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lyrikz · 04-26-2008, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by 70rs/ss

But the cops cannot force him to give it up, that is the civil part. I guess the only thing that could change that is if you file a stolen vehicle report (not like he rolled up and stole them, but that he is sitting on them and won't give them back). Man, this sucks, I feel for you guys.

Ooohhh yes they can.. If he proves that its his vehicle with title and registration, and carlos doesnt have proof of a proper estimate, absolutely they will make him release the vehicle.

randomhero472 · 04-26-2008, 05:50 AM

after some communication w/him today via email i'll be heading down to houston tomorrow afternoon to pick up my truck, i was told i have no bill, i owe him nothing and it'll be waiting for me... we'll see what happens, should have an update sunday sometime

**thelonerife** · 04-26-2008, 06:25 AM

Things like this are a shame. But it is one more reason to learn to do bodywork yourself. The knowledge you have gained by this experience should be turned into the drive to DIY. Good Luck w/getting it back.both of you.

Solego · 04-26-2008, 09:48 AM

I'm going to go ahead and chime in being the local resident expert on law enforcement (look at my avatar). Now keep in mind I am a deputy in Florida, so the laws in Texas may be different. Let me also qualify myself as the expert. I've been the pOlice since 2000 and was a street cop for six years before flying around in helicopters. Believe me now?

Okay. Here in Florida, were I to pull up on a scene simliar to this, we would not get involved. This is a civil issue wherein services were rendered and there is a dispute in payment. We could not force a person such as Carlos to give anything up.

We, the pOlice, specifically deal in criminal issues. The route necessary to solve such an issue is the one that Don is taking, through the civil court system.

I would have had to explain the same to Don, and tell him there is literally nothing I could do. Nor would I write a report indicating that his vehicle is stolen, because it isn't.

Most times people have requested a report, which I was always glad to do for them. But, they always expected that my report would render a "judgement" in their favor. I have recieved many a call from people upset that my report only tells the story that was told to me by both parties, and that it specifically stated that the Sheriff's Office would take no involvment in this dispute.

Yes, it's a raw deal, but these situations do not fall under the purview of law enforcement.

*72lb4x4* · 04-26-2008, 10:16 AM

Those are good points showing that you guys aren't really in the judgement business, but more of an info gathering, reporting, catching bad people, and generally trying to keep the loonies (like me) at bay role.

On the other hand, people in your line of work make judgement calls all day, and your presence, along with a stern look may be enough to get the car released. Of course, in the world today, that could get you in trouble I guess.

Solego · 04-27-2008, 12:23 AM

Yes that would very much get me in trouble. That would be coercion and would literally be an abuse of the powers vested in me.

Most judgement calls that I would make would be determining if there is probable cause to believe that a person has, is, or is about to commit a crime.

And, of course, where to eat lunch.

lyrikz · 04-27-2008, 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solego

Yes that would very much get me in trouble. That would be coercion and would literally be an abuse of the powers vested in me.

Most judgement calls that I would make would be determining if there is probable cause to believe that a person has, is, or is about to commit a crime.

And, of course, where to eat lunch.

and where to find the best donuts...........(golfclap)

Keep us updated.

GRIMSS · 04-27-2008, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by lyrikz

and where to find the best donuts...........(golfclap)

Keep us updated.

I was thinking glazed or filled.......

Hope this all works out for everyone.

**FRENCHBLUE72** · 04-27-2008, 11:16 PM

Cool Keep Us Posted Hope All Goes Well.

entourageguy · 04-28-2008, 04:58 AM

Hope it goes well..

randomhero472 · 04-29-2008, 04:34 AM

UPDATE! Went down to houston and picked up the truck, with no problems from either carlos or the shop owner.. The truck is in sad shape however, a lot of rust from sitting outside for a year, some of the primer is flaked off and the windows were left down, but hey i got the truck back, thats all that really matters to me... This thing has some feelings attached to it for me, and i guess having this past year to look at the plans i've decided to go a littler further with the mods and such, so here in the next week or so i'll be starting a new build thread and will be doing 95% of the work myself, somthing i should have done in the first place...
DON, PM ME ASAP, i have some info on your truck, but dont want to post it here first, i tried calling sat morning

**FRENCHBLUE72** · 04-29-2008, 04:37 AM

Glad to see you got ur truck back.. Hope dons is ok...

70C10Step · 04-29-2008, 05:10 AM

Good News!!!!

krue · 04-29-2008, 05:29 AM

**Hart_Rod** · 04-29-2008, 06:23 AM

I might as well be the first to do it,

Glad to hear you got it back. Best of luck on the second go around,

.

mrein3 · 04-29-2008, 08:38 PM

The next person that talks to Carlos should remind him that he stole $50 from me through the US mail.

The sherrif here says it is a Texas problem. The Deer Park police are too busy eating donuts. The attorney general there said they filed my complaint but are too busy seperating women from their children to worry about criminals like Carlos.

I just wonder how Carlos sleeps at night.

LUV2XCLR8 · 04-30-2008, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by 70C10Step

Good News!!!!

tdave00 · 05-03-2008, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by mrein3

The next person that talks to Carlos should remind him that he stole $50 from me through the US mail.

