Blood Sweat and Tears.. 67 Build Thread

[Possmguts]

Thanks guys I appreciated the kind words... That thing was starting to become a PITA to me...

My wife just let me know I now have 5 big poxes of parts sitting in the living room waiting on me to get home this weekend...

Gonna be getting started on the custom front roll pan next. I bought a front valance and lower front spoiler for a 69 Camaro along with a roll pan for the truck... Ill be using the areas for the fog lights off the Camaro valance and maybe some of the detail that will make the spoiler fit on the truck roll pan...

Also got the new grille and a shorter radiator that I should be able to work with to get that damn hood closed

[Possmguts]

Well so much for getting anything done... the most important ingredient in the custom roll pan has been sitting in Illinois for 4 days... the roll pan....

[flashed]

Those look good ,I bet Grumpy can help you out .

[Advanced Design]

Yep, the bees knees for sure. Do you have a link to the interior pieces?

[Possmguts]

Originally Posted by Advanced Design

Yep, the bees knees for sure. Do you have a link to the interior pieces?

Why yes... yes I do sir...
They're at Classic Industries and are pretty pricey so beware... I'll be building a center console so I will be looking to get it done to match. Those door panels and that dash cover/pad is just too cool... They offer several styles and different color stitching.
http://promo2.classicindustries.com/...607.1461075550

[RRR18]

Them seats look pretty damn cool.

[Advanced Design]

Thanks, yeah they are a little salty, though not bad considering my 48 truck seat was $800 to have redone and I did all the restoration on the seat frame. Save a ton of time to use these. Pretty sure Tre5 used them on one of his builds here.

[Possmguts]

Got to come home for the night and my front roll pan was here, so I went out and held it in place only to find that I have to cut a few inches off the frame horns to be able to use it?? WTH? No wonder the one that the PO had made for it looked so goofy.

Now Im not sure about this. Gonna have to think about it I guess...

[Possmguts]

Well today has been frustrating to say the least... After cutting the frame horns off this is how it went... This is a 2 piece roll pan. It was basically a long piece that was rolled to somewhat match the contour of the lower fenders and then cut in 2... the problem is that it does not follow the long lazy contour of the lower grille. When the 2 pieces are cut to come together at the center it comes to more of a point and I'm having trouble with figuring what to do..

Should I make the lower grille match the roll pan or do I try to make the roll pan match the contour of the grill?? If you look straight down and look at how the shape matches the shape of the front of the hood it says that I need to make the roll pan match the grill. But with a rolled piece of metal, how do you get it to have a radius opposing the rolled radius?

It really hard to see what I'm talking about in the pics I suppose...

[Advanced Design]

Possm, I would make the roll pan fit the grill. Guessing it was two pieces joined at the center. Since it sticks forward there, can you split it again and take off enough material in the center so when you join them back together the center moves rearward? That should bring the edges of the roll pan and grill into alignment. Sneak up on the trimming so you don't remove too much and end up with the center too far rearward.

Hope that makes sense.

[Possmguts]

Originally Posted by Advanced Design

Possm, I would make the roll pan fit the grill. Guessing it was two pieces joined at the center. Since it sticks forward there, can you split it again and take off enough material in the center so when you join them back together the center moves rearward? That should bring the edges of the roll pan and grill into alignment. Sneak up on the trimming so you don't remove too much and end up with the center too far rearward.

Hope that makes sense.

But how would I get it to follow the grill contour when its rolled? I would have to make several cuts to get the face to push back and not change the roll right?
I did this to show how the roll pan (black lines) is straight and the grille (red line) has a lazy curve to it... if that helps

Since the hood and the area of the grille that the trim goes on comes to more of a point I was thinking maybe I should make the grill at the bottom work with the roll pan... maybe... whats you thoughts?

[Advanced Design]

Ah, sorry Possm, shame on me. I was focusing only on the distance the roll pan was sticking forward and not on the contour of the grill bottom. Getting the roll pan to match that contour would be pretty challenging.

You have a good point about the hood and upper grill coming to a point. Matching the grill to the roll pan would be simpler, plus match what is above it.

[Possmguts]

Originally Posted by Advanced Design

Ah, sorry Possm, shame on me. I was focusing only on the distance the roll pan was sticking forward and not on the contour of the grill bottom. Getting the roll pan to match that contour would be pretty challenging.

