for looks, but the chrome wasn't in the best shape so I just welded a patch in the hole. Looks pretty clean IMO
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Re: Rear tank but original filler

Thank you guys for all the ideas, I still have time before I tackle this but I think I'll probably go with what the majority is saying, using a dummy filler and a more era appropriate filler door in the back
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Old 03-11-2017, 10:00 PM   #12
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Re: Rear tank but original filler

Has anyone ever used a filler like an a-body? Filler behind fold down license plate?

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Re: Rear tank but original filler

Problem with the filler behind the plate is it wont be above the top of the tank.
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Yea, probably right. There's not much rise on the a bodies, but would probably have to hang down pretty low to get enough on the trucks.

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I have recently purchased a 63 C10 lwb stepside, and the seller moved the tank to the rear he put and put a chrome locking filler door in the rear fender well. I know there are plenty of threads about moving the tank, but I was wondering if anyone has experience with keeping the original filler, in the cab, to keep the original look or another option that would still look like it was from the period. It's purely cosmetic, but I don't like the look of the chrome locking door.
Cut complete filler-door assy. from donor and graft into fender?--
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I have recently purchased a 63 C10 lwb stepside, and the seller moved the tank to the rear he put and put a chrome locking filler door in the rear fender well. I know there are plenty of threads about moving the tank, but I was wondering if anyone has experience with keeping the original filler, in the cab, to keep the original look or another option that would still look like it was from the period. It's purely cosmetic, but I don't like the look of the chrome locking door.
...and after completed...not trying to persuade you, but just food for thought.
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That's perfect. What was the donor?
I've thought that a '60-'66 Suburban door would be right.

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Re: Rear tank but original filler

They do work well on a fleetside as long as you don't have the Custom Cab side trim. With the trim, the lower piece goes across the filler door. That can be dealt with, but it will be a bit of work.

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I've thought that a '60-'66 Suburban door would be right.

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Re: Rear tank but original filler

I was going to put the fuel door on the fender, wanted to soooo bad. But after $24,000.00 in body shop payments (I'm beat down) I'm now going with the ubiquitous bed fill.
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