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**CC69Rat** · 12-03-2013, 08:57 AM

I have a long time friend that owns a Chevy restoration store. That's where I was getting the three-spoke steering wheels a while back. Just out of curiosity I called him and found he can get ADM bedsides. I think this is a company called 'American Direct Metal' (?) Something like that.. you guys ever heard of them?

He said they were as good or better than OEM. I can get both bedsides, out the door for $1,000. Just looking for experience with ADM ? Or it might be AMD ..

I have ordered the rear panel and cross sills from Mar-K. Still looking for a good wood floor front bed panel.

I appreciate all the encouragement fellas. I have been in a fog for the past few months no doubt. Done and said some bonehead stuff, some days are better than others. One thing I do miss is time with my old man. Once the weather clears up I'm planning to hit this truck pretty hard. It has been sitting for way too long.

**lolife99** · 12-03-2013, 09:05 AM

Chad,... it's Auto Metal Direct.
https://www.autometaldirect.com/

I've heard lots of good things about them from the Mopar guys.
I know a guy that restores Mopars and this is what he's been using for the the last few years.
I don't know anything about the fit of the GM panels.

I this is about the only way to build a quality shortbed anymore, short of finding good NOS panels.

Bennett68C10 · 12-03-2013, 09:25 AM

My front fenders are from Auto Metal Direct and they are Tri-Plus. I can say the fit is pretty much spot on. Only needed a little hammering on the flanges where the front grill mounts to fit right, overall very impressed. When I spoke to AMD they stated that they carry Tri-Plus panels, so I would bet the bedsides are Tri-Plus.

Johnnyfever · 12-03-2013, 09:48 AM

Auto Metal Direct! I stop by to pick up parts a lot since they are in Buford, GA. Great guys up there - I usually talk to Jeff when I'm up there. Great parts and their stock keeps growing so much that they had to get rid of the classic car showroom....bittersweet I guess.

**CC69Rat** · 12-03-2013, 11:38 AM

Ok, .. done deal. I had considered SoKy before, then had some issues getting the $ together and had to hold off .. but I'll just go this route.

Next question. I'm considering 20x12, and putting a 2" (?) band in factory wheel tubs. For the most part on a factory wood floor the boards that wrap around the wheel wells I would just offset it back what .. 2" or so? and make that inner edge of the wheel well even with the edge of the frame rail. I'm sure it has been done before do you guys know of a write up on it ? Pics ? The second board from the outer edge of the bedside would just be cut off like the first one and the wheel tub moved over to mount on the third board instead. I guess I'm explaining it right ..

335/40/20? How much tire can you get on a 12 ? Thanks.

**lolife99** · 12-03-2013, 12:36 PM

The worst part about a 12" wide wheel is finding a tire that fits.
I'm not sure if anyone make a 40 series 335.
Here's a 30 series at $551 each!
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....=yes&tab=Specs

Bennett68C10 · 12-03-2013, 04:38 PM

Like Keith said trying to find a tire for a 12" wheel is hard. Seems like most people either run a 315/35/20 or step up to the Mickey Thompson SR. Check out hart_rob's 68. I think he is running a 31x16 on a 20x12. I'm pretty sure bowtie468 is running the same.

I'm still planning on going with Soky Classics for my bed because they make the custom bedsides with no side markers lights or stake pocket holes.

aggie91 · 12-03-2013, 04:38 PM

Here is a 345/30/20 that will work on a 12" rim...a little less expensive at $485 each...

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....=yes&tab=Specs

**CC69Rat** · 12-03-2013, 11:43 PM

.. may just stick with a 20x10..

. I have the early housing so the wheels will 'look' plenty wide. I did some research earlier and I don't see paying $500 a tire.

22x12 ?.. humm.

Bennett68C10 · 12-04-2013, 06:23 AM

If you did a 20x12 on a 315/35/20 it wouldn't cost you $500 per tire. You can get the Toyo ST II for around $200. Might not give you the sidewall height you are looking for though. I also discovered yesterday that they no longer make the 31x16x20 Mickey Thompsons any more, only the 31x18x20.