You have a good point about the hood and upper grill coming to a point. Matching the grill to the roll pan would be simpler, plus match what is above it.

Those aint the best pics either... The lighting out there is horrible. I was holding the work light up to get the pics. Its a problem I really should do something about...

The thing about the pan is that I didnt even realize they have a full curved one out there and when I seen the 2 piece one I just clicked the Buy Now button like a dummy.

[Possmguts]

Well... that was a total waste of time and money... Not sure i can fix the blunder I made today. May have to cut that roll pan loose and order another one. Trying to fit those damn Camaro parking lights was a disaster.... I guess i should have done that part before making the grille fit the point in the center.

[jlsanborn]

Look through Vic's CRLS build and you'll see him using a tool like this....

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/too...FVFlfgodIdYGmQ

Did you modify the grill?

[Possmguts]

Originally Posted by jlsanborn

Look through Vic's CRLS build and you'll see him using a tool like this....

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/too...FVFlfgodIdYGmQ

Did you modify the grill?

Yeah I made the grill fit the roll pan if thats what you mean... I actually just bought something similar to that tool that works on the air hammer ... haven't tried it out yet though

[Advanced Design]

Too bad about the light install issue. And it can probably be fixed, it's only metal. Any pic's?

[Possmguts]

Originally Posted by Advanced Design

Too bad about the light install issue. And it can probably be fixed, it's only metal. Any pic's?

Yeah I have a couple... of what I have ended up with after patching the big hole I had cut in it... I just couldn't get the light areas I had from the Camaro to match the radius of the trucks roll pan... it just wasn't meant to be. Maybe Ill find something else that will work and try again later. I really hate using up my limited time on wasted attempts... At least the roll pan is on and the grille matched it now. Just gotta do the finish work... BUT I'm not exactly happy about the center seam of the pan and may end up cutting it apart and reworking that before I can wrap it up.

And the way I ended up only welding the pan to the grille and then welded sides onto the pan to allow bolts into the fenders will allow removal of fenders if something ever happens... or removal of just the grill and pan as one unit.

On another note, I picked up this handy little attachment for the air hammer the other day when I stopped by Summit Racing for crimping edges of patch panels so that I can stop having to but weld everything... Works really nice and was only like 35 bucks.

[flashed]

I think the rollpan turned out nice and the panel crimper looks good too.

[Advanced Design]

Roll pan is a keeper!

[lower50's]

I hope the roll pan is going to work out the way you want. That is a neat tool.

[jlsanborn]

Look at this page on Vic's build....

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...shrink&page=15

Never used one but I think it's what you're looking for.

Please don't abandon the fog lights! I really considered the same thing you're thinking, just doesn't fit my build as well as it would yours! Is there something out there that you could graft in?

[swamp rat]

I wish i would have known about that crimper attachment as i have the air hammer already, looks like it works ok!

[swamp rat]

Now that i have had a better chance to read your thread, the shrinker is not a crimper like you have, Youtube has some great tips on shrinkers and stretchers, this guy is pretty good, watch what he does with the shrinker:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aD0KsVmHc-w

[Possmguts]

Originally Posted by swamp rat

Now that i have had a better chance to read your thread, the shrinker is not a crimper like you have, Youtube has some great tips on shrinkers and stretchers, this guy is pretty good, watch what he does with the shrinker:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aD0KsVmHc-w

That guy seams like he knows what hes doing for sure... I always wanted to learn how to do that stuff and be able to make some neat stuff. Maybe when I grow up lol

Originally Posted by swamp rat

I wish i would have known about that crimper attachment as i have the air hammer already, looks like it works ok!

Its actually very handy... and with a little practice it works great with very little effort. Wish I had bought it before all the other patching I did.

Originally Posted by jlsanborn

Look at this page on Vic's build....

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...shrink&page=15

Never used one but I think it's what you're looking for.

Please don't abandon the fog lights! I really considered the same thing you're thinking, just doesn't fit my build as well as it would yours! Is there something out there that you could graft in?

Aw man... I have GOT to get me some of these metal working tools and start learning... So much I could do with the right tools. That hood might just get redone in the future If I get a hold of these tools... I actually am thinking of doing some of the same scoops as the hood on a smooth tailgate but not as deep and with no openings.... just as a detail to match.... maybe