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Old 03-12-2014, 08:07 PM   #1
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Re: Project "What was I Thinking" 68 SWB

Keith, I'm liking the red idea also. As far as the paint, I would do base coat/ clear coat instead of single stage. The clear is a whole lot easier to fix any imperfections you might have. You can always cut and buff to achieve a nice looking shine and your paint will lay smooth with no orange peel. If you get any dust or runs in the clear they can be buffed out also. You won't have any trouble with the base coat especially since it won't be a pearl or metallic color.
( that's just my opinion, and you know the old saying)
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I used bc/cc on my truck because everyone told me it was much easier to work with. And also because the med gold has a bit of metallic in it. While it does have its advantages, I just finished my CJ7 with single stage, and found it to be easier. I was able to cut and buff the jeep to a mirror finish that is slightly better than my truck. I will probably be using single stage for solid, non metallic colors on future projects. Now keep in mind that I am truely a novice, and don't have a fraction of the knowledge that others on this forum do. Im just sharing my personal experience. Maybe paint a couple test panels with each, and see what works best for you. Again, this is just my .02. Im not trying to tell anyone that they are wrong.
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Keith, I'm liking the red idea also. As far as the paint, I would do base coat/ clear coat instead of single stage. The clear is a whole lot easier to fix any imperfections you might have. You can always cut and buff to achieve a nice looking shine and your paint will lay smooth with no orange peel. If you get any dust or runs in the clear they can be buffed out also. You won't have any trouble with the base coat especially since it won't be a pearl or metallic color.
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Thanks Jason I definitely appreciate your opinion, I just hope my paint can be half as nice as yours is.

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I used bc/cc on my truck because everyone told me it was much easier to work with. And also because the med gold has a bit of metallic in it. While it does have its advantages, I just finished my CJ7 with single stage, and found it to be easier. I was able to cut and buff the jeep to a mirror finish that is slightly better than my truck. I will probably be using single stage for solid, non metallic colors on future projects. Now keep in mind that I am truely a novice, and don't have a fraction of the knowledge that others on this forum do. Im just sharing my personal experience. Maybe paint a couple test panels with each, and see what works best for you. Again, this is just my .02. Im not trying to tell anyone that they are wrong.
Your jeep looks great, I might give your suggestion a try to see how it works.
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Old 03-13-2014, 09:50 PM   #4
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Re: Project "What was I Thinking" 68 SWB

That rendering is nearly identical to my idea for my last truck. Clean, simple and red. I'm sticking with the red on my stepper but going with white trim instead of chrome. Definitely RED!!!
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Old 03-14-2014, 08:14 AM   #5
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That rendering is nearly identical to my idea for my last truck. Clean, simple and red. I'm sticking with the red on my stepper but going with white trim instead of chrome. Definitely RED!!!
Thanks man I like your plans with the white bumpers and trim. Red just looks so good on these trucks or any vehicle for that matter, I guess that's why it's called resale red
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Old 03-18-2014, 07:51 PM   #6
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I finished reading your build thread today and you weren't kidding about changing your mind . Your truck looks great and you're on the home stretch now. I agree with most the others and say go with the trim. All you you guys with these complete frame off builds makes me want to go back and do mine right or build a chassis and swap everything over.
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I finished reading your build thread today and you weren't kidding about changing your mind . Your truck looks great and you're on the home stretch now. I agree with most the others and say go with the trim. All you you guys with these complete frame off builds makes me want to go back and do mine right or build a chassis and swap everything over.
Thanks man, I tried to warn you as you read me say before, I will never do another frame off. If I was you, build another chassis and then swap your body and drivetrain on to it when your ready. This way your truck is on the road the whole time and you can still enjoy it. I have been without my truck for so long that it is almost becoming pointless now. It would be fine if I had another hotrod to take out on the weekends and do some shows and cruises.
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Old 03-19-2014, 12:33 PM   #8
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Only if you don't tear the other hotrod apart at the same time... Ask me how I know.