**CC69Rat** · 12-04-2013, 08:45 AM

Just thinking a 315 might be stretched a little on a 12" wheel. I haven't seen one mounted up though. Some people like the stretched look though.. I'll check it out and see.

**nlped** · 12-04-2013, 11:13 AM

Here's a camaro with a 20x12 forgeline on the rear... Looks mighty sexy to me

Bennett68C10 · 12-04-2013, 11:48 AM

This is painterd's old truck with 315's on a 20x12, looks pretty good to me.

**CC69Rat** · 12-04-2013, 01:16 PM

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/mtt-6620/overview/

Is there a link to one of the trucks running this tire ? Do you have to narrow the frame rails or will it fit just by widening the tubs ?

**CC69Rat** · 12-04-2013, 01:17 PM

Nm, found the thread. ..

rwade · 12-04-2013, 05:54 PM

I'm running a 14" wide rim with factory frame (with step notch) and they fit. You should have no problem with a 12"

Wade

**CC69Rat** · 12-06-2013, 05:22 PM

Looking a little more at the tires, what are you guys thoughts on running the SRs on the back with STIIs up front ? The tread pattern is pretty close. I know you have seen both tires, but just to see them side by side ..

darkhorse970 · 12-06-2013, 05:24 PM

I think they would look good together. What sizes are you thinking?

**CC69Rat** · 12-06-2013, 05:32 PM

29x16 - 20x12
255/45/20 - 20x8.5

Both tires would be right at 4.5" sidewall height. Maybe drop to a 255/40 on the front I just worry about potholes. (4" sidewall)

I had 255/45 on the front of the last one I setup and I liked it. I wish they made a 30x16 in that SR tire. Chris is running 31x16 but the tires were discontinued, Im under the impression those might be a bit big on his truck though. 30x16 would be perfect. I may just go with a 20x10 and STII on the rear. We'll see how it plays out. You guys were right, tires are tough for a 20x12.

I'm considering narrowing the rear housing a little I have been working with Chris on his setup.

knomadd · 12-06-2013, 05:35 PM

They look pretty close. I think they'd look pretty good.

I like your new avatar.

**cericd** · 12-06-2013, 05:45 PM

Sweet new avatar. Let me guess.. Pops? He's got some skills.

darkhorse970 · 12-06-2013, 06:01 PM

I'm trying to make the same tire/wheel size decisions, Chris' looks awesome to me. Wish MT still made that size!

Rusbuilt · 12-06-2013, 08:23 PM

Chad have I missed the actual wheel selection?

**CC69Rat** · 12-06-2013, 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cericd

Sweet new avatar. Let me guess.. Pops? He's got some skills.

Thanks man. Dad sent that to me today. I really like it

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusbuilt

Chad have I missed the actual wheel selection?

Raceline Static 5, more than likely. I know I said I wouldn't do billets again .. but. ..

I have some serious overtime coming in the next few months and my awesome wife told me I could put every dime on my truck. It could get interesting.

**jkeating1** · 12-07-2013, 12:17 PM

back in post #91 from a couple of years ago, the last picture has a sheet taped to the passenger door that looks like a build sheet, or checklist of sorts, that I'm guessing is your to-do, or status sheet? If that's what it is, would you please post an example of it. I imagine I could improve my efficiency some if I adopted a better time management process!

