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**67cheby** · 02-26-2011, 01:21 PM

i am always two steps behind...LOL

**Hart_Rod** · 02-26-2011, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by robnolimit

Just so you know, the stock exhaust manifolds would not fit. So, we got a set of the new Hedman 3/4 length for LS. When I was a kid, Hedman was not so great. But I have too tell you, these are NICE. 3/8" flanges, 16 gauge tubing, and nice collectors. Here's the best part, they fit GREAT!

I can tell we'll be using a lot of these in the future.

Looks nice. Do you have any pictures of how low they hang down?

usmcchevy · 02-27-2011, 11:41 AM

Nice, Have a part number on those headers? Did you make you own motor mounts?

gringoloco · 02-27-2011, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robnolimit

...Look at the rear kick. A bit more than a stocker. 4" more to be exact.

How was the 'Z' done? Looks very clean. How much did you section the front crossmember? Will this be getting the R&P? Nice work

RCbowtie69 · 02-27-2011, 03:57 PM

Nice build,keep pictures coming of the progress,

**robnolimit** · 03-01-2011, 05:35 PM

The headman part # is 45660. They are available plain, or HTP ceramic coated.

**robnolimit** · 03-02-2011, 01:14 PM

Yes, we made the lower motor mounts. I'll put up a layout of the rear Z. This week we installed a Richmond Gear "LockRight" posi. The cost $398. + 23.88 for oil and a new gasket. The install was easy, and we're not gear guys here. We opened it up and followed the directions. No special tools needed. It took about 2 hrs. We put it on the scales. Now for comparison, It's pretty stock, no A/C, iron 4 speed, 350. Total weight is 3796. it lays out like this - LF = 1188, RF = 1106, LR = 755, RR = 747. Front weight is 60.4% It's easy to see that we should move EVERYTHING back, and to the right. This is without the driver, who will only make things worse. Our new (used) Ls, is lighter and farther back, and the headers will help too. The L460 is lighter than the 4 speed, and we have already moved the tank and battery back. THEN< last night we went back to the track. The posi makes it a whole new deal. It used to be a drift out of every corner, now it grips and goes. A bit too much if your used to the drift (can induce a spin, once or twice

) But with only the posi added our times dropped to 54.45 sec. Thats about 1 1/2 sec off our previos best 56.10. And the fun continues......

gringoloco · 03-02-2011, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robnolimit

...A bit too much if your used to the drift (can induce a spin, once or twice

)

More than twice and you're a slow learner

*stich626* · 03-02-2011, 03:38 PM

Ok, todays dumb question, you said you flipped the long arm mounts,
you have before and after photos and what was involved,,
try'n to picture it, but trucks under 3' of snow

SCOTI · 03-02-2011, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stich626

Ok, todays dumb question, you said you flipped the long arm mounts,
you have before and after photos and what was involved,,
try'n to picture it, but trucks under 3' of snow

The front truck arm mounts are flipped 180° where they're riveted to the x-member. It raises the front pivot point of the T/A's approx 3.25" effecting the I/C, pinion angle, & rear axle position within the wheel-wells.

6772owner · 03-02-2011, 07:14 PM

Rob,

Can I get more info the LSD you installed? Did you replace any existing LSD rear diff with this unit or a standard open diff carrier? Does this require you to "set-up" the R+P to install?

Thanks

**robnolimit** · 03-03-2011, 03:55 AM

For the LSD lockright, we started with an open diff. Once opened, it looked pretty good, no gear damage. We simply marked the rings and dissassembled. Once the locker was in place, we installed into the same ring position, and then checked the backlash, and gear track. It was OK, so no other set up was needed. The instructions were good, and coming from a guy who is a bit shy of the gear - tranny thing, I thought it was pretty easy. (yes, I see the joke in there)

6772owner · 03-03-2011, 10:09 AM

Ok thanks for the info, I guess I will have to contact them and see if this will replace the factory limited slip unit...

BossHogg69 · 03-03-2011, 10:27 AM

Any chance we could see some more pics of how/where you welded in the front crossmember?

**robnolimit** · 03-05-2011, 05:42 PM

I'll get some more chassis picts. Yesterday we fired the LS in the new chassis, and it fired right up. Then, we noticed the oil pressure, or lack of it. Mike pulled the filter, and fired it, and it seemed to move a bunch of oil. While he was working on that, I finished up the front 1/2 of the exhaust, back to the mufflers, and we fired it again. Shut it off. No oil pressure. Mike pulled the front off, and managed to get the pump out without pulling the pan. The timing chain was loose, so we changed both. $218.00 later, and 3 hrs, fired it up again. Great, 40 lbs at idle, and 70 lbs above 2000 rpm. And, no lifter noise. I worked a bit more on exhaust and then called it quits. Joe is comin alive. I'll get some picts up mon.