It will all be worth it in the end. Just stick with it and you'll get there. It's looking good so far!
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Old 03-19-2014, 03:49 PM   #9
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Re: Project "What was I Thinking" 68 SWB

crawdadfox gave me the same advice. I have an extra swb frame but I can't bring myself to build it and then swap my sheet metal over to it. I just think that if you can keep the cab, frame, and SPID numbers matching the truck is worth more valuable.
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crawdadfox gave me the same advice. I have an extra swb frame but I can't bring myself to build it and then swap my sheet metal over to it. I just think that if you can keep the cab, frame, and SPID numbers matching the truck is worth more valuable.
I would have to disagree a little here. IF the project's end result would consist of the frame being uncut, unmolested, and in original form... then I would agree that it could have more value with its original frame. BUT... once you cut the frame, that value disappears.

The true value in building a frame then swapping sheetmetal comes from all the time saved, and the ability to enjoy the truck without having it torn down and out of commission for an extended period of time... especially with a substantial suspension overhaul.

I would build the spare frame and then swap the body over.... that's just me.

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Dang you Nate Porter!! Must be my MILD case of OCD...
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Dang you Nate Porter!! Must be my MILD case of OCD...
I suffer from a bit of OCD and even more of HyperFocus..... trust me when I tell you that building the spare frame and swapping it over will be much more therapeutic and enjoyable. If you already have the spare frame, then there's no excuse.

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To me by doing the spare frame and swapping sheetmetal you always have the original matching frame to go back to if you ever wanted to
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I haven't got as much done over the past couple of weeks as I would have liked but I did manage to get the bed on and laid out on the garage floor
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I haven't got as much done over the past couple of weeks as I would have liked but I did manage to get the bed on and laid out on the garage floor
Keith, your truck is coming along great. That is a sweet pic of your truck laid out. Awesome work.
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Keith, your truck is coming along great. That is a sweet pic of your truck laid out. Awesome work.
Thanks, your making some really nice progress on yours too
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A spare for me wouldn't be anything close to stock anyway. It would have a few cuts and welds and hopefully coilovers on all four corners
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I would love the spare frame idea, that way I could go back to stock if I wanted with the original frame.

Some words of caution though... I've heard stories (read: may not be true) about guys who couldn't register their vehicle without the original frame (numbers had to match the cab and frame). I can't remember which state that was and I've never run into this myself but you might want to look into your local rules before spending a ton of money on a spare frame. You know, just in case.
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Well I haven't got much done over the past 2 weeks but I have been collecting some parts. I picked up captain fabs booster bracket along with the hydroboost plate. I decided that I'm going to run hydroboost so that I don't have any problems with my camshaft not producing enough vacuum for my brakes. I thought about just running manual brakes but decided the hydroboost would be the best option for me.
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Well I haven't got much done over the past 2 weeks but I have been collecting some parts. I picked up captain fabs booster bracket along with the hydroboost plate. I decided that I'm going to run hydroboost so that I don't have any problems with my camshaft not producing enough vacuum for my brakes. I thought about just running manual brakes but decided the hydroboost would be the best option for me.
I agree with you there keith.

Hope to do a hydroboost in my c10 soon.
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Please post details and specs on your hydroboost set up when you get going on it. I've been kicking around the idea also between manual/hydroboost
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I agree with you there keith.

Hope to do a hydroboost in my c10 soon.
Thanks Tom, I have been wanting to give it a try and since a lot of modern vehicles run Hydroboost I figured it should work nicely on my old truck

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No problem buddy, might be a while before I get to the actual install though, just collecting parts now. If you have a big cam in your big block like I have your going to be in the same situation as me, too much cam and not enough vacuum for brakes
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That looks awesome Keith!
Thanks Scott, I also managed to clean all the dust off my engine and put my 454 logo plates on the valve covers.
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