12-03-2013, 08:57 AM	#401
CC69Rat Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Chattanooga TN Posts: 6,205	Re: 1969 C10 SWB - Big Block project I have a long time friend that owns a Chevy restoration store. That's where I was getting the three-spoke steering wheels a while back. Just out of curiosity I called him and found he can get ADM bedsides. I think this is a company called 'American Direct Metal' (?) Something like that.. you guys ever heard of them? He said they were as good or better than OEM. I can get both bedsides, out the door for $1,000. Just looking for experience with ADM ? Or it might be AMD .. I have ordered the rear panel and cross sills from Mar-K. Still looking for a good wood floor front bed panel. I appreciate all the encouragement fellas. I have been in a fog for the past few months no doubt. Done and said some bonehead stuff, some days are better than others. One thing I do miss is time with my old man. Once the weather clears up I'm planning to hit this truck pretty hard. It has been sitting for way too long. __________________ Chad 1967 C10 SWB - Project Savannah - 6.0/4L80 Currently underway 1968 C10 SWB - TOTY 2018, 50th Anniversary Tribute Project * Sold * Pride and Joy 1986 Silverado Short Fleet - Scarlet Sold 1985 Silverado Short Fleet Sold 2022 Jeep Gladiator Mojave 2001 Jeep Cherokee XJ 4x4 - Lifted, Built 1992 Jeep Cherokee XJ 4x4 - Lifted 2013 Honda Accord EX-L v6 Coupe 6spd (wife's ride)

12-03-2013, 09:05 AM	#402
lolife99 67-72 parts collector,… Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 22,683	Re: 1969 C10 SWB - Big Block project Chad,... it's Auto Metal Direct. https://www.autometaldirect.com/ I've heard lots of good things about them from the Mopar guys. I know a guy that restores Mopars and this is what he's been using for the the last few years. I don't know anything about the fit of the GM panels. I this is about the only way to build a quality shortbed anymore, short of finding good NOS panels. __________________ Keith Convert to disc brakes. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=444823

12-03-2013, 09:25 AM	#403
Bennett68C10 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Toms River, NJ Posts: 5,518	Re: 1969 C10 SWB - Big Block project My front fenders are from Auto Metal Direct and they are Tri-Plus. I can say the fit is pretty much spot on. Only needed a little hammering on the flanges where the front grill mounts to fit right, overall very impressed. When I spoke to AMD they stated that they carry Tri-Plus panels, so I would bet the bedsides are Tri-Plus. __________________ Keith 66 Suburban Burb Build Thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=751361 IG: bennett68c10

12-03-2013, 09:48 AM	#404
Johnnyfever Registered User Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Belton, SC & Atlanta, GA Posts: 181	Re: 1969 C10 SWB - Big Block project Auto Metal Direct! I stop by to pick up parts a lot since they are in Buford, GA. Great guys up there - I usually talk to Jeff when I'm up there. Great parts and their stock keeps growing so much that they had to get rid of the classic car showroom....bittersweet I guess. __________________ Yes, it's a Short Wheel Base, not a Short Wide Bed.

12-03-2013, 11:38 AM	#405
CC69Rat Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Chattanooga TN Posts: 6,205	Re: 1969 C10 SWB - Big Block project Ok, .. done deal. I had considered SoKy before, then had some issues getting the $ together and had to hold off .. but I'll just go this route. Next question. I'm considering 20x12, and putting a 2" (?) band in factory wheel tubs. For the most part on a factory wood floor the boards that wrap around the wheel wells I would just offset it back what .. 2" or so? and make that inner edge of the wheel well even with the edge of the frame rail. I'm sure it has been done before do you guys know of a write up on it ? Pics ? The second board from the outer edge of the bedside would just be cut off like the first one and the wheel tub moved over to mount on the third board instead. I guess I'm explaining it right .. 335/40/20? How much tire can you get on a 12 ? Thanks. __________________ Chad 1967 C10 SWB - Project Savannah - 6.0/4L80 Currently underway 1968 C10 SWB - TOTY 2018, 50th Anniversary Tribute Project * Sold * Pride and Joy 1986 Silverado Short Fleet - Scarlet Sold 1985 Silverado Short Fleet Sold 2022 Jeep Gladiator Mojave 2001 Jeep Cherokee XJ 4x4 - Lifted, Built 1992 Jeep Cherokee XJ 4x4 - Lifted 2013 Honda Accord EX-L v6 Coupe 6spd (wife's ride)