**67cheby** · 03-05-2011, 06:10 PM

cant wait till monday !!

**robnolimit** · 03-08-2011, 12:50 PM

Her I am doing some exhaust work. 2 1/2" tube and magnaflow mufflers. I'm going through the chassis, and over the axle.

**robnolimit** · 03-08-2011, 01:06 PM

OK, here's a secret mod. for the JT. Caster makes you Faster, but with stock parts, 2 or 3 deg. is all you can get. From Speedway motors, i bought 2 lower ball joint sleeves, pt. # 910-34818, and 2 new lower ball joints, pt. # 917-20038. Total cost with shipping was $68.28. Using a BFH and a piece of tubing, I smacked the ball joints out. It's the JT, so, no high tech tools on the project. Using a square and clamps, I set up the arms on a drill press to cut a new hole. The new hole, cut with a 2 1/4" hole saw, is 1/4" farther out, and 1" forward, of the original ball joint hole. Then I welded in the new sockets and added a filler piece. I had to do a bit of shaping on the leading edge and weld that cut up too. The whole project took 2 hrs. No sand blasting or powder coat, it all rattle can and wire brushes for the JT. On our test stand, the simple mod delivers and easy 1 deg. - camber and 8 deg. + caster, with 1/8" shim at each uper bolt.

**robnolimit** · 03-08-2011, 01:08 PM

More A-arm mod picts

**robnolimit** · 03-08-2011, 01:10 PM

I know it's not real pretty, but it's all function. The bushings and shafts are good, so no new parts there. from here we panted, and installed like stock.

suville · 03-08-2011, 01:38 PM

Rob, is that new ball joint a standard GM replacement ball joint or specific to the sleeve only? Reason for the question is I already have new ball joints so would be nice to be able to use them. Also is it possible to elaborate on your method for measuring for the new hole? Thanks for your time and contribution on this subject.

**lolife99** · 03-08-2011, 03:13 PM

That's a cool mod.
I dont think it would work with most 15" wheels, and drop spindles,... but JT has the Irocs, so it won't matter.

**robnolimit** · 03-08-2011, 04:21 PM

The balljoint is a stock 73-87 part #, which fits 71-72 spindles as well. I'd bet your right on the 15" with drop spindles - problem, 17" w/DS would clear OK.

**robnolimit** · 03-10-2011, 11:32 AM

Well it's time. We parked the old JT next to the straight frame and cab. With the 5.3 running and plummed, it's time to swap over. We started with diss-assembly, and the transfer of the front spindles/brakes, the rear axle, and now the booster/master. Next we will start to plumb the brake lines. Waiting on an Ididit tilt column, and thier new push-button ignition.

**67cheby** · 03-10-2011, 11:33 AM

how can we believe any of this ........WITHOUT PICTURES !!!!

02-26-2011, 01:21 PM	#201
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02-27-2011, 11:41 AM	#203
usmcchevy Has more rust than truck... Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Ivanhoe, MN Posts: 2,421	Re: No Limit '72 C-10 Nice, Have a part number on those headers? Did you make you own motor mounts? __________________ 1972 Custom/10 SWB, 4.8/4l80e Build thread LSx Swap FAQ index

02-27-2011, 03:57 PM	#205
RCbowtie69 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Thomasville, NC Posts: 1,877	Re: No Limit '72 C-10 Nice build,keep pictures coming of the progress,

03-01-2011, 05:35 PM	#206
robnolimit Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Dandridge, Tn. USA Posts: 2,226	Re: No Limit '72 C-10 The headman part # is 45660. They are available plain, or HTP ceramic coated. __________________ GoodGuys 2012 Pro-Truck Champion 2012 Truckin' Throwdown Champion GoodGuys 2011 National Champion 2011 Truckin' Throwdown Champion GoodGuys 2010 National Champion Proud to put our products up against all others!