Two words. Mail fraud.

**thelonerife** · 05-08-2008, 05:56 AM

Glad you got it. Glad your doing the work yourself now. It'll help you in the long run.

GRIMSS · 05-08-2008, 06:07 AM

any word on 68 short step's truck?

camaro__thunder · 05-09-2008, 09:52 PM

wow.. I am less than a hour away from dickinson and was going to get Carlos to do some work for me.. He even came to look at my truck and a friends 69 Chevelle to do some work on. We couldnt ever get a time that was good for us both so I could drop my truck off. I need two bedsides welded up, hell I may do it myself.

68 short step · 05-13-2008, 06:05 AM

got the truck back. it looks great, capple restoration did the bodywork/paint and it looks great. (pics in my build thread)
im just happy its back home with me

BACKYARD88 · 05-13-2008, 09:44 PM

Glad you and hero got your rides back Don. Congrats!!

mbgmike · 09-14-2008, 05:03 PM

I normally like to stay out of these things but he has wasted no time after the Hurricane to advertise his business. I just could not resist.

http://houston.craigslist.org/aos/840632844.html

68 short step · 09-14-2008, 08:15 PM

just files a complaint with them...id highly recommend that all who have been screwed by him file a complaint and request for a refund or whatever you want...here is his BBB prfile
http://houston.bbb.org/WWWRoot/Repor...&firm=58002690

04-26-2008, 05:50 AM	#52
randomhero472 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: oklahoma Posts: 516	Re: For All Screwed By 72cstc5 (carlos) after some communication w/him today via email i'll be heading down to houston tomorrow afternoon to pick up my truck, i was told i have no bill, i owe him nothing and it'll be waiting for me... we'll see what happens, should have an update sunday sometime __________________ 67' in the "build" process.. soon to be bagged, big wheels ect, finally got it back home!!

04-26-2008, 06:25 AM	#53
thelonerife Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Clarksville TN 37043 Posts: 8,702	Re: For All Screwed By 72cstc5 (carlos) Things like this are a shame. But it is one more reason to learn to do bodywork yourself. The knowledge you have gained by this experience should be turned into the drive to DIY. Good Luck w/getting it back.both of you. __________________ Chuck 68swb Fleetside build ''Choncho'' http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=374892 My trailer redo http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...69#post5893869 Chuy my 59 bug http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=653798 Putnam 87 GMC Shop truck http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=707687

04-26-2008, 09:48 AM	#54
Solego Dr. Frankentruck's Monster Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Gainesville, FL Posts: 147	Re: For All Screwed By 72cstc5 (carlos) I'm going to go ahead and chime in being the local resident expert on law enforcement (look at my avatar). Now keep in mind I am a deputy in Florida, so the laws in Texas may be different. Let me also qualify myself as the expert. I've been the pOlice since 2000 and was a street cop for six years before flying around in helicopters. Believe me now? Okay. Here in Florida, were I to pull up on a scene simliar to this, we would not get involved. This is a civil issue wherein services were rendered and there is a dispute in payment. We could not force a person such as Carlos to give anything up. We, the pOlice, specifically deal in criminal issues. The route necessary to solve such an issue is the one that Don is taking, through the civil court system. I would have had to explain the same to Don, and tell him there is literally nothing I could do. Nor would I write a report indicating that his vehicle is stolen, because it isn't. Most times people have requested a report, which I was always glad to do for them. But, they always expected that my report would render a "judgement" in their favor. I have recieved many a call from people upset that my report only tells the story that was told to me by both parties, and that it specifically stated that the Sheriff's Office would take no involvment in this dispute. Yes, it's a raw deal, but these situations do not fall under the purview of law enforcement. __________________ I'm not prejudiced, I hate everyone. Project SLOMO http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=430494 Last edited by Solego; 04-26-2008 at 09:48 AM.

04-26-2008, 10:16 AM	#55
72lb4x4 Account Suspended Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: DFW Posts: 1,427	Re: For All Screwed By 72cstc5 (carlos) Those are good points showing that you guys aren't really in the judgement business, but more of an info gathering, reporting, catching bad people, and generally trying to keep the loonies (like me) at bay role. On the other hand, people in your line of work make judgement calls all day, and your presence, along with a stern look may be enough to get the car released. Of course, in the world today, that could get you in trouble I guess. Last edited by 72lb4x4; 04-26-2008 at 10:17 AM.

04-27-2008, 12:23 AM	#56
Solego Dr. Frankentruck's Monster Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Gainesville, FL Posts: 147	Re: For All Screwed By 72cstc5 (carlos) Yes that would very much get me in trouble. That would be coercion and would literally be an abuse of the powers vested in me. Most judgement calls that I would make would be determining if there is probable cause to believe that a person has, is, or is about to commit a crime. And, of course, where to eat lunch. __________________ I'm not prejudiced, I hate everyone. Project SLOMO http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=430494

04-27-2008, 11:16 PM	#59
FRENCHBLUE72 PROJECT 7DEUCE Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: GRANTS PASS OR Posts: 21,590	Re: For All Screwed By 72cstc5 (carlos) Cool Keep Us Posted Hope All Goes Well. __________________ GO BIG GREEN GO DUCKS MEMBER #6377 72 k-5 daily driver 6'' lift 35'' 350-350-205 slowly getting rust free. Project "7DEUCE" check out my build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=267665 Tim Powell..R.I.P EastSideLowlife..... R.I.P..