12-03-2013, 12:36 PM	#406
lolife99 67-72 parts collector,… Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 22,683	Re: 1969 C10 SWB - Big Block project The worst part about a 12" wide wheel is finding a tire that fits. I'm not sure if anyone make a 40 series 335. Here's a 30 series at $551 each! http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....=yes&tab=Specs __________________ Keith Convert to disc brakes. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=444823

12-03-2013, 04:38 PM	#407
Bennett68C10 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Toms River, NJ Posts: 5,518	Re: 1969 C10 SWB - Big Block project Like Keith said trying to find a tire for a 12" wheel is hard. Seems like most people either run a 315/35/20 or step up to the Mickey Thompson SR. Check out hart_rob's 68. I think he is running a 31x16 on a 20x12. I'm pretty sure bowtie468 is running the same. I'm still planning on going with Soky Classics for my bed because they make the custom bedsides with no side markers lights or stake pocket holes. __________________ Keith 66 Suburban Burb Build Thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=751361 IG: bennett68c10

12-03-2013, 04:38 PM	#408
aggie91 I'm just glad to be here! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Longview, TX Posts: 4,788	Re: 1969 C10 SWB - Big Block project Here is a 345/30/20 that will work on a 12" rim...a little less expensive at $485 each... http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....=yes&tab=Specs __________________ Karl 1965 Chevy Stepside(Grandpa's Old Blue) and (July 2015 Shop Build!)(2020, the Saga Continues) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=372424 The LST Challenge: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1#post7812257 Korbin's 1st Square: "Sunburn" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=418618 1985 GMC Sierra: "White Trash", Korbin's 2nd now... http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=632305 Henry - 1984 Chevrolet, Owen's 1st Square

12-03-2013, 11:43 PM	#409
CC69Rat Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Chattanooga TN Posts: 6,205	Re: 1969 C10 SWB - Big Block project .. may just stick with a 20x10.. . I have the early housing so the wheels will 'look' plenty wide. I did some research earlier and I don't see paying $500 a tire. 22x12 ?.. humm. __________________ Chad 1967 C10 SWB - Project Savannah - 6.0/4L80 Currently underway 1968 C10 SWB - TOTY 2018, 50th Anniversary Tribute Project * Sold * Pride and Joy 1986 Silverado Short Fleet - Scarlet Sold 1985 Silverado Short Fleet Sold 2022 Jeep Gladiator Mojave 2001 Jeep Cherokee XJ 4x4 - Lifted, Built 1992 Jeep Cherokee XJ 4x4 - Lifted 2013 Honda Accord EX-L v6 Coupe 6spd (wife's ride)

12-04-2013, 06:23 AM	#410
Bennett68C10 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Toms River, NJ Posts: 5,518	Re: 1969 C10 SWB - Big Block project If you did a 20x12 on a 315/35/20 it wouldn't cost you $500 per tire. You can get the Toyo ST II for around $200. Might not give you the sidewall height you are looking for though. I also discovered yesterday that they no longer make the 31x16x20 Mickey Thompsons any more, only the 31x18x20. __________________ Keith 66 Suburban Burb Build Thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=751361 IG: bennett68c10

12-04-2013, 08:45 AM	#411
CC69Rat Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Chattanooga TN Posts: 6,205	Re: 1969 C10 SWB - Big Block project Just thinking a 315 might be stretched a little on a 12" wheel. I haven't seen one mounted up though. Some people like the stretched look though.. I'll check it out and see. __________________ Chad 1967 C10 SWB - Project Savannah - 6.0/4L80 Currently underway 1968 C10 SWB - TOTY 2018, 50th Anniversary Tribute Project * Sold * Pride and Joy 1986 Silverado Short Fleet - Scarlet Sold 1985 Silverado Short Fleet Sold 2022 Jeep Gladiator Mojave 2001 Jeep Cherokee XJ 4x4 - Lifted, Built 1992 Jeep Cherokee XJ 4x4 - Lifted 2013 Honda Accord EX-L v6 Coupe 6spd (wife's ride)