03-02-2011, 01:14 PM	#207
robnolimit Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Dandridge, Tn. USA Posts: 2,226	Re: No Limit '72 C-10 Yes, we made the lower motor mounts. I'll put up a layout of the rear Z. This week we installed a Richmond Gear "LockRight" posi. The cost $398. + 23.88 for oil and a new gasket. The install was easy, and we're not gear guys here. We opened it up and followed the directions. No special tools needed. It took about 2 hrs. We put it on the scales. Now for comparison, It's pretty stock, no A/C, iron 4 speed, 350. Total weight is 3796. it lays out like this - LF = 1188, RF = 1106, LR = 755, RR = 747. Front weight is 60.4% It's easy to see that we should move EVERYTHING back, and to the right. This is without the driver, who will only make things worse. Our new (used) Ls, is lighter and farther back, and the headers will help too. The L460 is lighter than the 4 speed, and we have already moved the tank and battery back. THEN< last night we went back to the track. The posi makes it a whole new deal. It used to be a drift out of every corner, now it grips and goes. A bit too much if your used to the drift (can induce a spin, once or twice ) But with only the posi added our times dropped to 54.45 sec. Thats about 1 1/2 sec off our previos best 56.10. And the fun continues...... __________________ GoodGuys 2012 Pro-Truck Champion 2012 Truckin' Throwdown Champion GoodGuys 2011 National Champion 2011 Truckin' Throwdown Champion GoodGuys 2010 National Champion Proud to put our products up against all others! Last edited by robnolimit; 03-02-2011 at 01:15 PM.

03-02-2011, 03:38 PM	#209
stich626 Account Suspended Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: hingham ma Posts: 1,721	Re: No Limit '72 C-10 Ok, todays dumb question, you said you flipped the long arm mounts, you have before and after photos and what was involved,, try'n to picture it, but trucks under 3' of snow

03-02-2011, 07:14 PM	#211
6772owner Gearhead Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,193	Re: No Limit '72 C-10 Rob, Can I get more info the LSD you installed? Did you replace any existing LSD rear diff with this unit or a standard open diff carrier? Does this require you to "set-up" the R+P to install? Thanks __________________ 2002 Saturn SL2, My D/D 2019 Ford Fusion SE, Ecoboost - Wife's D/D 1993 Camaro Z28, A4, CAI, Cat-Back Exhaust Project C10 (my 72' C10 w/96' LT1, 700R4, bagged F&R, 18's (for now), Short/Fleet) -- SOLD! Build Thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=313644

03-03-2011, 03:55 AM	#212
robnolimit Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Dandridge, Tn. USA Posts: 2,226	Re: No Limit '72 C-10 For the LSD lockright, we started with an open diff. Once opened, it looked pretty good, no gear damage. We simply marked the rings and dissassembled. Once the locker was in place, we installed into the same ring position, and then checked the backlash, and gear track. It was OK, so no other set up was needed. The instructions were good, and coming from a guy who is a bit shy of the gear - tranny thing, I thought it was pretty easy. (yes, I see the joke in there) __________________ GoodGuys 2012 Pro-Truck Champion 2012 Truckin' Throwdown Champion GoodGuys 2011 National Champion 2011 Truckin' Throwdown Champion GoodGuys 2010 National Champion Proud to put our products up against all others!

03-03-2011, 10:09 AM	#213
6772owner Gearhead Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,193	Re: No Limit '72 C-10 Ok thanks for the info, I guess I will have to contact them and see if this will replace the factory limited slip unit... __________________ 2002 Saturn SL2, My D/D 2019 Ford Fusion SE, Ecoboost - Wife's D/D 1993 Camaro Z28, A4, CAI, Cat-Back Exhaust Project C10 (my 72' C10 w/96' LT1, 700R4, bagged F&R, 18's (for now), Short/Fleet) -- SOLD! Build Thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=313644

03-03-2011, 10:27 AM	#214
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03-05-2011, 05:42 PM	#215
robnolimit Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Dandridge, Tn. USA Posts: 2,226	Re: No Limit '72 C-10 I'll get some more chassis picts. Yesterday we fired the LS in the new chassis, and it fired right up. Then, we noticed the oil pressure, or lack of it. Mike pulled the filter, and fired it, and it seemed to move a bunch of oil. While he was working on that, I finished up the front 1/2 of the exhaust, back to the mufflers, and we fired it again. Shut it off. No oil pressure. Mike pulled the front off, and managed to get the pump out without pulling the pan. The timing chain was loose, so we changed both. $218.00 later, and 3 hrs, fired it up again. Great, 40 lbs at idle, and 70 lbs above 2000 rpm. And, no lifter noise. I worked a bit more on exhaust and then called it quits. Joe is comin alive. I'll get some picts up mon. __________________ GoodGuys 2012 Pro-Truck Champion 2012 Truckin' Throwdown Champion GoodGuys 2011 National Champion 2011 Truckin' Throwdown Champion GoodGuys 2010 National Champion Proud to put our products up against all others!