04-28-2008, 04:58 AM	#60
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04-29-2008, 04:34 AM	#61
randomhero472 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: oklahoma Posts: 516	Re: For All Screwed By 72cstc5 (carlos) UPDATE! Went down to houston and picked up the truck, with no problems from either carlos or the shop owner.. The truck is in sad shape however, a lot of rust from sitting outside for a year, some of the primer is flaked off and the windows were left down, but hey i got the truck back, thats all that really matters to me... This thing has some feelings attached to it for me, and i guess having this past year to look at the plans i've decided to go a littler further with the mods and such, so here in the next week or so i'll be starting a new build thread and will be doing 95% of the work myself, somthing i should have done in the first place... DON, PM ME ASAP, i have some info on your truck, but dont want to post it here first, i tried calling sat morning __________________ 67' in the "build" process.. soon to be bagged, big wheels ect, finally got it back home!!

04-29-2008, 04:37 AM	#62
FRENCHBLUE72 PROJECT 7DEUCE Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: GRANTS PASS OR Posts: 21,590	Re: For All Screwed By 72cstc5 (carlos) Glad to see you got ur truck back.. Hope dons is ok... __________________ GO BIG GREEN GO DUCKS MEMBER #6377 72 k-5 daily driver 6'' lift 35'' 350-350-205 slowly getting rust free. Project "7DEUCE" check out my build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=267665 Tim Powell..R.I.P EastSideLowlife..... R.I.P..

04-29-2008, 05:10 AM	#63
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04-29-2008, 05:29 AM	#64
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04-29-2008, 06:23 AM	#65
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04-29-2008, 08:38 PM	#66
mrein3 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Center City, MN, USA Posts: 3,253	Re: For All Screwed By 72cstc5 (carlos) The next person that talks to Carlos should remind him that he stole $50 from me through the US mail. The sherrif here says it is a Texas problem. The Deer Park police are too busy eating donuts. The attorney general there said they filed my complaint but are too busy seperating women from their children to worry about criminals like Carlos. I just wonder how Carlos sleeps at night. __________________ '70 cab, '71 chassis, 383, TH350, NP205. '71 Malibu convertible '72 Malibu hard top Center City, MN

05-08-2008, 05:56 AM	#69
thelonerife Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Clarksville TN 37043 Posts: 8,702	Re: For All Screwed By 72cstc5 (carlos) Glad you got it. Glad your doing the work yourself now. It'll help you in the long run. __________________ Chuck 68swb Fleetside build ''Choncho'' http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=374892 My trailer redo http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...69#post5893869 Chuy my 59 bug http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=653798 Putnam 87 GMC Shop truck http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=707687

05-08-2008, 06:07 AM	#70
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05-09-2008, 09:52 PM	#71
camaro__thunder Epoxy Primer Friendly Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: South of Houston TEXXXAS Posts: 680	Re: For All Screwed By 72cstc5 (carlos) wow.. I am less than a hour away from dickinson and was going to get Carlos to do some work for me.. He even came to look at my truck and a friends 69 Chevelle to do some work on. We couldnt ever get a time that was good for us both so I could drop my truck off. I need two bedsides welded up, hell I may do it myself. __________________ My Project 69 SWB SHAVED BAGGED DOORED Last edited by camaro__thunder; 05-09-2008 at 09:53 PM.

05-13-2008, 06:05 AM	#72
68 short step Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: tulsa OK Posts: 3,070	Re: For All Screwed By 72cstc5 (carlos) got the truck back. it looks great, capple restoration did the bodywork/paint and it looks great. (pics in my build thread) im just happy its back home with me

05-13-2008, 09:44 PM	#73
BACKYARD88 On the fast track to nowhere.. Join Date: May 2006 Location: Splendora, Texas Posts: 5,316	Re: For All Screwed By 72cstc5 (carlos) Glad you and hero got your rides back Don. Congrats!! __________________ -Mike Owen- Support the board here! 71 Chevy short fleet build thread Double D Norwood, Houston, Cecilia, Jackson, Monroe and counting

09-14-2008, 05:03 PM	#74
mbgmike Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Pasadena,Tx /Pto Pta DR Posts: 5,415	Re: For All Screwed By 72cstc5 (carlos) I normally like to stay out of these things but he has wasted no time after the Hurricane to advertise his business. I just could not resist. http://houston.craigslist.org/aos/840632844.html

09-14-2008, 08:15 PM	#75
68 short step Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: tulsa OK Posts: 3,070	Re: For All Screwed By 72cstc5 (carlos) just files a complaint with them...id highly recommend that all who have been screwed by him file a complaint and request for a refund or whatever you want...here is his BBB prfile http://houston.bbb.org/WWWRoot/Repor...&firm=58002690

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