12-04-2013, 11:13 AM	#412
nlped Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Hayden, Al. Posts: 4,147	Re: 1969 C10 SWB - Big Block project Here's a camaro with a 20x12 forgeline on the rear... Looks mighty sexy to me Attached Images __________________ Carter 1968 Chevy SWB Fleet... Walt 1963-1/2 Ford Falcon Futura...Martha

12-04-2013, 11:48 AM	#413
Bennett68C10 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Toms River, NJ Posts: 5,518	Re: 1969 C10 SWB - Big Block project This is painterd's old truck with 315's on a 20x12, looks pretty good to me. Attached Images __________________ Keith 66 Suburban Burb Build Thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=751361 IG: bennett68c10

12-04-2013, 01:16 PM	#414
CC69Rat Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Chattanooga TN Posts: 6,205	Re: 1969 C10 SWB - Big Block project http://www.summitracing.com/parts/mtt-6620/overview/ Is there a link to one of the trucks running this tire ? Do you have to narrow the frame rails or will it fit just by widening the tubs ? __________________ Chad 1967 C10 SWB - Project Savannah - 6.0/4L80 Currently underway 1968 C10 SWB - TOTY 2018, 50th Anniversary Tribute Project * Sold * Pride and Joy 1986 Silverado Short Fleet - Scarlet Sold 1985 Silverado Short Fleet Sold 2022 Jeep Gladiator Mojave 2001 Jeep Cherokee XJ 4x4 - Lifted, Built 1992 Jeep Cherokee XJ 4x4 - Lifted 2013 Honda Accord EX-L v6 Coupe 6spd (wife's ride)

12-04-2013, 01:17 PM	#415
CC69Rat Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Chattanooga TN Posts: 6,205	Re: 1969 C10 SWB - Big Block project Nm, found the thread. .. __________________ Chad 1967 C10 SWB - Project Savannah - 6.0/4L80 Currently underway 1968 C10 SWB - TOTY 2018, 50th Anniversary Tribute Project * Sold * Pride and Joy 1986 Silverado Short Fleet - Scarlet Sold 1985 Silverado Short Fleet Sold 2022 Jeep Gladiator Mojave 2001 Jeep Cherokee XJ 4x4 - Lifted, Built 1992 Jeep Cherokee XJ 4x4 - Lifted 2013 Honda Accord EX-L v6 Coupe 6spd (wife's ride)



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12-04-2013, 05:54 PM	#416
rwade Registered User Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Louisiana Posts: 970	Re: 1969 C10 SWB - Big Block project I'm running a 14" wide rim with factory frame (with step notch) and they fit. You should have no problem with a 12" Wade

12-06-2013, 05:22 PM	#417
CC69Rat Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Chattanooga TN Posts: 6,205	Re: 1969 C10 SWB - Big Block project Looking a little more at the tires, what are you guys thoughts on running the SRs on the back with STIIs up front ? The tread pattern is pretty close. I know you have seen both tires, but just to see them side by side .. Attached Images __________________ Chad 1967 C10 SWB - Project Savannah - 6.0/4L80 Currently underway 1968 C10 SWB - TOTY 2018, 50th Anniversary Tribute Project * Sold * Pride and Joy 1986 Silverado Short Fleet - Scarlet Sold 1985 Silverado Short Fleet Sold 2022 Jeep Gladiator Mojave 2001 Jeep Cherokee XJ 4x4 - Lifted, Built 1992 Jeep Cherokee XJ 4x4 - Lifted 2013 Honda Accord EX-L v6 Coupe 6spd (wife's ride)

12-06-2013, 05:24 PM	#418
darkhorse970 Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Monroe, LA Posts: 2,103	Re: 1969 C10 SWB - Big Block project I think they would look good together. What sizes are you thinking? __________________ Keith SOLD - 1963 C10 Short Fleet 350/700R4 4/6 drop 1967 GMC Super Custom - Short Fleet COPO concept w/427 BBC T-400 w/Doug Nash overdrive 4/6 Drop, Buddy Buckets, etc... Frame Off (In Progress) I call it "Vulgar Display of Power" 1980 Silverado Original paint 49k Original miles 4/6 drop Check out my build thread here: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1#post6209941