03-05-2011, 06:10 PM	#216
67cheby 67cheby Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: siloam springs ar 72761 Posts: 17,890	Re: No Limit '72 C-10 cant wait till monday !! __________________ Check out Slosh Tubz, bolt-in inner fenders for frame laying C-10's Slosh Tubz Introductory Price $559 67 Cheby's Dropmember Build Thread Slosh Tubz on Facebook http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=554172

03-08-2011, 12:50 PM	#217
robnolimit Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Dandridge, Tn. USA Posts: 2,226	Re: No Limit '72 C-10 Her I am doing some exhaust work. 2 1/2" tube and magnaflow mufflers. I'm going through the chassis, and over the axle. Attached Images __________________ GoodGuys 2012 Pro-Truck Champion 2012 Truckin' Throwdown Champion GoodGuys 2011 National Champion 2011 Truckin' Throwdown Champion GoodGuys 2010 National Champion Proud to put our products up against all others!

03-08-2011, 01:06 PM	#218
robnolimit Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Dandridge, Tn. USA Posts: 2,226	Re: No Limit '72 C-10 OK, here's a secret mod. for the JT. Caster makes you Faster, but with stock parts, 2 or 3 deg. is all you can get. From Speedway motors, i bought 2 lower ball joint sleeves, pt. # 910-34818, and 2 new lower ball joints, pt. # 917-20038. Total cost with shipping was $68.28. Using a BFH and a piece of tubing, I smacked the ball joints out. It's the JT, so, no high tech tools on the project. Using a square and clamps, I set up the arms on a drill press to cut a new hole. The new hole, cut with a 2 1/4" hole saw, is 1/4" farther out, and 1" forward, of the original ball joint hole. Then I welded in the new sockets and added a filler piece. I had to do a bit of shaping on the leading edge and weld that cut up too. The whole project took 2 hrs. No sand blasting or powder coat, it all rattle can and wire brushes for the JT. On our test stand, the simple mod delivers and easy 1 deg. - camber and 8 deg. + caster, with 1/8" shim at each uper bolt. Attached Images __________________ GoodGuys 2012 Pro-Truck Champion 2012 Truckin' Throwdown Champion GoodGuys 2011 National Champion 2011 Truckin' Throwdown Champion GoodGuys 2010 National Champion Proud to put our products up against all others!

03-08-2011, 01:08 PM	#219
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03-08-2011, 01:10 PM	#220
robnolimit Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Dandridge, Tn. USA Posts: 2,226	Re: No Limit '72 C-10 I know it's not real pretty, but it's all function. The bushings and shafts are good, so no new parts there. from here we panted, and installed like stock. __________________ GoodGuys 2012 Pro-Truck Champion 2012 Truckin' Throwdown Champion GoodGuys 2011 National Champion 2011 Truckin' Throwdown Champion GoodGuys 2010 National Champion Proud to put our products up against all others!

03-08-2011, 01:38 PM	#221
suville Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Mtn. Home, Idaho Posts: 906	Re: No Limit '72 C-10 Rob, is that new ball joint a standard GM replacement ball joint or specific to the sleeve only? Reason for the question is I already have new ball joints so would be nice to be able to use them. Also is it possible to elaborate on your method for measuring for the new hole? Thanks for your time and contribution on this subject.

03-08-2011, 03:13 PM	#222
lolife99 67-72 parts collector,… Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 22,683	Re: No Limit '72 C-10 That's a cool mod. I dont think it would work with most 15" wheels, and drop spindles,... but JT has the Irocs, so it won't matter. __________________ Keith Convert to disc brakes. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=444823

03-08-2011, 04:21 PM	#223
robnolimit Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Dandridge, Tn. USA Posts: 2,226	Re: No Limit '72 C-10 The balljoint is a stock 73-87 part #, which fits 71-72 spindles as well. I'd bet your right on the 15" with drop spindles - problem, 17" w/DS would clear OK. __________________ GoodGuys 2012 Pro-Truck Champion 2012 Truckin' Throwdown Champion GoodGuys 2011 National Champion 2011 Truckin' Throwdown Champion GoodGuys 2010 National Champion Proud to put our products up against all others!

03-10-2011, 11:32 AM	#224
robnolimit Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Dandridge, Tn. USA Posts: 2,226	Re: No Limit '72 C-10 Well it's time. We parked the old JT next to the straight frame and cab. With the 5.3 running and plummed, it's time to swap over. We started with diss-assembly, and the transfer of the front spindles/brakes, the rear axle, and now the booster/master. Next we will start to plumb the brake lines. Waiting on an Ididit tilt column, and thier new push-button ignition. __________________ GoodGuys 2012 Pro-Truck Champion 2012 Truckin' Throwdown Champion GoodGuys 2011 National Champion 2011 Truckin' Throwdown Champion GoodGuys 2010 National Champion Proud to put our products up against all others!

03-10-2011, 11:33 AM	#225
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