12-06-2013, 05:32 PM	#419
CC69Rat Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Chattanooga TN Posts: 6,205	Re: 1969 C10 SWB - Big Block project 29x16 - 20x12 255/45/20 - 20x8.5 Both tires would be right at 4.5" sidewall height. Maybe drop to a 255/40 on the front I just worry about potholes. (4" sidewall) I had 255/45 on the front of the last one I setup and I liked it. I wish they made a 30x16 in that SR tire. Chris is running 31x16 but the tires were discontinued, Im under the impression those might be a bit big on his truck though. 30x16 would be perfect. I may just go with a 20x10 and STII on the rear. We'll see how it plays out. You guys were right, tires are tough for a 20x12. I'm considering narrowing the rear housing a little I have been working with Chris on his setup. __________________ Chad 1967 C10 SWB - Project Savannah - 6.0/4L80 Currently underway 1968 C10 SWB - TOTY 2018, 50th Anniversary Tribute Project * Sold * Pride and Joy 1986 Silverado Short Fleet - Scarlet Sold 1985 Silverado Short Fleet Sold 2022 Jeep Gladiator Mojave 2001 Jeep Cherokee XJ 4x4 - Lifted, Built 1992 Jeep Cherokee XJ 4x4 - Lifted 2013 Honda Accord EX-L v6 Coupe 6spd (wife's ride)

12-06-2013, 05:35 PM	#420
knomadd Registered User Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Rosenberg, Texas Posts: 3,506	Re: 1969 C10 SWB - Big Block project They look pretty close. I think they'd look pretty good. I like your new avatar. __________________ -Duane C/10 Club Texas member 1971 Chevy C10 "Brutus" SWB Fleetside 2016 6.0L (L96) 6L90E (driver/project) 1965 Pontiac GTO "Royal Goat" 400/TH400 w/AC (my baby)

12-06-2013, 05:45 PM	#421
cericd Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Texan, back in TX Posts: 2,101	Re: 1969 C10 SWB - Big Block project Sweet new avatar. Let me guess.. Pops? He's got some skills. __________________ Chris My 1970 SWB C/10 - https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=534872

12-06-2013, 06:01 PM	#422
darkhorse970 Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Monroe, LA Posts: 2,103	Re: 1969 C10 SWB - Big Block project I'm trying to make the same tire/wheel size decisions, Chris' looks awesome to me. Wish MT still made that size! __________________ Keith SOLD - 1963 C10 Short Fleet 350/700R4 4/6 drop 1967 GMC Super Custom - Short Fleet COPO concept w/427 BBC T-400 w/Doug Nash overdrive 4/6 Drop, Buddy Buckets, etc... Frame Off (In Progress) I call it "Vulgar Display of Power" 1980 Silverado Original paint 49k Original miles 4/6 drop Check out my build thread here: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1#post6209941

12-06-2013, 08:23 PM	#423
Rusbuilt Registered User Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 5,381	Re: 1969 C10 SWB - Big Block project Chad have I missed the actual wheel selection? __________________ -Rus PLEASE HELP WITH PROJECT UNDERHAULINPaypal donations accepted @ rus1785@yahoo.com Rusbuilt's garage 1968 Chevy C-30 Darcy SOLD Rusbuilt shop truck *SOLD*

12-07-2013, 12:17 PM	#425
jkeating1 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Allen, TX Posts: 519	Re: 1969 C10 SWB - Big Block project back in post #91 from a couple of years ago, the last picture has a sheet taped to the passenger door that looks like a build sheet, or checklist of sorts, that I'm guessing is your to-do, or status sheet? If that's what it is, would you please post an example of it. I imagine I could improve my efficiency some if I adopted a better time management process! __________________ JK

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